3rd seeded Eagan should win over over #6 Hastings on Feb. 26th. Game starts at 7:30.
Eagan did beat Hastings 5-2 almost two weeks ago.
However, Hastings has played Woodbury tough in two games - losing in O.T. and losing 2-0 (empty netter by Woodbury). The Raiders also tied Stillwater and Roseville and if their goalie (Jon Gleinser) is on, they could give Eagan a battle as well.
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Hastings (8-15-2) at Eagan (16-8-1) 3AA
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hockey junkie
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Hastings has no chance to beat Eagan. The only chance Hastings has to win is if the Wildcats get in a bus accident on the way to the game and can't get to the game. I'm sure the Hastings bus will be there, it's the only thing the Hastings Athletic Director has done right down there in 10 years. Order the buses. I wish I had that job. They must love 6-7 win seasons down there. Maybe next year Raider fans.
Re: Hastings (8-15-2) at Eagan (16-8-1) 3AA
All the more reason WDBY will have a tough go here...those Hastings games are very unimpressive. Not a great region but whoever wins will have had to play some good hockey...very competitive top 4...I could see any one of them winning it. Hastings will not beat Eagan.wbmd wrote:3rd seeded Eagan should win over over #6 Hastings on Feb. 26th. Game starts at 7:30.
Eagan did beat Hastings 5-2 almost two weeks ago.
However, Hastings has played Woodbury tough in two games - losing in O.T. and losing 2-0 (empty netter by Woodbury). The Raiders also tied Stillwater and Roseville and if their goalie (Jon Gleinser) is on, they could give Eagan a battle as well.
Predictions/comments.
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Don Cherry
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Re: Hastings (8-15-2) at Eagan (16-8-1) 3AA
Prediction: Welch has the boys ready, Gleisner stands on his head, and Hastings pulls the upset.
Its a whole new season and like it or not upsets will happen.
Hastings - 4
Eagan - 1
Its a whole new season and like it or not upsets will happen.
Hastings - 4
Eagan - 1
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youngblood08
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Re: Hastings (8-15-2) at Eagan (16-8-1) 3AA
Apparently you haven't been involved in a game with Hastings yet.Hoops wrote:All the more reason WDBY will have a tough go here...those Hastings games are very unimpressive. Not a great region but whoever wins will have had to play some good hockey...very competitive top 4...I could see any one of them winning it. Hastings will not beat Eagan.wbmd wrote:3rd seeded Eagan should win over over #6 Hastings on Feb. 26th. Game starts at 7:30.
Eagan did beat Hastings 5-2 almost two weeks ago.
However, Hastings has played Woodbury tough in two games - losing in O.T. and losing 2-0 (empty netter by Woodbury). The Raiders also tied Stillwater and Roseville and if their goalie (Jon Gleinser) is on, they could give Eagan a battle as well.
Predictions/comments.
Re: Hastings (8-15-2) at Eagan (16-8-1) 3AA
True...but maybe OClown can come up w/ a line for usyoungblood08 wrote:Apparently you haven't been involved in a game with Hastings yet.Hoops wrote:All the more reason WDBY will have a tough go here...those Hastings games are very unimpressive. Not a great region but whoever wins will have had to play some good hockey...very competitive top 4...I could see any one of them winning it. Hastings will not beat Eagan.wbmd wrote:3rd seeded Eagan should win over over #6 Hastings on Feb. 26th. Game starts at 7:30.
Eagan did beat Hastings 5-2 almost two weeks ago.
However, Hastings has played Woodbury tough in two games - losing in O.T. and losing 2-0 (empty netter by Woodbury). The Raiders also tied Stillwater and Roseville and if their goalie (Jon Gleinser) is on, they could give Eagan a battle as well.
Predictions/comments.
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dulutheastfan
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One things for sure. Welch and his posse or... Larry, Moe and Curly(coaching staff) as some Hastings fans refer to them as, won't have any kind of game plan and his team won't be ready to play, but that's typical and predictable because this is what the fans down in Hastings have grown accustomed to. Much like us who suffer in Stillwater.
What's really sad is, with any kind of direction at all, Hastings could have finished near the top of a very weak SEC.
But i for one can smell an upset in the making. Why? Becuse Hastings has one the top goalies in the metro and maybe in the state. A hot goalie, coupled with the fact that were dealing with kids and Eagan's not that good i'd say the pickin may be just right. If Eagan doesn't come ready to play and if they don't bury their early chances Hastings could sneak out of Eagan with the win.
Hastings 3-2
What's really sad is, with any kind of direction at all, Hastings could have finished near the top of a very weak SEC.
But i for one can smell an upset in the making. Why? Becuse Hastings has one the top goalies in the metro and maybe in the state. A hot goalie, coupled with the fact that were dealing with kids and Eagan's not that good i'd say the pickin may be just right. If Eagan doesn't come ready to play and if they don't bury their early chances Hastings could sneak out of Eagan with the win.
