Hockey Family transferring to MN
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Hockey Family transferring to MN
We're potentially transferring to MN. We have a son who plays Peewee hockey in Detroit. Youth hockey can be a mess in this area, with players hopping from team to team as often as they and, more likely, their parents see fit. I've been told that MN youth hockey is based on the school a student attends, but I still don't have a clear picture of how youth hockey "works" in MN. Help!!
Last edited by brats on Fri Feb 13, 2009 10:29 am, edited 1 time in total.
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dogeatdog1
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Re: Hockey Family transferring to MN
If he is really good make sure that he moves to Burnsville MN...brats wrote:We're potentially transferring to MN from NW Ohio. We have a son who plays defense/RW on a AAA Peewee team out of the Detroit area. Youth hockey can be a mess in this area, with players hopping from team to team as often as they and, more likely, their parents see fit. I've been told that MN youth hockey is based on the school a student attends, but I still don't have a clear picture of how youth hockey "works" in MN. Help!!
Youth hockey is divided out by what city/school district you attend. (winter season) and then you can play on a # of possible AAA teams in the spring summer fall..depending on how nutso you are on Hockey. What birth year is he?well, you didn't say how old he is but through 9th grade where you play is based on your address and how it correlates to the local school district. You cannot go by the name of the community, check the district websites for boundary maps. There are many people who live in Lino Lakes and attend Centennial schools but have to play their youth hockey in other communities. That happens elsewhere around the state also. As long as you have the luxury of picking a place to live that is also a good hockey town, be sure that the place you choose to live is in the school district associated with the youth hockey association you choose. There are some perenially competitive associations and there are some that are good as waves of kids go through and there are some that have passed their prime (but who may be brought back to life via this lousy economy--hey hockey is virtually free in areas with good gambling revenue).
There are plenty of people on this board who will recommend associations to you, it sounds like he is probably skilled enough to play anywhere.
There are plenty of people on this board who will recommend associations to you, it sounds like he is probably skilled enough to play anywhere.
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mngopherfan
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Re: Hockey Family transferring to MN
Youth hockey associations are mapped out by public high school districts. Basically if you live in a town you are slotted to play in their youth program.brats wrote:We're potentially transferring to MN. We have a son who plays Peewee hockey in Detroit. Youth hockey can be a mess in this area, with players hopping from team to team as often as they and, more likely, their parents see fit. I've been told that MN youth hockey is based on the school a student attends, but I still don't have a clear picture of how youth hockey "works" in MN. Help!!
than definitely Forest Lakebrats wrote:1996
settle down, I was jk. You could start at www.mnhockeyrankings.com and go to the PeeWee A rankings. It lists all of the Pee Wee teams in the state and their ranking, schedule toughness and you can see all of their submitted game scores. Should give you some idea of what type of teams are available. All 96s are PeeWees this year and the first half, through June 30th will move to Bantams next year. July 1st though Dec. 31st plays at the PeeWee level next year again.
Bantams are a two year stint, with the majority of kids beginning their high school career in 10th grade.
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Youth Hockey in MN has no Winter "AAA" Teams based in Minnesota - Outside of Shattuck/St.Marys which most hockey people around the country are familar with...But that is a very, very expensive private school located about a hour south of DT Minneapolis We have a ton of Spring/Summer and Fall AAA and AA teams. PM me and I can give you some additional info on those teams..
But we do have some incredible association teams or maybe what you would call school teams. Normally, Kids play for the city or town they live in. SO pick a good school district and one that has great sports....My personal favorite is Eden Prairie....
But there 10-15 cities/suburbs that you can't go wrong. Just need to call around and check it out for yourselves I guess..Good Luck.
But we do have some incredible association teams or maybe what you would call school teams. Normally, Kids play for the city or town they live in. SO pick a good school district and one that has great sports....My personal favorite is Eden Prairie....
But there 10-15 cities/suburbs that you can't go wrong. Just need to call around and check it out for yourselves I guess..Good Luck.After getting some association ideas(and checking out the high school rankings there and see where the parallels are) at www.mnhockeyrankings.com, I would recommend coming back to this board and going to the search engine and searching for the assoc. topics, that'll give you an idea if there are a lot of unhappy people or just a few whiners.
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Brats
Just did this whole scenario 2 years ago...here's the skinny.
1-pick a house based on your travel to work
2-look online for QUALITY school districts
3-consider that hockey in Minnesota is school district based
4-If your kid is nasty, he should come visit Shattuck
5-The Larger associations seem to have an advantage overall by pure numbers, but the reality is that there are many many associations around the cities that have excellent coaches and programs
6-people here hate private schools and AAA, so don't talk about them or even mention them, just move, buy a house, drop your kid off at tryouts and don't let anyone know where you came from or where your kid is going to school
6-there are alot of hot hockey moms in White Bear Lake and Edina (Forrest Lake too!),
7-outside of hockey you have to consider travel to work, access to stuff your wife likes to do, buses to school or not
8-there is a guy Elliott up NORT' that can give you good advice on the northern part of the state, if you're an outdoors guy and have an Arctic Cat jacket, see him
9-just find a house you love in an area you like and everything else will take care of itself, don't worry about hockey
Just did this whole scenario 2 years ago...here's the skinny.
