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HockeyDad2016
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Post by HockeyDad2016 »

I know it's only Squirts - but is there an offical ranking for Squirts?

This list looks like the "METRO" top 15
thunderwolf
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Post by thunderwolf »

HockeyGuy12345 wrote:
keep skating wrote:I saw alot of squirt games this weekend and would have to form a new Metro top 10.

1. Edina Green
2. Rosemount
3. Eden Praire
4. Wayzata
5. Stillwater
6. White Bear
7. Chaska
8. STMA
9. Elk River
10. Roseville

Just my two cents on what I have saw so far
1. Edina
2. Wayzata
3. Eden Prairie
4. Rosemount
5. Stillwater
6. Chaska
7. STMA
8. Roseville
9. Elk River
10. WBL
11. Minnetonka
12. SLP
13. Osseo/MG
14. Farmington
15. Burnsville

I noticed most of those teams are in the Fargo tourney in Feb. I'm looking forward to seeing them in action. I don't expect our Thunder Bay teams to match up well with the top teams based on prior year's results but look forward to seeing the top teams play.
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Post by gilmour »

Osseo/Maple Grove 3 - Wayzata 3
observer
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Post by observer »

Is SLP Spring Lake Park or St. Louis Park (Minneapolis-Park)
puckfan
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Post by puckfan »

Spring Lake Park
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Post by muckandgrind »

observer wrote:Is SLP Spring Lake Park or St. Louis Park (Minneapolis-Park)
My guess is Spring Lake Park. They are pretty solid.
Messier
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Post by Messier »

Has anyone seen the EP Eagles play this year yet and how did they do in their first tournament of the year? I see people have them in the top 5 or 3.
hockey talkie
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Post by hockey talkie »

Looks like some of the rankings need adjusting after Roseville wins North St. Paul tourny knocking off Wayzata. Congrats to Roseville!
bleedingblue
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Post by bleedingblue »

Messier wrote:Has anyone seen the EP Eagles play this year yet and how did they do in their first tournament of the year? I see people have them in the top 5 or 3.
EP has a good team but not great, like mosy squirt A teams this year. i haven't seen anything like that Edina team from last year yet. EP lost to Minnetonka 4-3 but beat B-Ville 3-0.
HockeyStorm
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Cloquet

Post by HockeyStorm »

The Cloquet Squirt A team is VERY good this year, I would like their chances against anyone in the state.
hockey talkie
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Post by hockey talkie »

Cloquet didn't fare very well in the North Metro Tournament. How have they done in other tournaments this year? They do have some great players.
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Post by goinbardown »

I watched Edina Green play Eden Prairie today and I now have seen at least one game of most teams listed and my rankings go as followed:

1. Edina Green
2. Rosemount
3. Farmington
4. Roseville
5. Eden Prairie
6. STMA
7. Wayzata
8. Mankato
9. Minnetonka
10. Osseo/ Maple Grove

Will know tons more after Bloomington as for Wayzata, Fire, Edina, Rosemount will all have a shot to beat around on each other.
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Post by muckandgrind »

goinbardown wrote:I watched Edina Green play Eden Prairie today and I now have seen at least one game of most teams listed and my rankings go as followed:

1. Edina Green
2. Rosemount
3. Farmington
4. Roseville
5. Eden Prairie
6. STMA
7. Wayzata
8. Mankato
9. Minnetonka
10. Osseo/ Maple Grove

Will know tons more after Bloomington as for Wayzata, Fire, Edina, Rosemount will all have a shot to beat around on each other.
How can this list not have Spring Lake Park on it? Didn't they beat up on both Apple Valley AND OMG in the Super Rink Spectacular and win the New Richmond tourney to boot?
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Post by imaloserbaby »

muckandgrind wrote:
goinbardown wrote:I watched Edina Green play Eden Prairie today and I now have seen at least one game of most teams listed and my rankings go as followed:

1. Edina Green
2. Rosemount
3. Farmington
4. Roseville
5. Eden Prairie
6. STMA
7. Wayzata
8. Mankato
9. Minnetonka
10. Osseo/ Maple Grove

