2008-09 Best Private School Team? Who's #1.

[Messier]

What is the best private school this year in the State of Hockey?

Hill - was but the loss of 4 players will hurt, but do not be surprised if they make some noise come tourny time.

Breck - ? Do not know much on them.

Blake - ? Same as above.

Marshall - Do not look to be as deep as in the past.

CDH - Are they young? Thought they would be better this year.

BSM - Lost some good players, thought the experience of returning players would make this team a top team this year.

AHA - I do not like there conference very weak for a team that should be one of the best year in and year out. Have a very good non-conference schedule 4 very tough games vs. non MNHS teams. Can Danny M, play like he did vs HM, the rest of the way and carry this team to state? Maybe in the hardest section with the top 3 teams in the state, 2 teams going home that could win it all.

STA - Would like to see them step up and make the move to AA, very good team, most likely your A champs this year.

[RamWarrior]

All the private schools should be in one section then only one can go to state. No there spread all over the sections so nearlly all of them can go, what a joke

[Pioneerprideguy]

Another joke is that somebody has to come out of Section 8 this year. Maybe they should decline this year & allow somebody from the cities (maybe even a private school) go to state.

[Goldy23]

All the private schools should be in one section then only one can go to state. No there spread all over the sections so nearlly all of them can go, what a joke

WHAH! WHAH! WHAH!

State should be about the best 8 teams in each class battling it out for the title(s), which for the most part it is.

Now to answer the question, my take is as follows;

1. AHA
2. STA
3. Breck
4. Benilde
5. Hill
6. SCC
7. Lourdes
8. CDH
9. Marshall
10. Totino

[scoreboard33]

All the private schools should be in one section then only one can go to state. No there spread all over the sections so nearlly all of them can go, what a joke

WHAH! WHAH! WHAH!

State should be about the best 8 teams in each class battling it out for the title(s), which for the most part it is.

Now to answer the question, my take is as follows;

1. AHA
2. STA
3. Breck
4. Benilde
5. Hill
6. SCC
7. Lourdes
8. CDH
9. Marshall
10. Totino

...1,000. Blake


and then I still think Hill over BSM.

[MNHockey75]

1. Academy of Holy Angels
2. Saint Thomas Academy
3. Benilde-St. Margaret's School
4. Breck School
5. Hill-Murray School
6. Cretin-Derham Hall
7. Saint Cloud Cathedral
8. Rochester Lourdes
9. Marshall School, Duluth
10. Totino-Grace

[ImissMYhockey]

Totino Grace should be higher

[MNHockey75]

Totino Grace should be higher

0-3 TRF
4-2 Blake
5-3 Minnehaha
5-3 Chisago Lakes
5-3 St. Louis Park

Not very impressive. Not to mention they lost to Duluth Marshall.

[HShockeywatcher]

Ram Warrior,
With the exception of Marshall, SCC, Lourdes and maybe few misc small schools, if schools weren't allowed to opt up, I'm pretty sure most (possibly all) of the private schools would occupy two sections...

[TheSniper09]

Totino-Grace yea they do play down to the level of others. but they still play up to other teams also. they beat red wing, lost to marsh. in ot. lost to mah. in ot tied roseau. they play breck and bsm this next week should be a good test for them. But all i can say is watch out for them around section time.........

[RamWarrior]

HShockeywatcherWith the exception of Marshall, SCC, Lourdes and maybe few misc small schools, if schools weren't allowed to opt up, I'm pretty sure most (possibly all) of the private schools would occupy two sections...

Holy Angels 2AA
CDH 3AA
Hill- Murray 4AA
Benilde 6AA
St. Thomas Acad. 4A
Totino Grace 4A
St. Cloud Cath 5A
Roch Lourdes 1A
Breck/Blake 2A
Duluth Marshall 7A


9 of the 11 can go to state the same year i dont wanna here 2 sections

[Indians forever]

Another joke is that somebody has to come out of Section 8 this year. Maybe they should decline this year & allow somebody from the cities (maybe even a private school) go to state.

Carefull what you Say!!!!

[PrivatePunisher13]

Is St. Thomas just trying to win 5 or 10 championships before they jump to AA??? They should feel pathetic that they walk all over everyone in single A when they should be playing some true competition.

[HShockeywatcher]

Ramwarrior, based on what you posted it would be:
1
Lourdes
2
Blake
Breck
Holy Angels
3
Cretin
4
Hill Murray
St Thomas
5
Cathedral
6
Benilde
7
Marshall

-Cretin and St Thomas are literally 2 miles apart, if they were left out of the same section, that would be silly.
-I said aside from Marshall, Cathedral and Lourdes (I would like to add Benilde to that list) because, although private, they are not in a section that is dominated by private schools.
-If it happened, yes, there would be private schools in every section aside from 8, but they would only have more than one in 3 sections (possibly 2), there would be maybe one or two AA private schools because of enrollment and far less at A state.
-Both tournaments would be so much better.

[stpaul]

Just for the record It is 6.7 miles from Cretin to St. Thomas Academy.

In my fantasy HS hockey world there would be a private school state championship tournament held every February or over Christmas. It could be 3-4 games built into the 25 regular season games. These schools have great rivalries & traditions - with HM, AHA, STA, CDH, BSM, TG & D-Marshall. There could be a play in bracket with the smaller private school teams the week before.

[High Flyer]

In my fantasy HS hockey world there would be a private school state championship tournament held every February or over Christmas. It could be 3-4 games built into the 25 regular season games. These schools have great rivalries & traditions - with HM, AHA, STA, CDH, BSM, TG & D-Marshall. There could be a play in bracket with the smaller private school teams the week before.

or what about a metro private school conference, with 14 games total, home & home.

