Greenway Raiders

greenway1969 · Post by **greenway1969** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 4:17 pm

If they don't get their feeder program going again, it will be sooner rather than later. Enrollment continues to decline and getting commitment and drive out of kids now-a-days is a real challenge.

ndirishfighting · Post by **ndirishfighting** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:46 pm

I think the only thing that is gonna happen to Greenway varies if the state jumps in and tells them what to do and if the supposed new and upcoming Nashwauk jumps in before the state does.

Indians forever · Post by **Indians forever** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:10 am

How is there feeder Prgram know (Mites, Squirts etc.)?

ndirishfighting · Post by **ndirishfighting** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:44 am

Last I heard the mites and squirt programs are doin great, got good numbers. Finally got coaches in there that the kids like and hopefully will make it fun for the kids and not push them away from the game

speedster22 · Post by **speedster22** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:56 pm

From looking at the remainder of the schedule I really only see 5 possible win; Silver Bay/Cook County, Lake of the Woods, Two Harbors, Duluth Central, and Eveleth. I really don't see any other possible wins anywhere else and I do believe that if they lose against Silver Bay tomorrow it will just snowball for this team and instead of a 5-20 season we will see at best a 2-23 season. Which it seems possible with the last four games being shut out... Let's just hope they can remember how to score. Has there been any one out as of late btw? Grades/Game Misconducts/Other Problems?

greenway1969 · Post by **greenway1969** » Thu Jan 22, 2009 12:47 pm

I see the Faust brothers are playing for Bloomington Jefferson. That helps explain why they are so good.

Indians forever · Post by **Indians forever** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 3:51 pm

ndirishfighting wrote:Last I heard the mites and squirt programs are doin great, got good numbers. Finally got coaches in there that the kids like and hopefully will make it fun for the kids and not push them away from the game

Nice to see that they are on the re-bound then.

niper-hawkfan · Post by **niper-hawkfan** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 7:10 pm

well the last i heard not many of the players care for anton. not a good note on a team that is on the verge of crashing. espically with orhn on the border of going to green bay or sticking around for his senior year.

speedster22 · Post by **speedster22** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 10:46 pm

You don't have to like a coach to win, plus with Orhn, I can't see him getting picked up anywhere if this is the kind of season they have next year too. You can be the best player on one of the worst teams who will get overlooked by scouts, or you can be an above average player on the best team and they might take a look. If Orhn stays it will be huge for the program, really if any of the seniors next year left it would kill the program, but that group coming up seems like a good one that really care for the sport, I expect good things in the 2009-2010 season

niper-hawkfan · Post by **niper-hawkfan** » Fri Jan 23, 2009 11:37 pm

speedster22 wrote:You don't have to like a coach to win, plus with Orhn, I can't see him getting picked up anywhere if this is the kind of season they have next year too. You can be the best player on one of the worst teams who will get overlooked by scouts, or you can be an above average player on the best team and they might take a look. If Orhn stays it will be huge for the program, really if any of the seniors next year left it would kill the program, but that group coming up seems like a good one that really care for the sport, I expect good things in the 2009-2010 season

The coach does need to find a way to keep the players on the team though. several are thinking about not returning for the 09-10 season simply because of the coach. most of the kids arnt having fun. some of them just want it to end. they had one close call with quiting already. and as for orhn. he just wants to play competetive hockey. he has already toured green bay and they want him. its weird how a team with as much passion as they had last year can just all of a sudden not care. At least thats what it seems like from a viewing stage.

greenway1969 · Post by **greenway1969** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:18 am

Isn't interesting how the players for Greenway have not liked any of the past three coaches. Maybe its the kids and their parents who are the problem and not the coaches.

niper-hawkfan · Post by **niper-hawkfan** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 10:22 am

i dont think they minded Nels. he just got the can because of swaring?

speedster22 · Post by **speedster22** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 3:26 pm

niper-hawkfan wrote:i dont think they minded Nels. he just got the can because of swaring?

The Admin wanted Nels out of there. Alot of the players didn't like Nels as a coach, but really I had no problem with him, I thought he did the best he could with what he had. But I also agree it's a coaches responsibility to make things more fun for the players and not as much as a job, Bird Lawson was great for that... I heard he's coaching mites or squirts now, which is unfortunate, cant imagine a Greenway Highschool team without him on the bench

defense · Post by **defense** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:03 pm

greenway1969 wrote:If they don't get their feeder program going again, it will be sooner rather than later. Enrollment continues to decline and getting commitment and drive out of kids now-a-days is a real challenge.

The numbers issue, though not talked about so much in hockey (yet) is NOT unique to Greenway hockey. In Fergus Falls there were 24 mites out this year...not near enough. In the near future I forsee a lot more mergers happening.

