KUDOS to the Hill Coaches

[hockeyxfan01]

I am very saddened the way people come on here and speculate what happened without knowing any facts and make this into something that it is not.

Scout, be saddened all you want. When details aren't provided, everyone is left to fill in the blanks.

I can think of a number of transgressions that would warrant being thrown off a team. Absent details, I'm left to wonder which one.

Speculation ends when facts are provided. It is that simple.

It's nobody's business, these are kids that made a mistake and there are probably over half of each hockey team or other sports teams that make the same one but they don't get caught or squealed on. And if you think any different you are pure ignorant.

There are also plenty of kids who would love to be good enough to play for Hill Murray that wouldn't make that "mistake" if they were given the opportunity. If these kids took their future in hockey for granted and decided to do something that could endanger it, they should pay the consequences. Just because "everyone does it" doesn't mean the coach should look the other way.

[pucknutz]

I am very saddened the way people come on here and speculate what happened without knowing any facts and make this into something that it is not.

Scout, be saddened all you want. When details aren't provided, everyone is left to fill in the blanks.

I can think of a number of transgressions that would warrant being thrown off a team. Absent details, I'm left to wonder which one.

Speculation ends when facts are provided. It is that simple.

It's nobody's business, these are kids that made a mistake and there are probably over half of each hockey team or other sports teams that make the same one but they don't get caught or squealed on. And if you think any different you are pure ignorant.

I think half may be an overstatement. In this case, from what I heard at the game, it was squealed on, then caught. The Hill parents I heard back the schools decision. Some of the boys may have had multiple offenses from what I was told. They messed up, plain and simple. If this were a public school the penalty would not be so steep. But, it's not a public school, the parents and administration expect more. My understanding is that it would be a two or three week offense at a public school. Is there an offense besides murder that carries an all season suspension in the public schools? Its a short season, shouldn't be that hard to stay out of trouble.

[hockeyfan2009]

Scout, be saddened all you want. When details aren't provided, everyone is left to fill in the blanks.

I can think of a number of transgressions that would warrant being thrown off a team. Absent details, I'm left to wonder which one.

Speculation ends when facts are provided. It is that simple.

It's nobody's business, these are kids that made a mistake and there are probably over half of each hockey team or other sports teams that make the same one but they don't get caught or squealed on. And if you think any different you are pure ignorant.

I think half may be an overstatement. In this case, from what I heard at the game, it was squealed on, then caught. The Hill parents I heard back the schools decision. Some of the boys may have had multiple offenses from what I was told. They messed up, plain and simple. If this were a public school the penalty would not be so steep. But, it's not a public school, the parents and administration expect more. My understanding is that it would be a two or three week offense at a public school. Is there an offense besides murder that carries an all season suspension in the public schools? Its a short season, shouldn't be that hard to stay out of trouble.

I don't know where you got your info from, but they were not caught doing anything......as far as I have heard the parents do not support a off the team punishment. They feel they deserve consequences but not off the team. Hill Murray is a catholic school and as far as I learned as a Catholic you are forgiven, not without penance or consequences so to speak. But this is like they committed a murder or something. And if the person (if it be a teammate) is guilty of the same crime he should get the same punishment.

[komada77]

Scout, be saddened all you want. When details aren't provided, everyone is left to fill in the blanks.

I can think of a number of transgressions that would warrant being thrown off a team. Absent details, I'm left to wonder which one.

Speculation ends when facts are provided. It is that simple.

It's nobody's business, these are kids that made a mistake and there are probably over half of each hockey team or other sports teams that make the same one but they don't get caught or squealed on. And if you think any different you are pure ignorant.

I think half may be an overstatement. In this case, from what I heard at the game, it was squealed on, then caught. The Hill parents I heard back the schools decision. Some of the boys may have had multiple offenses from what I was told. They messed up, plain and simple. If this were a public school the penalty would not be so steep. But, it's not a public school, the parents and administration expect more. My understanding is that it would be a two or three week offense at a public school. Is there an offense besides murder that carries an all season suspension in the public schools? Its a short season, shouldn't be that hard to stay out of trouble.

As a member of multiple HS sports teams, I'm pretty sure half is NOT an overstatement. In my experience, its actually an understatement. But then again, it depends on the team.

[hockeyfan2009]

In my experience as a parent, parents that condemn the most are those that don't look in their own backyard. These parents often get slammed with their own kids mistakes at some point or other. These kids are not bad kids, they are good kids that made bad choices. They don't deserve to be excecuted, like so many want to do to them. I read this forum sometime and see how ignorant people can really be and how they love to hear all the bad stuff. It makes me sick how people are, to me it's worse than what these kids did.

[O-townClown]

1. It's nobody's business,
2. these are kids that made a mistake and there are probably over half of each hockey team or other sports teams that make the same one but they don't get caught or squealed on.
3. And if you think any different you are pure ignorant.

1 - then why are people posting on it. I do think it is newsworthy that some players have been dismissed from the reigning champions.

2 - maybe

3 - How could anyone think differently? People have no idea what happened becuse it has been withheld like some state secret.

Claims of ignorance should be directed to anyone that thinks there won't be speculation on what happened. That's just human nature.

