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KRACH by SECTION 2008-9

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KRACH by SECTION is now available at:

SECTION
http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC.htm
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Re: KRACH by SECTION 2008-9

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ghshockeyfan wrote:KRACH by SECTION is now available at:

SECTION
http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC.htm
Warroad's record is 21-2-0 as of this date. This posting has 20-2-0.
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goal4it wrote:
ghshockeyfan wrote:KRACH by SECTION is now available at:

SECTION
http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC.htm
Warroad's record is 21-2-0 as of this date. This posting has 20-2-0.
Unfortunately minnesota-scores.net hadn't yet entered the moorhead score so that w didn't get counted in the most recent krach ranking computation and record listing.

I should also note that while not an issue for warroad there are some other teams that play non-mn teams and those games are NOT reflected in the krach records for those teams. Those games also don't figure in to the krach ranking.

Also... If a team's record is not correct on krach check the minnesota-scores.net site to see if a game score isn't entered or is entered incorrectly
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No that it matters much but Rogers is 6-14 if you are looking for correct records. I see on the minnesota preps it is list as 6-14. Just for accuracy.

Thank you for all the KARCH work you do
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hockey21 wrote:No that it matters much but Rogers is 6-14 if you are looking for correct records. I see on the minnesota preps it is list as 6-14. Just for accuracy.

Thank you for all the KARCH work you do
I'll take a look at the Rogers record... Not sure why it's incorrect other than that an opponent they had was non-mn or ??? Hmm...
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ghshockeyfan wrote:
hockey21 wrote:No that it matters much but Rogers is 6-14 if you are looking for correct records. I see on the minnesota preps it is list as 6-14. Just for accuracy.

Thank you for all the KARCH work you do
I'll take a look at the Rogers record... Not sure why it's incorrect other than that an opponent they had was non-mn or ??? Hmm...
I'm guessing that the games against fargo north and hudson are reflecting the krach record as 5-13 vs 6-14 since they are non-mn opponents and there was a win and a loss vs those teams at the holiday tourney
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ghshockeyfan wrote:
goal4it wrote:
ghshockeyfan wrote:KRACH by SECTION is now available at:

SECTION
http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC.htm
Warroad's record is 21-2-0 as of this date. This posting has 20-2-0.
Unfortunately minnesota-scores.net hadn't yet entered the moorhead score so that w didn't get counted in the most recent krach ranking computation and record listing.

I should also note that while not an issue for warroad there are some other teams that play non-mn teams and those games are NOT reflected in the krach records for those teams. Those games also don't figure in to the krach ranking.

Also... If a team's record is not correct on krach check the minnesota-scores.net site to see if a game score isn't entered or is entered incorrectly
It seems minnesota-scores.net is not always correct in the stats either, so what source is the best?
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hockeya1a wrote:It seems minnesota-scores.net is not always correct in the stats either, so what source is the best?
You pretty much have to rummage through 3 to 4 sites to get everything you are looking for. And even then they still seem to be sketchy at best. Has the MGHCA site lost interest in keeping up with scores and stats?
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hockeyrube7 wrote:
hockeya1a wrote:It seems minnesota-scores.net is not always correct in the stats either, so what source is the best?
You pretty much have to rummage through 3 to 4 sites to get everything you are looking for. And even then they still seem to be sketchy at best. Has the MGHCA site lost interest in keeping up with scores and stats?
I do not know if it is totaly MGHCA fault. it is suppose to be the coaches that maintain stats at this site I believe and if the coaches dont feel like it then it will be inaccurate.
Who runs or is in charge of the minnesota-scores.net
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Re: KRACH by SECTION 2008-9

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hockeya1a wrote:
hockeyrube7 wrote:
hockeya1a wrote:It seems minnesota-scores.net is not always correct in the stats either, so what source is the best?
You pretty much have to rummage through 3 to 4 sites to get everything you are looking for. And even then they still seem to be sketchy at best. Has the MGHCA site lost interest in keeping up with scores and stats?
I do not know if it is totaly MGHCA fault. it is suppose to be the coaches that maintain stats at this site I believe and if the coaches dont feel like it then it will be inaccurate.
Who runs or is in charge of the minnesota-scores.net
It's up to the coaches or someone they designate to enter stats. Most coaches worry about the coaching first and the stats second I'd guess. These administrative tasks can be done by an assistant or parent or student manager.

No clue as to who runs minnesota-scores.net but since they are the ones that do the QRF the goal I had was to use the same data set at least for KRACH. There are issues with minnesota-scores. One is some incorrect W's being counted for teams that won in multi-OT or SO games (doesn't count as a win by MSHSL rules, etc.
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Updated as of 1-29-09:
ghshockeyfan wrote:KRACH by SECTION is now available at:

SECTION
http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC.htm
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2-2-09 MIDNIGHT

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Updated as of 2-2-09:
ghshockeyfan wrote:KRACH by SECTION is now available at:

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http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC.htm
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2-5-09 MIDNIGHT

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Updated as of 2-5-09:
ghshockeyfan wrote:KRACH by SECTION is now available at:

SECTION
http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC.htm
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KRACH Final Reg Season Thru 2-10-09

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KRACH Final Reg Season Thru 2-10-09:
ghshockeyfan wrote:KRACH by SECTION is now available at:

SECTION
http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC.htm
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here's a link to elimination by section to date:

http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC_ELIM.htm
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ghshockeyfan wrote:here's a link to elimination by section to date:

http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC_ELIM.htm
So GHS tell me again what this means as far as odds on the outcome for Tuesday:

1 1 Roseville 23-1-1 1220.164
5 2 Stillwater Area 21-4-0 499.743
6 3 Hill-Murray 21-4-0 361.074
23 4 White Bear Lake 14-9-2 69.880

Stillwater vs. Hill Murray
WBL vs. Roseville
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joehockey wrote:
ghshockeyfan wrote:here's a link to elimination by section to date:

http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC_ELIM.htm
So GHS tell me again what this means as far as odds on the outcome for Tuesday:

1 1 Roseville 23-1-1 1220.164
5 2 Stillwater Area 21-4-0 499.743
6 3 Hill-Murray 21-4-0 361.074
23 4 White Bear Lake 14-9-2 69.880

Stillwater vs. Hill Murray
WBL vs. Roseville
SW is a 1.384-to-1 favorite over HM (pretty even odds!) the 1.384 comes from dividing 499.743 by 361.074 (the respective team ratings); or you could say that the probability of SW beating HM is 499.743/(499.743+361.074) = 58.1%.

Similarly RV is a 17.46-to-1 favorite over WBL (odds) or the probability of RV beating WBL is 94.6%.

See this link for more details:
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... ht=#423130
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KRACH Final Thru Sections Thru 2-22-09

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KRACH Final Thru Sections Thru 2-22-09 (see links above or below) but note the missing scores for recent dates - you can check by team or other dates but here's a general link:
http://www.minnesota-scores.net/scorebo ... &sport=110

If you know a missing score or score correction send it to:
http://www.minnesota-scores.net/email.php

ghshockeyfan wrote:SECTION CHAMPS HIGHLIGHTED...

SECTION
*Note - this does include the section playoff results, but this ranking was more meant for pre-section play-off use...
http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC.htm
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ghshockeyfan wrote:here's a link to elimination by section to date:

http://www.bgoski.com/RANK_SEC_ELIM.htm
This is a ranking from pre-sections (2-10-09) that reflects the results of sections as far as elimination, which teams advanced, etc. (thru end-of sections 2-22-09)
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