Breezy Point Jr Gold B Tournament

Discussion of Jr Gold (HS Aged Teams Sanctioned by USA Hockey)

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Who's gonna take the ship?

IGH
5
21%
Burnsville
0
No votes
Northwest Stars
3
13%
WBL (color?)
3
13%
Albert Lea
1
4%
Elk River
0
No votes
Hastings Blue
1
4%
Wayzata
10
42%
Stillwater
1
4%
 
Total votes: 24

RS6
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Strange but correct seedings

Post by RS6 »

The championship bracket seedings seemed a little strange, but here is how it worked:

Three teams were tied on game points (IGH, Hastings and Stillwater). Those teams had +/- spreads of (2,4,5). Since there were three teams tied, you can't apply the head-to-head tiebreaker so they went to the next one which was goal differential and Stillwater got in.

If you argue that you should apply head-to-head first, then Stillwater gets bumped out and there is a two way tie. Hastings wins that tie breaker so there is no way IGH would have made it.

Even though it's goofy, I think they applied the seeding criteria correctly. Besides, there was a ton of great hockey. IGH, Stillwater, Wayzata and Pequot Lakes were all really competitive and great players.

I think they need to limit the goal differential for any one game to a max of 5 points regardless of the score, otherwise there is incentive to run up the score on a weaker team to get a higher seed. Kind of flys in the face of the fair play concept!

Great tournament to all that participated!
freighttrain
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Joined: Sat Mar 15, 2003 9:55 pm

Re: Strange but correct seedings

Post by freighttrain »

RS6 wrote:The championship bracket seedings seemed a little strange, but here is how it worked:

Three teams were tied on game points (IGH, Hastings and Stillwater). Those teams had +/- spreads of (2,4,5). Since there were three teams tied, you can't apply the head-to-head tiebreaker so they went to the next one which was goal differential and Stillwater got in.

If you argue that you should apply head-to-head first, then Stillwater gets bumped out and there is a two way tie. Hastings wins that tie breaker so there is no way IGH would have made it.

Even though it's goofy, I think they applied the seeding criteria correctly. Besides, there was a ton of great hockey. IGH, Stillwater, Wayzata and Pequot Lakes were all really competitive and great players.

I think they need to limit the goal differential for any one game to a max of 5 points regardless of the score, otherwise there is incentive to run up the score on a weaker team to get a higher seed. Kind of flys in the face of the fair play concept!

Great tournament to all that participated!

How it was seeded was correct. My reasoning for saying the tourney was a mess was for the person running it not to think the teams playing in the later afternoon games on Friday would not end up in the 5-8 seeds.

We played at 3:30 on Friday and because of the outcome and the seeding process we should have played at 6:30 but due to a mandatory 3 hour rest we couldn't play until at the earliest 8:00 pm. So they had to flip game times around. Teams really didnt know when they would play until the end of our game.
Plankton
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Post by Plankton »

yeah we played our 2nd game at 2 and then had to play our semifinal game at 6 o'clock we all thought it was at 9 40 but whatever
junior gold dangler 10
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Post by junior gold dangler 10 »

ya tht tourney was a little messd up cause wayzata played 2 games in like 3 hourse WHAT is up with that and was pequot lakes or however u speel that PLEASE BAN ME a jv team??? then WHAT r they doin in jgb?
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