[pucknutz]

In my experience as a parent, parents that condemn the most are those that don't look in their own backyard. These parents often get slammed with their own kids mistakes at some point or other. These kids are not bad kids, they are good kids that made bad choices. They don't deserve to be excecuted, like so many want to do to them. I read this forum sometime and see how ignorant people can really be and how they love to hear all the bad stuff. It makes me sick how people are, to me it's worse than what these kids did.

Not caught doing anything. But caught with something! Im not sure what people want them executed? Perhaps the people who have hated HM all along. These kids messed up, like I said would this be the punishment at a private school. And yes the 5 or so parents from Hill I spoke with yesterday did indeed support the decision. Sorry

[hockeyfan2009]

In my experience as a parent, parents that condemn the most are those that don't look in their own backyard. These parents often get slammed with their own kids mistakes at some point or other. These kids are not bad kids, they are good kids that made bad choices. They don't deserve to be excecuted, like so many want to do to them. I read this forum sometime and see how ignorant people can really be and how they love to hear all the bad stuff. It makes me sick how people are, to me it's worse than what these kids did.

Not caught doing anything. But caught with something! Im not sure what people want them executed? Perhaps the people who have hated HM all along. These kids messed up, like I said would this be the punishment at a private school. And yes the 5 or so parents from Hill I spoke with yesterday did indeed support the decision. Sorry

Yes, probably the parents whose kids are doing the same thing, whatever that may be.

[youngblood08]

"FAIR" I love that word... what is fair, what isnt? The fact is that a coach made each kid sign a letter of commitment and integrity. If the players choose to take it lightly, and the staff chooses to uphold these kids to the highest standard so be it. I think lets not forget that these kids play for one of the top programs in the state and took it for granted. I think thats a slap in the face to the program, the alum etc..... I applaud the coach and hope it sends a messg to all players and coaches around the entire state! My dad used to tell me the "FAIR" was in August!

Slap in the face? You think this is the first and only group of hockey players from Hill that have done something like this? I grew up on the East Side and know many, many Hill grads that use the cover of "Private Catholic School" to hide their transgressions, I also know many that were "asked" to leave back in the day because of similiar incidents. So to the point of "Don't ask don't tell"

How is it a player at another Private school gets away with 2 DUIs and nothing is done about it nor said about it. How come the parents of this situation weren't made aware of problems with things like this in years previous? This is more Straw that broke the Camels back, these 4 paying the price For the Alumni from years before and being used as examples for the players to come.

[Scoutbanana]

pucknutz- read my last post and that exactly is what happened -they were caught with nothing and isnt it funny many more players involved but only the prominent plays were squealed on mmmmmmmmm maybe someone wanting to take a jump up to varsity.

[youngblood08]

pucknutz- read my last post and that exactly is what happened -they were caught with nothing and isnt it funny many more players involved but only the prominent plays were squealed on mmmmmmmmm maybe someone wanting to take a jump up to varsity.

[Visa]

Scout, be saddened all you want. When details aren't provided, everyone is left to fill in the blanks.

I can think of a number of transgressions that would warrant being thrown off a team. Absent details, I'm left to wonder which one.

Speculation ends when facts are provided. It is that simple.

It's nobody's business, these are kids that made a mistake and there are probably over half of each hockey team or other sports teams that make the same one but they don't get caught or squealed on. And if you think any different you are pure ignorant.

I think half may be an overstatement. In this case, from what I heard at the game, it was squealed on, then caught. The Hill parents I heard back the schools decision. Some of the boys may have had multiple offenses from what I was told. They messed up, plain and simple. If this were a public school the penalty would not be so steep. But, it's not a public school, the parents and administration expect more. My understanding is that it would be a two or three week offense at a public school. Is there an offense besides murder that carries an all season suspension in the public schools? Its a short season, shouldn't be that hard to stay out of trouble.

Just a FYI: The Minnesota State rules applies during the season and the off-season. A player, if caught, regardless of the time of the year has to suffer the penalty.

[Roseauverrated]

And how do you know that they quit.....don't post unless you know what you are talking about, because they did not quit. I am so sick of people writing things on here that don't know what they are talking about.

Honestly, what did you expect. Everyone on here is being all "oh I know but I'm not going to tell". If nobody is telling the facts on what happened, obviously rumors and speculation is going to come out that is far from the truth.

[mulefarm]

Players do not get suspended from rumors. They either were caught by somebody in authority or admitted what they did.

[pucknutz]

pucknutz- read my last post and that exactly is what happened -they were caught with nothing and isnt it funny many more players involved but only the prominent plays were squealed on mmmmmmmmm maybe someone wanting to take a jump up to varsity.

I'm just a spectator. Not a parent of any HM player. I did hear the story with a JV parent twist...but found it too hard to believe!!!! Thats why I asked if all players were treated the same. As we all know...parents are the ones that support the game, and they're the ones who taint the game. Parents clock watching to make sure Billy gets enough playing time, or coming on here touting their kids and teams for exposure. Like I said previously in this post...the players that played in the game were all to be commended on their behavior, both sides. Maybe it hits a little too close to home. I would imagine the school should ready itself for a lawsuit !

[hockeyfan2009]

Players do not get suspended from rumors. They either were caught by somebody in authority or admitted what they did.

LITTLE DO YOU KNOW!!!!

[downwithcloquet]

What exactly happened?