Indians forever · Post by **Indians forever** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 4:42 pm

niper-hawkfan wrote:well the last i heard not many of the players care for anton. not a good note on a team that is on the verge of crashing. espically with orhn on the border of going to green bay or sticking around for his senior year.

He could always go over to Grand Rapids and play...

PuckTime · Post by **PuckTime** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:01 pm

Indians forever wrote:
niper-hawkfan wrote:well the last i heard not many of the players care for anton. not a good note on a team that is on the verge of crashing. espically with orhn on the border of going to green bay or sticking around for his senior year.
He could always go over to Grand Rapids and play...

If you mean Grand Rapids, Mich then he should go for it, however, the orange and black probably don't have the want or need for him.

Indians forever · Post by **Indians forever** » Sat Jan 24, 2009 6:20 pm

PuckTime wrote:
Indians forever wrote:
niper-hawkfan wrote:well the last i heard not many of the players care for anton. not a good note on a team that is on the verge of crashing. espically with orhn on the border of going to green bay or sticking around for his senior year.
He could always go over to Grand Rapids and play...
If you mean Grand Rapids, Mich then he should go for it, however, the orange and black probably don't have the want or need for him.

Just trying to rub Salt in the old rivalry, if there still is one there!!!

speedster22 · Post by **speedster22** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:26 am

Indians forever wrote:
PuckTime wrote:
Indians forever wrote: He could always go over to Grand Rapids and play...
If you mean Grand Rapids, Mich then he should go for it, however, the orange and black probably don't have the want or need for him.
Just trying to rub Salt in the old rivalry, if there still is one there!!!

Just throwing this out there, Grand Rapids did have quite a long losing streak against Greenway (By far longer than the one right now) when there was alot of pride still in the program. There will always be a rivalry. If GR and Greenway were to merge they still would have GR vs G during practices

cesar_maniago · Post by **cesar_maniago** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:52 am

Maybe they could offer Mischke a great package to entice him over from Grand Rapids. He did such a great job with the Bemidji program (not).

hshckfan08 · Post by **hshckfan08** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 10:57 am

greenway1969 wrote:I see the Faust brothers are playing for Bloomington Jefferson. That helps explain why they are so good.

Not familiar with the iron range names, but did they move from greenway?

ndirishfighting · Post by **ndirishfighting** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:02 am

greenway had there chance to hire 2 decent guys, but no the A.D., Principal and Super Att had there triangle goin on and screwed up and hired someone that no one wants to play for or cares for.

niper-hawkfan · Post by **niper-hawkfan** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:24 am

ndirishfighting wrote:greenway had there chance to hire 2 decent guys, but no the A.D., Principal and Super Att had there triangle goin on and screwed up and hired someone that no one wants to play for or cares for.

Bird would have been the man for this job. all of the kids loved him and enjoyed coming to practice. he made it fun for them and he knew what he was doing too. it shouldnt even be up to the principal or super att. it should be up to the AD and the school board who the new coach is.

theoneandonly1 · Post by **theoneandonly1** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 11:29 am

hshckfan08 wrote:
greenway1969 wrote:I see the Faust brothers are playing for Bloomington Jefferson. That helps explain why they are so good.
Not familiar with the iron range names, but did they move from greenway?

They originally lived in Bloomington up until the oldest ,Dan, was a squirt and then they moved up to Greenway.Then they moved back to Bloomington when Dan was a Sophomore.

PuckRanger · Post by **PuckRanger** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:03 pm

greenway had there chance to hire 2 decent guys, but no the A.D., Principal and Super Att had there triangle goin on and screwed up and hired someone that no one wants to play for or cares for.

I think there are major issues with the Greenway program. Numbers is the least of them (although it is an issue). Every year, the same garbage keeps coming out of there - and I'm not referring to the quality of play on the ice.

The kids don't like the coach, the parents complain about the coach, the coach gets a bad rap for swearing (Really? I hate to break it to you folks, but coaches have been swearing in the locker room since the inception of team sports!), and the whining and politics go on and on...

Four coaches in seven years... It can't be the coach every time. Time for some folks to take a good look in the mirror in that neck of the woods. The program needs some stability at the top and some positive SUPPORT or it WILL be gone in a few short years.

The same can be said for the Eveleth-Gilbert program. If these two programs don't pull themselves together soon, they will both fold and take the storied Iron Range Conference with them.

Indians forever · Post by **Indians forever** » Sun Jan 25, 2009 12:23 pm

Just throwing this out there, Grand Rapids did have quite a long losing streak against Greenway (By far longer than the one right now) when there was alot of pride still in the program. There will always be a rivalry. If GR and Greenway were to merge they still would have GR vs G during practices[/quote]

Might want to go back and look at when the last time Greenway beat Grand Rapids? I think it is pushing maybe 8-9 years.