1-pick a house based on your travel to work
2-look online for QUALITY school districts
3-consider that hockey in Minnesota is school district based
4-If your kid is nasty, he should come visit Shattuck
5-The Larger associations seem to have an advantage overall by pure numbers, but the reality is that there are many many associations around the cities that have excellent coaches and programs
6-people here hate private schools and AAA, so don't talk about them or even mention them, just move, buy a house, drop your kid off at tryouts and don't let anyone know where you came from or where your kid is going to school
6-there are alot of hot hockey moms in White Bear Lake and Edina (Forrest Lake too!),
7-outside of hockey you have to consider travel to work, access to stuff your wife likes to do, buses to school or not
8-there is a guy Elliott up NORT' that can give you good advice on the northern part of the state, if you're an outdoors guy and have an Arctic Cat jacket, see him
9-just find a house you love in an area you like and everything else will take care of itself, don't worry about hockey
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mngopherfan
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Or maybe start by looking at what school district and community you want to live in...hockey isnt as important as both of those.DMom wrote:than definitely Forest Lakebrats wrote:1996
settle down, I was jk. You could start at www.mnhockeyrankings.com and go to the PeeWee A rankings. It lists all of the Pee Wee teams in the state and their ranking, schedule toughness and you can see all of their submitted game scores. Should give you some idea of what type of teams are available. All 96s are PeeWees this year and the first half, through June 30th will move to Bantams next year. July 1st though Dec. 31st plays at the PeeWee level next year again.
Bantams are a two year stint, with the majority of kids beginning their high school career in 10th grade.
Okay, I'll bite.
If you live in school district #???; or within the boundaries of City ???; tehn your child willplay for the association located there (or has control based on their affiliate agreement with MN Hockey).
In the late Fall, say Octobe 1, the association will have tryouts and your player will be placed on a team. Team levels are A, B1, B2, and C.
Not all associations have these levels and some will have multiple teams at the C, less so at the B2,less at B1. Most communities put one A team in play (there a re a few exceptions).
Your association will be combined with other associations to form a Minnesota Hockey district. There will be 8 to 10 (or more) associations within the district. Your players team will play a district schedule, participate in 3 to 5 tournaments anywhere from at home to down the highway to Norht Dakota or the Canadian border (your local association will decide this with some rules by the district).
The team will also play non-district games often referred to as scrimmage games (althought they are not just a scrimmage, they are real games).
If he is a bantam the numer of games could range from 40 or so to 70.
Again the local association controls this.
In mid-February district play-offs start. Each district has a little different method of soing these. But the basic is that a tournament format (usually double elimination) will be used to qualify 2 or 3 teams to Regions.
There are four regions around the state and the competing districts rotate on a yearly basis. Eash region sends two teasm to the state tournament.
The state tournament is single elimination and crowns a consolation, third place and of course, champion.
MN does not send team on to the National event.
MN also has VFW leagues for bantams (A level) which holds play-offs and a state tournament.
And of course from October to March, all of us older folks come here and argue what team is better.
That takes care of pee wees and bantams.
We have no midget program as that is covered by high school for 10th - 12th graders (with some variations).
But if the player gets cut or decides not to play HS, there is a JR Gold with A and B levels that is run by MN Hockey. (a 16 & under program is also available id junior gold is not what you want).
Junior Gold is for all kids 18 and younger that are still in high school.
I hope this helps.
If you live in school district #???; or within the boundaries of City ???; tehn your child willplay for the association located there (or has control based on their affiliate agreement with MN Hockey).
In the late Fall, say Octobe 1, the association will have tryouts and your player will be placed on a team. Team levels are A, B1, B2, and C.
Not all associations have these levels and some will have multiple teams at the C, less so at the B2,less at B1. Most communities put one A team in play (there a re a few exceptions).
Your association will be combined with other associations to form a Minnesota Hockey district. There will be 8 to 10 (or more) associations within the district. Your players team will play a district schedule, participate in 3 to 5 tournaments anywhere from at home to down the highway to Norht Dakota or the Canadian border (your local association will decide this with some rules by the district).
The team will also play non-district games often referred to as scrimmage games (althought they are not just a scrimmage, they are real games).
If he is a bantam the numer of games could range from 40 or so to 70.
Again the local association controls this.
In mid-February district play-offs start. Each district has a little different method of soing these. But the basic is that a tournament format (usually double elimination) will be used to qualify 2 or 3 teams to Regions.
There are four regions around the state and the competing districts rotate on a yearly basis. Eash region sends two teasm to the state tournament.
The state tournament is single elimination and crowns a consolation, third place and of course, champion.
MN does not send team on to the National event.
MN also has VFW leagues for bantams (A level) which holds play-offs and a state tournament.
And of course from October to March, all of us older folks come here and argue what team is better.
That takes care of pee wees and bantams.
