Mounds View (7-17-1) vs. W.B.L. (13-10-2) 4AA Feb. 28th

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Who's going to advance to the semifinals?

Poll ended at Fri Feb 27, 2009 10:48 pm

Mounds View
13
27%
White Bear Lake
36
73%
 
Total votes: 49

Don Imus
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Post by Don Imus »

youngblood08 wrote:Also real funny, WBL takes a TO, MV student section is right behind WBL bench. They are harassing Wolters and start chanting "Ryan's leaving, thumpthump - thumpthumpthump Ryan's leaving" WBL Student section chants back " We Don't need him thumpthump-thumpthumpthumpWe don't need him" Then MV Students really went nuts at the WBL bench.

It was very entertaining.
As a WB alum, that's low class by the WB student section. Don't chant against your own player. Serves no point.
mnpuckster
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Post by mnpuckster »

Whers is wolters going? cause he hasnt played all that well even when healthy.
guitarer1c
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Post by guitarer1c »

I was wondering the same thing . . .
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Post by mvhockey12 »

Don Imus wrote:
youngblood08 wrote:Also real funny, WBL takes a TO, MV student section is right behind WBL bench. They are harassing Wolters and start chanting "Ryan's leaving, thumpthump - thumpthumpthump Ryan's leaving" WBL Student section chants back " We Don't need him thumpthump-thumpthumpthumpWe don't need him" Then MV Students really went nuts at the WBL bench.

It was very entertaining.
As a WB alum, that's low class by the WB student section. Don't chant against your own player. Serves no point.
Nothing has changed in this decade. That was the best part of the student sections all game. It all started when Wolters got absolutely lighted up in the very first shift of the game.
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Post by wblhockeyfan8 »

youngblood08 wrote:Also real funny, WBL takes a TO, MV student section is right behind WBL bench. They are harassing Wolters and start chanting "Ryan's leaving, thumpthump - thumpthumpthump Ryan's leaving" WBL Student section chants back " We Don't need him thumpthump-thumpthumpthumpWe don't need him" Then MV Students really went nuts at the WBL bench.

It was very entertaining.
He was very very very angry about that, we all recieved texts.

I don't know if any of us thought it was neccesary, but maybe our seniors just wanted to get a comeback in no matter what. Who knows.
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Post by 1parent »

WBL has really changed over the years in my opinion. They don't show a lot of class at all. Going through the other teams crease in the second and third period is just low. Also saw them play MV twice this year and have seen a player from WBL come off the ice and start jawing at MV coach while the coaching staff does nothing about it. There is no doubt they are a very good team and program but the class is pretty low. It seems as though the coaching staff has no control over the players. Its one thing for players to jaw at each other but how do you let your players start jawing at coaches and not do anything. I hope Wolters does leave and comes back to where he belongs. Why did he ever leave to begin with? Also how bad is it to turn your back with a chant on one of your best players explain to me how that's does any good.
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1parent wrote:WBL has really changed over the years in my opinion. They don't show a lot of class at all. Going through the other teams crease in the second and third period is just low. Also saw them play MV twice this year and have seen a player from WBL come off the ice and start jawing at MV coach while the coaching staff does nothing about it. There is no doubt they are a very good team and program but the class is pretty low. It seems as though the coaching staff has no control over the players. Its one thing for players to jaw at each other but how do you let your players start jawing at coaches and not do anything. I hope Wolters does leave and comes back to where he belongs. Why did he ever leave to begin with? Also how bad is it to turn your back with a chant on one of your best players explain to me how that's does any good.
Did you see the cheap shots shorty was giving all night. Can this kid ever skate by an opponent without slashing the back of his legs. And what about the end of the game. He skates from one side of the ice to the other to give a cheap hit to a kid who didn't even have the puck for about 5 seconds. Then he tries to draw him into a fight with punches to the head.

BTW, he left because we wanted a chance to win.

Get off your high horse. :roll:
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Post by mnpuckster »

So he is going back to Mounds View??? Where is he going? not USHL, certainly not ready for any of that.
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Post by 1parent »