Hastings 3-2
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No matter how you feel about the Raiders...you can still listen in to the game Thursday night, LIVE at www.kdwa.com!
Personally, I'd love to see the Raiders pull off the upset.
And AL, I think Coaches Welch and Klein WILL have the boys ready.
Personally, I'd love to see the Raiders pull off the upset.
And AL, I think Coaches Welch and Klein WILL have the boys ready.
With all do respect Sports Guy. You seem to be hockey saavy enough, so i'll give you some rope, but what in the world would give you the impression Welch would have these boy's ready? Is that wishful thinking or do you have the "inside track"? Maybe you know something the rest of us don't? Aren't they like 5-15? Winless against anyone with a winning record? Who have they beat? M.V-Flake-Park-I'm not impressed.. Sorry! Both Ponie games were fairly close, but the Hastings goalie kept them in both. And all i really need to say is "Housely". That should explain the lousy showing right there.. But We can save that for another day.
Welch hasn't had his team ready for several year's now. I remember watching them a few years back when the Stewart kid and Stephan was still there and that group of good bantams they had and they still couldn't beat an average Woodbury team to get out out of the semis. If i remember last year Cretin or Woodbury flatened them like 10-1 in the 1st round.
This guy Welch's best days have long past. The folks in SSP saw it coming so they sent him packing. Look how that program has rebounded. Maybe Hastings should learn from the pro's.
Again it would not suprise me if Hastings wins. I saw them play a couple times earlier in the year and was impressed with only the goaltending. Defensively they could be as weak a team as i've seen all year and very little skill up front. This could be one of those games where they get get out shot 47-9 and still win. But i beg to differ that "the team" will be prepared. We shall see..
Welch hasn't had his team ready for several year's now. I remember watching them a few years back when the Stewart kid and Stephan was still there and that group of good bantams they had and they still couldn't beat an average Woodbury team to get out out of the semis. If i remember last year Cretin or Woodbury flatened them like 10-1 in the 1st round.
This guy Welch's best days have long past. The folks in SSP saw it coming so they sent him packing. Look how that program has rebounded. Maybe Hastings should learn from the pro's.
Again it would not suprise me if Hastings wins. I saw them play a couple times earlier in the year and was impressed with only the goaltending. Defensively they could be as weak a team as i've seen all year and very little skill up front. This could be one of those games where they get get out shot 47-9 and still win. But i beg to differ that "the team" will be prepared. We shall see..
He isn't even the best goalie in this game!powerade8 wrote:I personally think Jon Gleisner is one of the best goaltenders in the whole state, if you look at some of the shots he takes and how many every game it is unreal. Hastings has no talent and can not win games. Austin Nelson is one of the only very good kids that this team will have. Eagan will win this game, too much talent for hastings to handle.
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That's what I was thinking! Everyone is saying how good they think Hastings goalie is but Casper is no joke. I wish we still had him at AV would have made for a great goalie combo this year. Eagan will win this because of their goalie not the other way around. That's most of the reason I don't see this upset happening.Hoops wrote:He isn't even the best goalie in this game!powerade8 wrote:I personally think Jon Gleisner is one of the best goaltenders in the whole state, if you look at some of the shots he takes and how many every game it is unreal. Hastings has no talent and can not win games. Austin Nelson is one of the only very good kids that this team will have. Eagan will win this game, too much talent for hastings to handle.
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The more you talk the more it sounds the same. almost 80 posts and everyone of them is ripping on the same 2 guys. Welch and Housley, which one won't ask you to Prom anyways?
The team with Stepan and Stewert had 8-9 Sophmores on it pretty tough to make a run at an average Woodbury team that was all Seniors. Hastings has known the goalie would be the backbone of the team but it hasn't stopped them from coming to play every game. SSP is a dying a slow death and you won't admit it. How is it the great SSP had to join with IGH? to survive. They can't even field an A team at any level yet you think they are rebounding? Simley will start keeping thier players now with the new coach and transfer rules in play, hey maybe Rakness can turn old Wakota back into a live stock barn, maybe show some pigs. You might do well in that competition Al.
The team with Stepan and Stewert had 8-9 Sophmores on it pretty tough to make a run at an average Woodbury team that was all Seniors. Hastings has known the goalie would be the backbone of the team but it hasn't stopped them from coming to play every game. SSP is a dying a slow death and you won't admit it. How is it the great SSP had to join with IGH? to survive. They can't even field an A team at any level yet you think they are rebounding? Simley will start keeping thier players now with the new coach and transfer rules in play, hey maybe Rakness can turn old Wakota back into a live stock barn, maybe show some pigs. You might do well in that competition Al.
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Nice call on SSP rebounding Mr. Secord; Welch has been out of there for 12 years and you say now there starting to come around. Boy 12 years is a hell of long time to wait to be competitive again.
