USAH to change registration dates.
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USAH to change registration dates.
USAH will vote teh weekend of Jan 17 to change the registratin dates to May 1 through April 30.
MN Hockey delegates are taking input on the subject now.
If you have an opinion emamil Mike Snee, Dennis Green or any ofhte other 3 or4 delegates.
MN Hockey delegates are taking input on the subject now.
If you have an opinion emamil Mike Snee, Dennis Green or any ofhte other 3 or4 delegates.
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I don't think so.
Isn't the season actually Sept. 1 through Aug. 31?puckfan wrote:Is that a change to the current July 1st to June 30th date?
I guess the difference would be that some "summer hockey" would fall into "next year" instead of being the end of "this season".
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http://www.usahockey.com/uploadedFiles/ ... 20memo.pdf
Here is a link to the proposal. Its doesn't look like any change to the birthdate guidelines.
Here is a link to the proposal. Its doesn't look like any change to the birthdate guidelines.
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I'm a little confused on the season vs. registration date thing myself, since this year some games were played in late August, just a few days before the September 1st cut. (Probably not in Minnesota where the season starts later.)puckfan wrote:Not the season dates, the registration dates.
Currently the cut off for mite/squirts squirts/peewee's etc is July 1st in MN
My understanding is that players and coaches register from September 1st through August 31st. My participant's card reads Good through: 8-31-2009.
I don't see what registration dates would have to do with Minnesota's cutoff of July 1st or USA Hockey's calendar year cut.
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Currently spring and summer hockey is a continuation of the 'normal' (your definition may vary) season. It would make summer hockey a 'prequel' to the season. The logic is that it doesn't make sense for 'season' games to be played in August when there is a September 1st cut, as was the case this year. (Labor Day fell early.)TerryMoore wrote:Using a May 1 cut off date strikes me as arbitrary. It does not tie to school grades, like July 1 does . It does not tie to the calender year. It does not tie to the draft day cutoff, which is September.
What is the logic behind making such a change?
Your first paragraph seems to be talking about player ages, which has little or nothing to do with registration periods.
My question is this: Since the 'next' (whenever this becomes live) season is just 8 or 9 months, will I have to pay the same $38 ($30 U.S. and $8 SAHOF)? I think I should get a break.
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USA Hockey running out of money this summer and need an infusion of cash?
Wouldn't this cause an undo headache for local associations who normally collect the USA Hockey fee during fall registration? Now you need to figure out who paid and who didn't in the spring also summer camps that require a USA Hockey card are going to be in charge of collecting that money, not 1 single orginization. Cripes we have enough trouble having people find birth certificates I can only imagine them trying to find a tiny hockey card
Wouldn't this cause an undo headache for local associations who normally collect the USA Hockey fee during fall registration? Now you need to figure out who paid and who didn't in the spring also summer camps that require a USA Hockey card are going to be in charge of collecting that money, not 1 single orginization. Cripes we have enough trouble having people find birth certificates I can only imagine them trying to find a tiny hockey card

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I think this has nothing to do with Minnesota and everything to do with the rest of the country and AAA-AA hockey.
It's relatively known factor that MANY AAA programs have tryouts the second week of April for the following year. (the week after Nationals)
These teams are at a 90% solution for rosters, usually carrying another 10 kids at guest skaters through the summer season, to determine their fit for a roster spot. Some of these teams play a tournament in May, one in June, July, August, etc..There are teams that have played 30 tournament games together by the time the 1st of Sep rolls around.
Tier 2 programs usually have tryouts wrapped up in late July so they can get a month of ice in August, play an August tourney and early Sep before their season really starts rolling. I have friends back in DC that have said the Tier 2 tryouts at some programs are getting scheduled this year the same days as the AAA tryouts, forcing kids to make a decision right up front.
Using this as a logical pathway, it would seem USA Hockey has adjusted to what's happening.
It's relatively known factor that MANY AAA programs have tryouts the second week of April for the following year. (the week after Nationals)
These teams are at a 90% solution for rosters, usually carrying another 10 kids at guest skaters through the summer season, to determine their fit for a roster spot. Some of these teams play a tournament in May, one in June, July, August, etc..There are teams that have played 30 tournament games together by the time the 1st of Sep rolls around.
Tier 2 programs usually have tryouts wrapped up in late July so they can get a month of ice in August, play an August tourney and early Sep before their season really starts rolling. I have friends back in DC that have said the Tier 2 tryouts at some programs are getting scheduled this year the same days as the AAA tryouts, forcing kids to make a decision right up front.
Using this as a logical pathway, it would seem USA Hockey has adjusted to what's happening.
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Sorry, IMHO this is silly. The number of net/new people/kids/camps using this May 1 reg. would be VERY low as opposed to players coming off a season that would already be registered. And to someone's point, now a 3rd party organization running the camp will be responsible for registering the new kid vs the home association? This sounds like a mess for a minimal net gain.
Everything for the overwhelming large percentage of membership starts around that September timeframe. The number of camps/kids that would make use of or even need this May 1 registration would be very small vs the number of kids that would be dropped off prematurely in the spring. IMHO, unless you're looking for a way to dump kids early, leave it as is.
Everything for the overwhelming large percentage of membership starts around that September timeframe. The number of camps/kids that would make use of or even need this May 1 registration would be very small vs the number of kids that would be dropped off prematurely in the spring. IMHO, unless you're looking for a way to dump kids early, leave it as is.
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No. Their season straddles the calendar too. I don't know what day it is, but it isn't January 1st. Might be September 1st like the U.S. I'll try looking it up on their site.IMHO wrote:I'm sure it's still birth year.frederick61 wrote:Does anybody know what that does with Canadian teams? Are they changing their seasons also?
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I can't tell. There are references to a lot of dates. I suspect Sept. 1. It definitely isn't calendar year as every season is listed as 06-07 or 08-09.
www.hockeycanada.ca
Maybe someone else can find it. I don't think it matters. I've read the USA Hockey recommendation and it seems like a done deal. It won't have much effect.
www.hockeycanada.ca
Maybe someone else can find it. I don't think it matters. I've read the USA Hockey recommendation and it seems like a done deal. It won't have much effect.
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