All I know is looking at pointstreak penalties are something like 7 MV, 6 WBL. I think it was a physical very emotional game. Both sides delivered some big hits. If he left for a chance to win then why is he leaving WBL? Is it because he is still searching for that chance to win? So WB people why is one of your captains going to leave for his senior year? Wouldn't that be something if he come's back home to MV and beats WBL next year in sections?
BodyShots wrote:
1parent wrote:WBL has really changed over the years in my opinion. They don't show a lot of class at all. Going through the other teams crease in the second and third period is just low. Also saw them play MV twice this year and have seen a player from WBL come off the ice and start jawing at MV coach while the coaching staff does nothing about it. There is no doubt they are a very good team and program but the class is pretty low. It seems as though the coaching staff has no control over the players. Its one thing for players to jaw at each other but how do you let your players start jawing at coaches and not do anything. I hope Wolters does leave and comes back to where he belongs. Why did he ever leave to begin with? Also how bad is it to turn your back with a chant on one of your best players explain to me how that's does any good.
Did you see the cheap shots shorty was giving all night. Can this kid ever skate by an opponent without slashing the back of his legs. And what about the end of the game. He skates from one side of the ice to the other to give a cheap hit to a kid who didn't even have the puck for about 5 seconds. Then he tries to draw him into a fight with punches to the head.

BTW, he left because we wanted a chance to win.
Get off your high horse. :roll:
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Post by mngophs04 »

1parent wrote:All I know is looking at pointstreak penalties are something like 7 MV, 6 WBL. I think it was a physical very emotional game. Both sides delivered some big hits. If he left for a chance to win then why is he leaving WBL? Is it because he is still searching for that chance to win? So WB people why is one of your captains going to leave for his senior year? Wouldn't that be something if he come's back home to MV and beats WBL next year in sections?
BodyShots wrote:
1parent wrote:WBL has really changed over the years in my opinion. They don't show a lot of class at all. Going through the other teams crease in the second and third period is just low. Also saw them play MV twice this year and have seen a player from WBL come off the ice and start jawing at MV coach while the coaching staff does nothing about it. There is no doubt they are a very good team and program but the class is pretty low. It seems as though the coaching staff has no control over the players. Its one thing for players to jaw at each other but how do you let your players start jawing at coaches and not do anything. I hope Wolters does leave and comes back to where he belongs. Why did he ever leave to begin with? Also how bad is it to turn your back with a chant on one of your best players explain to me how that's does any good.
Did you see the cheap shots shorty was giving all night. Can this kid ever skate by an opponent without slashing the back of his legs. And what about the end of the game. He skates from one side of the ice to the other to give a cheap hit to a kid who didn't even have the puck for about 5 seconds. Then he tries to draw him into a fight with punches to the head.

BTW, he left because we wanted a chance to win.
Get off your high horse. :roll:
If I understand the transfer rule (which it is very possible I don't), he couldn't play hockey at Mounds View, so that couldn't happen.

The chant against him by White Bear's student section was low, though. It made the entire school and fans look bad.
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Post by mnpuckster »

So then I take it he is headed to juniors next year? anyone from White Bear know the answer to this? If this is the case, I am very suprised becasue of the lack of production this year. I mean, he was overshadowed by a pair of soph-o-mores, even when he was healthy.
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Post by 1parent »

mngophs04 wrote:
1parent wrote:All I know is looking at pointstreak penalties are something like 7 MV, 6 WBL. I think it was a physical very emotional game. Both sides delivered some big hits. If he left for a chance to win then why is he leaving WBL? Is it because he is still searching for that chance to win? So WB people why is one of your captains going to leave for his senior year? Wouldn't that be something if he come's back home to MV and beats WBL next year in sections?
BodyShots wrote: Did you see the cheap shots shorty was giving all night. Can this kid ever skate by an opponent without slashing the back of his legs. And what about the end of the game. He skates from one side of the ice to the other to give a cheap hit to a kid who didn't even have the puck for about 5 seconds. Then he tries to draw him into a fight with punches to the head.

BTW, he left because we wanted a chance to win.
Get off your high horse. :roll:
If I understand the transfer rule (which it is very possible I don't), he couldn't play hockey at Mounds View, so that couldn't happen.

The chant against him by White Bear's student section was low, though. It made the entire school and fans look bad.
That was one of my points early on is the WBL doesn't seem to have the class they did back in the days. I don't know if the transfer rule would apply to him as he was at MV for his 9th grade year and his parents live in the school district. I could be wrong.
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Post by thedude. »

he could go to mv and still play for wb... wb schooling is crap compared to mv.. and why would he want to stay at a school where no one wants him there anyway. that chant was a low blow especially when hes done nothing to deserve that and has contributed to the team quite a bit over the past two years
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thedude. wrote:he could go to mv and still play for wb... wb schooling is crap compared to mv.. and why would he want to stay at a school where no one wants him there anyway. that chant was a low blow especially when hes done nothing to deserve that and has contributed to the team quite a bit over the past two years
I didn't know he could do that. Also don't think that would be a very smart thing to do. It would be really tough for him when the hockey season rolls around I'm sure the students would be all over him. I'll say this, if he does come back you better watch out for MV next year. With all the WBL posters on here no body knows anything about this. Where is Goldy, wbmd, blonco come on guys you must have heard something over there, my guess is we might see him in green next year!
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Post by mustangman »

Why do we even argue this. He isn't ever going to play for us. He will be back at WB tormenting us again next year. Why would he leave their and the two guys he is playing with to come back to MV?????????? If he transferred back he would be ineligible.