Will know tons more after Bloomington as for Wayzata, Fire, Edina, Rosemount will all have a shot to beat around on each other.
How can this list not have Spring Lake Park on it? Didn't they beat up on both Apple Valley AND OMG in the Super Rink Spectacular and win the New Richmond tourney to boot?
SLP is 2-3-0 in their District. Can't be considered a top 10 team when you having losing record in Districts unless your District is loaded which SLP's is not.
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Post by iwearmysunglassesatnight »

How can this list not have Spring Lake Park on it? Didn't they beat up on both Apple Valley AND OMG in the Super Rink Spectacular and win the New Richmond tourney to boot?[/quote]

S.L.P.? seriously looking for props on this team? Listing a Valley team they beat by 1 goal is not going to cut it.. Valley has been a whipping boy for most every team they have played. Some beating them by 10 or more.
Was a duster and paying for it?????
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Post by DMom »

goinbardown wrote:I watched Edina Green play Eden Prairie today and I now have seen at least one game of most teams listed and my rankings go as followed:

1. Edina Green
2. Rosemount
3. Farmington
4. Roseville
5. Eden Prairie
6. STMA
7. Wayzata
8. Mankato
9. Minnetonka
10. Osseo/ Maple Grove

Will know tons more after Bloomington as for Wayzata, Fire, Edina, Rosemount will all have a shot to beat around on each other.
The future isn't looking great for Hill Murray. It's one heckuva commute from any of these towns to the Eastside. The notable exception is Roseville, and that town the kids usually stay.
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Post by muckandgrind »

DMom wrote:
goinbardown wrote:I watched Edina Green play Eden Prairie today and I now have seen at least one game of most teams listed and my rankings go as followed:

1. Edina Green
2. Rosemount
3. Farmington
4. Roseville
5. Eden Prairie
6. STMA
7. Wayzata
8. Mankato
9. Minnetonka
10. Osseo/ Maple Grove

Will know tons more after Bloomington as for Wayzata, Fire, Edina, Rosemount will all have a shot to beat around on each other.
The future isn't looking great for Hill Murray. It's one heckuva commute from any of these towns to the Eastside. The notable exception is Roseville, and that town the kids usually stay.
I think Hill-Murray will be just fine. There is still plenty of talent on the East Side (WBL, MV, Woodbury, Stillwater, etc.), enough anways to keep Hill a power at the HS level.
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Post by 2pipesnin »

To puckfan, watchdog jolt, and anyone else willing to listen. I know I joined this late but the problem with your competition/ranking attitude is that it’s between the parents more then it is between the teams/players. When we competed as kids playing baseball, street hockey, monopoly, kick the can, or anything. I was between us as kids not parents. In baseball we kept score by making numbers in the dirt. Now the parents have organized everything, created scoreboards so THEY (the parents) can keep score and give little Johnny or Bobby a metal or a big trophy so they can say Look What “My Kid” Won. That is the motivation for YOUR rankings at the squirt level. You could play every squirt game and not put up the score and every parent and player in the arena, or ball diamond would know score. Which is fine, but the rankings are only for the parents not the players. The players are to young and really don’t care. They want to play the game and play hard to win each game, which is good. Did your parents rank you and your team sports when you were playing? Probably not, because it is not a big deal. You and your teammates were playing because you wanted to play sports. Of course you play to win. But the rewards were for the players satisfaction “Not For Parent Bragging Rights!
Leave the rankings to the "Let's Play Hockey" magazine. Oh they do not rank squirts! There is probably a good reason why they don't. It is not necessary at that level. Unless you are an over zealous parent or never played hockey or even sports for that matter.
Think about it!
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huh?

Post by O-townClown »

2pipesnin wrote: Leave the rankings to the "Let's Play Hockey" magazine. Oh they do not rank squirts! There is probably a good reason why they don't. It is not necessary at that level. Unless you are an over zealous parent or never played hockey or even sports for that matter.
Think about it!
LPH doesn't, but myhockeyrankings.com does. So does that make them wrong?
Be kind. Rewind.
puckfan
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Post by puckfan »

Leave the rankings to the "Let's Play Hockey" magazine. Oh they do not rank squirts! There is probably a good reason why they don't. It is not necessary at that level.
Thanks for analyzing "our" motivations Dr. Phil. I love people that know best for everyone!