And would you stop with the Stewart and Stepan talk. Stewart is an average fourth liner at Mankato and Stepan was leaving regardless of who the coach was. This kid is an exceptional hockey player who has a future in the NHL. He left to play against the best and to better himself.
I know your a smart hockey mind Al and in saying that you would know that the A & B levels in the youth program haven't done anything in 5 years. Just this past weekend both the A & B peewees lost in the first round of district playoffs. Are you going to blame Welch for that too?
Sorry to get off the subject. I am still going with the upset here
Hastings - 4
Eagan - 1
And would you stop with the Stewart and Stepan talk. Stewart is an average fourth liner at Mankato and Stepan was leaving regardless of who the coach was. This kid is an exceptional hockey player who has a future in the NHL. He left to play against the best and to better himself.
I know your a smart hockey mind Al and in saying that you would know that the A & B levels in the youth program haven't done anything in 5 years. Just this past weekend both the A & B peewees lost in the first round of district playoffs. Are you going to blame Welch for that too?
Sorry to get off the subject. I am still going with the upset here
Hastings - 4
Eagan - 1
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If Hastings wins it will be 1-0 because they are not getting 2 goals.Don Cherry wrote:Nice call on SSP rebounding Mr. Secord; Welch has been out of there for 12 years and you say now there starting to come around. Boy 12 years is a hell of long time to wait to be competitive again.
And would you stop with the Stewart and Stepan talk. Stewart is an average fourth liner at Mankato and Stepan was leaving regardless of who the coach was. This kid is an exceptional hockey player who has a future in the NHL. He left to play against the best and to better himself.
I know your a smart hockey mind Al and in saying that you would know that the A & B levels in the youth program haven't done anything in 5 years. Just this past weekend both the A & B peewees lost in the first round of district playoffs. Are you going to blame Welch for that too?
Sorry to get off the subject. I am still going with the upset here
Hastings - 4
Eagan - 1
I'm just stating the facts.. How can anyone argue the fact that both Welch and Housley are lousy hockey coaches? I'm not tearing down the men that they are, or the former players they were, or the fathers they may be . The facts are right in the standings.. Year after year..Both are heads of very large program's that underachive every year. Why is that so difficult to understand?
Youngblood maybe Mr Housley will let you wash his car this summer, or maybe you can caddie for him. You seem to be blinded and ignoring the obvious. Was he your childhood hero?.... Well i hate to rain on your parade, but he was a much better player than he is a coach..
As far as Welch. How do lose a 1st round section game(last year) 10-1 with 9 seniors on your team? They weren't prepared and they had no game plan that's how.
As recently as a couple years ago Welch lost what 20 something in a row with those same 8-9 sophmores you just spoke of? Would it be too much to ask, that by the time these 8 or 9 kids become seniors that they should have improved enough that they shouldn't lose 20 some games in a row over a 2 year span? Do you really believe that does not have something to do with what these kids are learning? Or not learning?
I've said this and read this before, but why should a High School hockey coach be any different than any other position that does not perform up to capabilities? If the ACT scores are down who do do you think there going after... The teacher...
Russ Welch has not won since his kids left the Hastings program 10 years ago. He was blessed with 5-6 divison 1 athletes including Super Bowl winners and he still couldn't win a championship, in quite possbily the weakest section in the State. It's over the last 10 years since that group graduated your now seeing what kind of coach Welch really is.
As for Housley, well this season says it all.. The kids went from bad to worse just like that.. And as long as he's here there is no end in sight. Phil never learned the art of teaching kids. He doesn't understand that concept. But we all know he's here for 1 reason. Make sure Willy doesn't miss a shift.
Youngblood maybe Mr Housley will let you wash his car this summer, or maybe you can caddie for him. You seem to be blinded and ignoring the obvious. Was he your childhood hero?.... Well i hate to rain on your parade, but he was a much better player than he is a coach..
As far as Welch. How do lose a 1st round section game(last year) 10-1 with 9 seniors on your team? They weren't prepared and they had no game plan that's how.
As recently as a couple years ago Welch lost what 20 something in a row with those same 8-9 sophmores you just spoke of? Would it be too much to ask, that by the time these 8 or 9 kids become seniors that they should have improved enough that they shouldn't lose 20 some games in a row over a 2 year span? Do you really believe that does not have something to do with what these kids are learning? Or not learning?
I've said this and read this before, but why should a High School hockey coach be any different than any other position that does not perform up to capabilities? If the ACT scores are down who do do you think there going after... The teacher...
Russ Welch has not won since his kids left the Hastings program 10 years ago. He was blessed with 5-6 divison 1 athletes including Super Bowl winners and he still couldn't win a championship, in quite possbily the weakest section in the State. It's over the last 10 years since that group graduated your now seeing what kind of coach Welch really is.
As for Housley, well this season says it all.. The kids went from bad to worse just like that.. And as long as he's here there is no end in sight. Phil never learned the art of teaching kids. He doesn't understand that concept. But we all know he's here for 1 reason. Make sure Willy doesn't miss a shift.
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