Our program is so far backwards it is scary. Half of the locker room wants to revolt the other half wanted it to end.
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mustangman wrote:Why do we even argue this. He isn't ever going to play for us. He will be back at WB tormenting us again next year. Why would he leave their and the two guys he is playing with to come back to MV?????????? If he transferred back he would be ineligible.

Our program is so far backwards it is scary. Half of the locker room wants to revolt the other half wanted it to end.
I don't think anyone is arguing just wondering where he is going. I'm not to sure he would be ineligible? If he is having problems at school there could be a good possiblity he is leaving. It would be a bit surprising to see him come back at MV. MV could be scary next year and add him to that.! WOW

So what is the answer to getting things turned in the right direction for this program? Why don't a lot of these guys want to play?
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Post by thedude. »

he is having problems with the people at the school... obviously there are some not so nice people at wb excluding the kids on the hockey team and the people at mv are a better bunch of kids.. its all up to the ADs to figure this one out.. he could go to mv and still play for wb if thats what it takes for him to keep playin hockey..
And to add to the program... its the coaching. they are a good bunch of guys but they dont know how to coach high school kids.. they have horrible communication with the kids. all the kids want to do is play even if it is just jv. the coaches keep kids on varsity and all they do is sit on the bench. that is why everyone wants to quit/leave. get new coaches or get rick thomas as the head coach and everything will be alright.
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1parent wrote:
mustangman wrote:Why do we even argue this. He isn't ever going to play for us. He will be back at WB tormenting us again next year. Why would he leave their and the two guys he is playing with to come back to MV?????????? If he transferred back he would be ineligible.

Our program is so far backwards it is scary. Half of the locker room wants to revolt the other half wanted it to end.
I don't think anyone is arguing just wondering where he is going. I'm not to sure he would be ineligible? If he is having problems at school there could be a good possiblity he is leaving. It would be a bit surprising to see him come back at MV. MV could be scary next year and add him to that.! WOW
So what is the answer to getting things turned in the right direction for this program? Why don't a lot of these guys want to play?
That's the beauty of High School sports. There is always next year. Tartan says they are going to be great next year. Woodbury says they will be awesome next year. And Moundsview is going to be scary. With Hill's roster, they will be good next year and every year after.
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Post by 1parent »

Bodyshot - Maybe I shouldn't use the word scary. Maybe your right and they will back at the bottom next year. This thing need to get turned around. Time will only tell. Where ever he ends up I'm sure he'll be just fine!
BodyShots wrote:
1parent wrote:
mustangman wrote:Why do we even argue this. He isn't ever going to play for us. He will be back at WB tormenting us again next year. Why would he leave their and the two guys he is playing with to come back to MV?????????? If he transferred back he would be ineligible.

Our program is so far backwards it is scary. Half of the locker room wants to revolt the other half wanted it to end.
I don't think anyone is arguing just wondering where he is going. I'm not to sure he would be ineligible? If he is having problems at school there could be a good possiblity he is leaving. It would be a bit surprising to see him come back at MV. MV could be scary next year and add him to that.! WOW
So what is the answer to getting things turned in the right direction for this program? Why don't a lot of these guys want to play?
That's the beauty of High School sports. There is always next year. Tartan says they are going to be great next year. Woodbury says they will be awesome next year. And Moundsview is going to be scary. With Hill's roster, they will be good next year and every year after.
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1parent wrote:
thedude. wrote:he could go to mv and still play for wb... wb schooling is crap compared to mv.. and why would he want to stay at a school where no one wants him there anyway. that chant was a low blow especially when hes done nothing to deserve that and has contributed to the team quite a bit over the past two years
I didn't know he could do that. Also don't think that would be a very smart thing to do. It would be really tough for him when the hockey season rolls around I'm sure the students would be all over him. I'll say this, if he does come back you better watch out for MV next year. With all the WBL posters on here no body knows anything about this. Where is Goldy, wbmd, blonco come on guys you must have heard something over there, my guess is we might see him in green next year!
All I know is that Ryan is on the USHL '92 draft list. In my opinion, Ryan took the year too lightly. In watching captain's practices, he appeared to come into camp a bit out of shape, but moreso, he almost appeared like a veteran baseball player, just in camp to work on a few things... stick handling moves, etc., not get ready for the season.