We have no midget program as that is covered by high school for 10th - 12th graders (with some variations).
But if the player gets cut or decides not to play HS, there is a JR Gold with A and B levels that is run by MN Hockey. (a 16 & under program is also available id junior gold is not what you want).
Junior Gold is for all kids 18 and younger that are still in high school.
I hope this helps.
I was assuming that because they are asking on a hockey forum that it is important to them. It's sort of a no-brainer that those other things are extremely important.mngopherfan wrote:Or maybe start by looking at what school district and community you want to live in...hockey isnt as important as both of those.DMom wrote:than definitely Forest Lakebrats wrote:1996
settle down, I was jk. You could start at www.mnhockeyrankings.com and go to the PeeWee A rankings. It lists all of the Pee Wee teams in the state and their ranking, schedule toughness and you can see all of their submitted game scores. Should give you some idea of what type of teams are available. All 96s are PeeWees this year and the first half, through June 30th will move to Bantams next year. July 1st though Dec. 31st plays at the PeeWee level next year again.
Bantams are a two year stint, with the majority of kids beginning their high school career in 10th grade.
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[quote="jancze5"]Brats
Just did this whole scenario 2 years ago...here's the skinny.
1-pick a house based on your travel to work
2-look online for QUALITY school districts
3-consider that hockey in Minnesota is school district based
4-If your kid is nasty, he should come visit Shattuck
5-The Larger associations seem to have an advantage overall by pure numbers, but the reality is that there are many many associations around the cities that have excellent coaches and programs
6-people here hate private schools and AAA, so don't talk about them or even mention them, just move, buy a house, drop your kid off at tryouts and don't let anyone know where you came from or where your kid is going to school
6-there are alot of hot hockey moms in White Bear Lake and Edina (Forrest Lake too!),
7-outside of hockey you have to consider travel to work, access to stuff your wife likes to do, buses to school or not
/quote]
probably the best hockey related advice you can give.
Just did this whole scenario 2 years ago...here's the skinny.
1-pick a house based on your travel to work
2-look online for QUALITY school districts
3-consider that hockey in Minnesota is school district based
4-If your kid is nasty, he should come visit Shattuck
5-The Larger associations seem to have an advantage overall by pure numbers, but the reality is that there are many many associations around the cities that have excellent coaches and programs
6-people here hate private schools and AAA, so don't talk about them or even mention them, just move, buy a house, drop your kid off at tryouts and don't let anyone know where you came from or where your kid is going to school
6-there are alot of hot hockey moms in White Bear Lake and Edina (Forrest Lake too!),
7-outside of hockey you have to consider travel to work, access to stuff your wife likes to do, buses to school or not
/quote]probably the best hockey related advice you can give.
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MrBoDangles
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Re: Pick
I watched Shattuck play recently and I don't think that they are as good as people say they are.jancze5 wrote:Brats
Just did this whole scenario 2 years ago...here's the skinny.
1-pick a house based on your travel to work
2-look online for QUALITY school districts
3-consider that hockey in Minnesota is school district based
4-If your kid is nasty, he should come visit Shattuck
5-The Larger associations seem to have an advantage overall by pure numbers, but the reality is that there are many many associations around the cities that have excellent coaches and programs
6-people here hate private schools and AAA, so don't talk about them or even mention them, just move, buy a house, drop your kid off at tryouts and don't let anyone know where you came from or where your kid is going to school
6-there are alot of hot hockey moms in White Bear Lake and Edina (Forrest Lake too!),
7-outside of hockey you have to consider travel to work, access to stuff your wife likes to do, buses to school or not
8-there is a guy Elliott up NORT' that can give you good advice on the northern part of the state, if you're an outdoors guy and have an Arctic Cat jacket, see him
9-just find a house you love in an area you like and everything else will take care of itself, don't worry about hockey
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Tenoverpar
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seriously
Starmvp,
I have to ask, what game of SSM did you watch?
They aren't good compared to what? Minnesota Bantam A?
Here's the rundown after a quick glance-
-Shattuck is 16-3-1 against our Bantams
-they have outscored their Minnesota opponents 88-34
-they've given up more than 2 goals in 4 of 20 games
Please, enlighten us as to what you're using to compare to them in your opinion? I have to chuckle, I'm sorry, but after watching them play Wayzata, Rochester and Duluth East, I can't see how anyone can say that team isn't good.
Who gives that team hype anyway? I don't think there's any Shattuck related threads on this whole board are there?
I have to ask, what game of SSM did you watch?
They aren't good compared to what? Minnesota Bantam A?
Here's the rundown after a quick glance-
-Shattuck is 16-3-1 against our Bantams
-they have outscored their Minnesota opponents 88-34
-they've given up more than 2 goals in 4 of 20 games
Please, enlighten us as to what you're using to compare to them in your opinion? I have to chuckle, I'm sorry, but after watching them play Wayzata, Rochester and Duluth East, I can't see how anyone can say that team isn't good.
Who gives that team hype anyway? I don't think there's any Shattuck related threads on this whole board are there?