[quote="packerpuck19"]There is one way to find that out, and that is to put all of the Private schools in the same section. I would love to see the first 2 or 3 years of that. It would be a great section Tournment, but I would guarentee that all of the private schools talent would drop dramatically. I would love to see this for all sports as well. These private schools should be there for if you want your child to get a better education, and not a ticket to the state tournment, in any sport...... You name a sport, and there is a powerhouse private school in that sport.
As for hockey, I can honestly say that making it to the state tournment just wouldnt mean as much to me personally if it wasnt with the kids that I grew up playing with. It would be like going to Canada with a AAA team or something. Thats what puts High School Hockey on such a pedistool here in MN.
I know numerous people that have turned down Job opportunities in another town, just so there kid can play hockey with his buddies through High School. Shouldnt have started this thread, now Im all pissed off.[/quote]
you are completely off your rocker. there should never be a separate tournament for private schools. kids are gonna go where the want, and good athletics should be offered at those schools. what would you think if you attended a private school all your life and grew up playing with a bunch of private school kids? then what do you do? and that would completely change the feel of the tournament, and that would be a horrible thing to do. Public schools have just as much of a chance to get to the tourney as private schools do, and therefore changing the tourney would be a horrible idea. As for playing with the kids you grew up playing with, thats all good and fun, but if you want to play with a different group of kids you should.
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hockeyboys
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4 pages of responses to this thread - and not one of the private school bashers have addressed the issue of open enrollement at public schools. Is it ok to go play hockey with other public schools and not these so called buddies you grew up with? As long as its to another public school it is o.k. but if it is a private school that is wrong???
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I guess the proposed stimulus package is the only thing I could think of right now as stupid as the thought of further socially engineering Minnesota HS hockey. I really don't think my rant on a message board will further divide our country and therefore see nothing wrong with my comment. Now back to my positive thinking tapes.HShockeywatcher wrote:Hockeyguy_27, you're entitled to your opinion, but I (along with Karl and others) would say this is a very serious topic. It has to do with the well fair of our society's children. The issue is that many don't take it seriously. We have a problem in our society that needs to be fixed and instead of coming together to discuss it on here all we can do is fight and become even more divided? You don't see anything wrong with that?
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It is not a one sided hatred, I really don't think there is any real hatred of private schools from kids in public schools, there is a hatred of schools who win by the schools who lose.HShockeywatcher wrote:I think it's interesting how most of the hatred is one sided. I've met so many people over the years who once they find out where I went to school, start talking the school down because it's private and they must recruit. It has nothing to do with specifics, it's just what everyone seems to hear. Chants at games are all in good fun, and after the game is over, you go home and hang out with your public schooled friends.
When parents choose to send their children to a private school in a community of people who send their kids to public schools, it is looked down on often. It is a very interesting how no one thinks about how having the private schools directly affects their schools and communities.
chiefofmedicine, while these thread usually never lead anywhere, there are usually productive posts, as there have been in this one. Within the last month we have made history, it would be nice if we could move forward instead of backward.
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scoreboard33, you hit the nail right on the head. I would use the word "dislike" though. There is a lot of ignorant dislike out there. People hear things and they take them for fact. Then every time they hear of a private school, the school of course recruits for all their sports. It is really sad to know this is out there.
There wasn't a race I lost where I hated those in front of me. Instead I was happy for them and their abilities. When will the day come the section runner ups will be wishing the winners good luck at state instead of hating them?
It was interesting watching the Pro-Bowl today, seeing some big guy knock over another big guy and immediately stand up and pick up the guy he knocked down. If only this happened more in sports.
There wasn't a race I lost where I hated those in front of me. Instead I was happy for them and their abilities. When will the day come the section runner ups will be wishing the winners good luck at state instead of hating them?
It was interesting watching the Pro-Bowl today, seeing some big guy knock over another big guy and immediately stand up and pick up the guy he knocked down. If only this happened more in sports.
That's cause it doesn't exist anymorehockeyboys wrote:4 pages of responses to this thread - and not one of the private school bashers have addressed the issue of open enrollement at public schools. Is it ok to go play hockey with other public schools and not these so called buddies you grew up with? As long as its to another public school it is o.k. but if it is a private school that is wrong???
Jealousy!
Everyone hates private schools (and Edina)!!
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To me it depends upon the reason that you go to a private school or why you open enroll.
If your son or daughter has the basics down, if he is a roll model. If he respects his teachers, coaches and teammates, fine. If he is doing his best in school, working hard... If he has the potential to earn a scholarship either academically or through sports...fine. If you can send him to a private school and demand that he work hard, get good grades, make something of himself...fine...
If he just really really wants to play for that better team cause his sucks... if he can't get along with his current coach, teachers... whatever... not so fine. This is the wrong message... when the going gets tough....leave.
If your son or daughter has the basics down, if he is a roll model. If he respects his teachers, coaches and teammates, fine. If he is doing his best in school, working hard... If he has the potential to earn a scholarship either academically or through sports...fine. If you can send him to a private school and demand that he work hard, get good grades, make something of himself...fine...
If he just really really wants to play for that better team cause his sucks... if he can't get along with his current coach, teachers... whatever... not so fine. This is the wrong message... when the going gets tough....leave.
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Just so I understand this...To me it depends upon the reason that you go to a private school or why you open enroll.
If your son or daughter has the basics down, if he is a roll model. If he respects his teachers, coaches and teammates, fine. If he is doing his best in school, working hard... If he has the potential to earn a scholarship either academically or through sports...fine. If you can send him to a private school and demand that he work hard, get good grades, make something of himself...fine...
If he just really really wants to play for that better team cause his sucks... if he can't get along with his current coach, teachers... whatever... not so fine. This is the wrong message... when the going gets tough....leave.
If your kid is in a situation that is hurting him academically and athletically at the school in which he/she is attending - to take him/her and put them in a better situation to help them succeed in life - that is bad??? What the heck? That is nonsense. I suppose this could be a good lesson in life for all those stuck in dead end jobs, with lousy bosses, and bad pay compared to others in the same line of work - they should stay at their job and not find something better. They should not do what is best for themselves and their families. This is a great lesson to teach. Exactly what lesson are you teaching these kids. If you are in a bad situation - you should stick it out because your friends are there? Even if it hurts your future?
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different kids need different things to help them succeed.
some do better in a big school with lots of activities, lots going on all the time. Some do better and can learn better with smaller class sizes, even though the school may not have as much to offer in other areas. Same reasons some kids do well at the U of M and others need a school the size of St. Olaf.
It is up to the parents to decide what is best for each kid. And, I truly believe that 90% of the time the decision is not based on athletics. If that were the case - Hill Murray wouldn't have 90 kids trying out for the Hockey team - those parents would choose schools where they knew their kids would be able to make the HS team.
We hear a lot about these super teams made up of kids dumping their friends and going off to the privates. In reality, that just isn't the case most of the time.
some do better in a big school with lots of activities, lots going on all the time. Some do better and can learn better with smaller class sizes, even though the school may not have as much to offer in other areas. Same reasons some kids do well at the U of M and others need a school the size of St. Olaf.
It is up to the parents to decide what is best for each kid. And, I truly believe that 90% of the time the decision is not based on athletics. If that were the case - Hill Murray wouldn't have 90 kids trying out for the Hockey team - those parents would choose schools where they knew their kids would be able to make the HS team.
We hear a lot about these super teams made up of kids dumping their friends and going off to the privates. In reality, that just isn't the case most of the time.