His leg injury prior to the first Mounds Vew meeting set him back... He WAS starting to skate better, prior to that. And I think, he's had it tweaked here and there and has battled thru the soreness all season long.

I have only spoken to him a couple times off the ice, with his injury situation, and all I know he is a pretty damn likable young man.

I also thought he skated his best, most consistent game of the year vs MV this last game, and I started to see the player that is touted a USHL draft prospect.

In fairness to Ryan, Birki and Wahlin just have an extra gear, and longtime chemistry, and he gets lost in the shuffle. I certainly don't think it's his lack of skills.

Now.... it just makes me curious as to HOW the MV student section started the chant to begin with, that Ryan was leaving, because, obviously, someone over there must have the information, or it never would have been brought up.

I also believe that, since he's on the USHL draft list, they know he HAS the ability, and it may be a situation that in order for him to get his game back, he has to move on, and a couple years of juniors would benefit him.

I am not trying to speak for him, but when you don't live in WBL, and you live in MV, there really isn't much allegiance to WBL, and if he was just using WBL as a stepping ground to get to juniors or college, why would he come back next year, if he had the chance to leave?

It's one thing if you grow up with all your buddies, spend 11 years with some kids, and then it's that tough decision to graduate with your pals or leave, I would always live out my HS years. Ryan has been with these kids for just two years.

I would hate to see him leave... Like I said, I think he's a pretty likable kid, but I am not in the locker room.
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Post by blanco oso »

alright first of all.
as dumb as the "we dont need him" chant sounded, it was more implying, we could beat MV with our jv team...not so much as a we dont need him on our team to win.
second of all
word on the street is he is going BACK to moundsview. who knows why? only god, and ryan wolter. ive heard more people say he isnt even sure what hes doing as well, but he is talking about leaving WB next year which would be a bad move to the WB program on his part since they gave him a spot on a very good team AND the assistant captain position and to leave would be a(taking terms lighty)bad move.
third of all
who cares right now. i think wb should be thinking about the hill game while they still have the kid on the team for sure! maybe once the seasons over or next year rolls around but come on...we need to focus on play the hill-murray smokies. r, i mean, the hill-murray pioneers.
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Don Imus wrote:
youngblood08 wrote:Also real funny, WBL takes a TO, MV student section is right behind WBL bench. They are harassing Wolters and start chanting "Ryan's leaving, thumpthump - thumpthumpthump Ryan's leaving" WBL Student section chants back " We Don't need him thumpthump-thumpthumpthumpWe don't need him" Then MV Students really went nuts at the WBL bench.

It was very entertaining.
As a WB alum, that's low class by the WB student section. Don't chant against your own player. Serves no point.
your right. but your wrong. if a captain leaves his team after commiting to them to go back to moundsview, one of the worst hockey programs in the state, the students have every right to cheer against a player. BUT i will add, like i just stated in a post, that it wasnt directed as we dont need him on our team, more so just we dont need him to beat the mustangs, or any other crappy team
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blanco oso wrote: game while they still have the kid on the team for sure! maybe once the seasons over or next year rolls around but come on...we need to focus on play the hill-murray smokies. r, i mean, the hill-murray pioneers.


blanco???? Always a thrill, man... always a thrill..
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Goldfishdude wrote:
blanco oso wrote: game while they still have the kid on the team for sure! maybe once the seasons over or next year rolls around but come on...we need to focus on play the hill-murray smokies. r, i mean, the hill-murray pioneers.


blanco???? Always a thrill, man... always a thrill..
blanco's my hero. :D
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Post by sddave »

1parent wrote:WBL has really changed over the years in my opinion. They don't show a lot of class at all. Going through the other teams crease in the second and third period is just low. Also saw them play MV twice this year and have seen a player from WBL come off the ice and start jawing at MV coach while the coaching staff does nothing about it. There is no doubt they are a very good team and program but the class is pretty low. It seems as though the coaching staff has no control over the players. Its one thing for players to jaw at each other but how do you let your players start jawing at coaches and not do anything. I hope Wolters does leave and comes back to where he belongs. Why did he ever leave to begin with? Also how bad is it to turn your back with a chant on one of your best players explain to me how that's does any good.
You are aware that the MV coach is a former WB player? And one of the assistants used to coach in WB too. I am not saying this excuses the behavior, and I agree that current WB coaches should do something about it, but perhaps some of the WB players know the MV coach better you think?
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