HM
CD
STA
AHA
BSM
TG
Breck
Blake

[Zamman]

In a real world we would have a Christmas tourney:
Men's division would be:
AHA, CDH, Benilde, HM
In the boys division would be:you know who.......Opt up and then we can have a real tourney.

But in this world we could have:
AHA, CDH, BSM, HM, STA, RL, Holy Family and SCC.

Play it at Richfield and play both varsity and JV over three days.
A real Christmas Tourney. have the Archbishop lead the tourney and pass out the trophies.

[starmom]

In a real world we would have a Christmas tourney:
Men's division would be:
AHA, CDH, Benilde, HM
In the boys division would be:you know who.......Opt up and then we can have a real tourney.

But in this world we could have:
AHA, CDH, BSM, HM, STA, RL, Holy Family and SCC.

Play it at Richfield and play both varsity and JV over three days.
A real Christmas Tourney. have the Archbishop lead the tourney and pass out the trophies.

Add a Food Drive and maybe a raffle!

[deacon]

In a real world we would have a Christmas tourney:
Men's division would be:
AHA, CDH, Benilde, HM
In the boys division would be:you know who.......Opt up and then we can have a real tourney.

But in this world we could have:
AHA, CDH, BSM, HM, STA, RL, Holy Family and SCC.

Play it at Richfield and play both varsity and JV over three days.
A real Christmas Tourney. have the Archbishop lead the tourney and pass out the trophies.

Add a Food Drive and maybe a raffle!

don't forget morning mass.

[deacon]

Is St. Thomas just trying to win 5 or 10 championships before they jump to AA??? They should feel pathetic that they walk all over everyone in single A when they should be playing some true competition.

do people forget that STA won their first state championship ever in 2006 and only have two state titles total? give them some time.

[JV State Champs]

All the private schools should be in one section then only one can go to state. No there spread all over the sections so nearlly all of them can go, what a joke

That makes no sense. They all go because they are all good and if you want the state tournament to have the best teams it makes sense for them to be spread out. I suppose you could put them all in one section and we will all know that it is the real state tournament.

[JV State Champs]

Another joke is that somebody has to come out of Section 8 this year. Maybe they should decline this year & allow somebody from the cities (maybe even a private school) go to state.

Agreed section 8 is a joke. I think that only one team from outside the metro area should be allowed to go to the tourney. This would allow the best teams to play in the state tournament. Maybe then both Jefferson and Edina could go to the state tournament.

[karl(east)]

Another joke is that somebody has to come out of Section 8 this year. Maybe they should decline this year & allow somebody from the cities (maybe even a private school) go to state.

Agreed section 8 is a joke. I think that only one team from outside the metro area should be allowed to go to the tourney. This would allow the best teams to play in the state tournament. Maybe then both Jefferson and Edina could go to the state tournament.

Here is the map:

http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/googlemap.as ... &dclass=AA

They're arranged pretty logically geographically. Not only that, it is entirely possible to have a state tournament involving 7 teams in the immediate metro area, and Buffalo as the 8th. 7 of 10 teams in the allegedly "northern" Section 7AA are in the north metro or immediate vincinity. It's just that the other 3 are the only ones who ever win the thing. It's a similar story in 8AA, as Roseau and Moorhead, by far the furthest from the Metro, are the best.

Furthermore, since the establishment of AA in 93-94:
1dt/2nd/3rd place finishes by section at State Tourney:
1AA (south MN): 0/0/1
2AA (SE/cent Metro 94-07, now S Metro): 1/2/2
3AA (NE Metro 94-07, now SE Metro): 1/1/0
4AA (N Metro 94-07, now NE/cent Metro): 3/1/1
5AA (SW Metro 94-07, now N Metro): 4/0/0
6AA (West Metro): 1/1/2
7AA (NE MN): 2/3/6*
8AA (Cent/NW MN): 2/5/1

*: one of the 3rds out of 7AA was Elk River. The other top 3s are by either East or Rapids. All of 8AA's are Moorhead or Roseau.

By this measure, sections 7 and 8 have been pretty consistently the strongest at the state tournament. They just happen to have a lot of normally good teams down this year.

[High Flyer]

In a real world we would have a Christmas tourney:
Men's division would be:
AHA, CDH, Benilde, HM
In the boys division would be:you know who.......Opt up and then we can have a real tourney.

But in this world we could have:
AHA, CDH, BSM, HM, STA, RL, Holy Family and SCC.

Play it at Richfield and play both varsity and JV over three days.
A real Christmas Tourney. have the Archbishop lead the tourney and pass out the trophies.

You would actually choose a tournament format of just 1 weekend/3 games per school vs. 14 games, 7 home and homes per school? Talk about a tradition to look forward to. Would be one of the best conferences in MN, if not the best. Then the teams would then decide which school is the best private school each year and who are men and who are boys, regardless of class.

Also, no one could complain about bracketing, seeding, draw or home ice advantage either.

[BodyShots]

In a real world we would have a Christmas tourney:
Men's division would be:
AHA, CDH, Benilde, HM
In the boys division would be:you know who.......Opt up and then we can have a real tourney.

But in this world we could have:
AHA, CDH, BSM, HM, STA, RL, Holy Family and SCC.

Play it at Richfield and play both varsity and JV over three days.
A real Christmas Tourney. have the Archbishop lead the tourney and pass out the trophies.

You would actually choose a tournament format of just 1 weekend/3 games per school vs. 14 games, 7 home and homes per school? Talk about a tradition to look forward to. Would be one of the best conferences in MN, if not the best. Then the teams would then decide which school is the best private school each year and who are men and who are boys, regardless of class.

Also, no one could complain about bracketing, seeding, draw or home ice advantage either.

Would they need refs at these games? Privates never break the rules!