All knowing 2pipesnin, please let us know what major factor makes ranking Peewee's ok, shouldn't they hold off till High School?


Unless you are an over zealous parent or never played hockey or even sports for that matter.

This is an all time classic statement and should be used over and over :oops:
hillbilly1
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Post by hillbilly1 »

2pipes you are right to an extent, these rankings are for the adults and purely for debate, discussions and fun.
You may also be right in that, the rankings won't have any impact on how these teams (kids) play there next game but to think that they are not interested as to were they stack up against other teams in this mythical ranking is wrong. Most kids at this level play for fun but also to win. That's one of the reasons the kids love the tournaments because in a weekend they get a shot at being crowned the champion. There won't be any champion crowned at the end of this season but it will be fun debating it. I for one enjoy seeing the rankings, I don't agree with them all but they are a good indicator of what teams to watch out for.
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Post by 2pipesnin »

Thank you Hillbilly1. You were intelligent to understand my point. Winning is fun at the young ages. Squirts will continue to compete and work hard win or lose. Just need to keep the parents like "puck fan" at home in front of the TV were they belong.

The PeeWee's need to be ranked for the final seating in the State tournament.

Are we good now!
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Post by JoltDelivered »

You know, all this fun banter has rekindled a beef I had in my mind for quite some time. My beef is this: Why do we baby youth hockey players? Why do we treat them like little precious flowers that need to be coddled, snuggled and protected? Is it because they are children? Or is there something else at play?

If you think it's because they are children and need to be protected from the evil youth sports people out there, think of it this way:

When I look at other sports where the same atheltes compete, you know what I see? I see National Pop Warner Super Bowl Football tournaments, National Little League Baseball tournaments, INTERNATIONAL soccer tournaments and heck, I have a buddy who's 10 year-old daughter flies all over the freakin' country to compete in national dance competitons. By the way, you think your hockey bill is expensive? WHOOAAAA, try dance.

My point being is kids can and do handle competition at very high levels at very young ages. But for some reason when it comes to the sport of hockey, we're afraid to let them out of the back yard rink until their 16.

Are we all just afraid of the stigma out there that hockey parents and coaches are nut jobs? So we go to the other extreme to prove to our hockey brethern that we're "not that guy"? So in return we advocate 10 game season for mites and no state tournaments for squirts, etc...

One final note. I find it comical for people to advocate no state or natioanl tournaments for the squirt-age hockey kids because, well, they're just too little and don't care about that stuff, but have no problem sending their 10-year-old to the Brick the next summer.

Just my 2 cents.

P.S. Pipe, you sound angry...
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Post by 2pipesnin »

Jolt, I am not angry. This is all very comical for me. My two boy's, my wife and I have been through this years ago. And I understand your point. Individual sports (golf, gymnastics, dance, etc) expenditure wise nut's compared to hockey. And some my argue that. It is up to each individual family how much money they want to spend on a child (6-14 years old) Will the hard work and experiences make them a better person? Not sure! Most will probably benefit. Could those same principles be taught at home? Probably.
The problem is that families sacrifice so much for sports in order to keep up with the Jones that we lose sight of why we have kids in sports. The organization of sports for kids started out so more kids could participate and adults could help teach the different sports by becoming coaches to the kids. Then more organizing took place to conduct leagues and tournaments and then money started being made so more tournaments were organized then camps were developed more money was made and so on and so on.
Sports are becoming only available for those who have money or their child is an elite athlete at a young age. That leaves a lot of kids that would like to participate in the crowd and that's not good.
And if you do not think that parents put pressure on young athletes because of the expenses and time they are putting out....you are kidding yourself. My 2 cents.
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Post by 2pipesnin »

Jolt I started to ramble and did not respond to part of your post that referred to the limitation to games. I believe MN Hockey is trying to keep a handle on length of season and expenses at the younger levels.
If you want top competition and get Johnny out of the back yard rink, you are familiar with the AAA teams. They will take you as far as you want to travel (US and Canada) and play as many games as you want to pay for and play for a national tournament if you qualify.
That is why youth hockey and grade school baseball has always been just a warmup for the real competition that starts in the summer (AAA hockey and travel baseball)
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