Smartest Bantam a players

minnehockey02 · Post by **minnehockey02** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:33 pm

Who do you think is the smartest bantam a in the state not the most skilled the smartest

HustleandFlow · Post by **HustleandFlow** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:39 pm

One would have to coach every kid to be able to effectivly answer this question. If you don't take a coaches pole of the smartest player on each of their teams you might as well be asking, "Who is the best dressed Bantam A in the state".

benw · Post by **benw** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 11:06 pm

just from watching him play I would have to say Guentzel. That kid is a point machine. He is at a great disadvantage by his physical size but yet can still out score anyone by making incredible plays.

nahc · Post by **nahc** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:16 am

Jake is a mediocre player on Woodbury's Bantam A team. He was a VERY good squirt player and a good Pee Wee player but his size is limiting now........especially since he doesn't have the speed to make up for his size. Jake can't beat any good defenseman 1x1........"Smart" players really cause commotion in the offensive zone and are always in position defensively...........I just haven't seen that with this skater..........Am sure Jake is a leader on this current team which makes his contributions just as valuable!!!!

Woodbury has a very talented team that could easily make some noise in the Regions..........

netminder.net · Post by **netminder.net** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 10:24 am

Jake is a mediocre player on Woodbury's Bantam A team

Am sure Jake is a leader on this current team which makes his contributions just as valuable!!!!

Woodbury has a very talented team that could easily make some noise in the Regions

These seem to be a little contradictory, a mediocre player, leading his very talented team???

#9 is small, doesn't have blinding speed, but has found a way to put up big numbers at each level he has played. Great hands and puck skills, and he probably sees the ice better than any player at this level. And the kid can flat out score!!
Doing more with less, sounds pretty "smart" to me.

nahc · Post by **nahc** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:48 pm

A skater doesn't have to be a top point producer on a team to be a leader. Attitude, work ethic, respect of parents, coaches, other players, and other positive attributes are what I define as a leader, not who has the most points on a team.........

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:06 pm

nahc wrote:A skater doesn't have to be a top point producer on a team to be a leader. Attitude, work ethic, respect of parents, coaches, other players, and other positive attributes are what I define as a leader, not who has the most points on a team.........

Exactly!

Night Train · Post by **Night Train** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:17 pm

Who cares. Smart or not this particular player is one of the smallest Bantam As around this season. Definitely the weakest on his team. He's a first year so definitely not among the top 100 Bantam As.

Mike, get off the Forum. I'm surprised you have time being busy with the Colorado College job and all.

conditioningsucks · Post by **conditioningsucks** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:37 pm

good call Night Train,

Is it just me, or has anyone noticed a pattern among all of these "Best Of" boards where they are pumping kids who are '94s?

Virtually all of the top 10 Bantam teams are being carried by '93s, yet we hear nothing about them.

Me thinks that there is some serious pumping going on in light of Advanced 15s being just around the corner and some kids need some PR. We see above average, but very marginal players being pumped like they are the next Crosby, Brodeur, or Lidstrom.

I mean c'mon --- the "Smartest Bantam A". I think I've seen it all now!

Agree or disagree?

dump and chase · Post by **dump and chase** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:42 pm

rumor has it coming next week is the "BEST TAPE JOB" thread.. keep your eyes out and be ready to post....

HustleandFlow · Post by **HustleandFlow** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:48 pm

Don't forget to respond to the best slap shot at the 1999 AAA level thread.

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:50 pm

If you guys don't like the threads that are being made don't post on them.

HustleandFlow · Post by **HustleandFlow** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:18 pm

OK star, lets talk about this particular thread. Whom do you peg as the smartest Bantam A in the state. How many of the 100+ coaches have you talked with.

Criteria - Skill above average, ice awareness, sees play before it happens, activity without the puck, special teams play, locker room, leadership qualities. These would be qualities you would look for give or take a few subject to individual opinion.

Based on the above statement I would say this thread is next to impossible to answer accurately. I can tell you who the smartest player on my sons Bantam A team is. I can tell you who I think is the smartest player on a couple of the teams in his district but I have no idea how they are in the locker room or with leadership.

How many different Bantam A teams did you watch this winter? 30 to 40 max if you have a kid on a Bantam A team or coach one.

The question posed here is, "Who is the smartest Bantam A player in the state?" That question has not delivered much of a range of players, just 1 from Woodbury, who I will add is a very good player skill wise and mentally. Best in the state though? I can't answer that and neither can you.

If the question had been, "Who have you seen this winter that you think is the smartest Bantam A in the state?" I would say Lucas Kohls from Forest Lake. We have had the misfortune of seeing him 3 times this winter and he continues to make play after play without ever being out of position that I have seen. Is he the best in the state? Who knows, I don't, do you? I really don't think so.

I know I created an account yesterday but I am no rookie to this site. I have been reading it religeously for 2 years. Most of the topics that come through are informative and very interesting to see the different perspectives, this is not one of those topics. This topic is unanswerable.

HustleandFlow · Post by **HustleandFlow** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:29 pm

I stand corrected, I reread the question and it does specify think.

I am a big boy, I apologize.

I do stand by the premise of my words though, lets get some opinions and names from around the state. Even then there will be virtually no way to narrow this down to 1.

netminder.net · Post by **netminder.net** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:57 pm

HustleandFlow wrote

This topic is unanswerable

If this is the criteria for posting on this site, better "shut r' down" now!! Unless someone is asking specifically about the time/location of a game, the outcome of a game, the how many players are on a particular team, everything is definitively answerable. That is what this site is for, but I can understand if you think this one is better;
http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=19283

HustleandFlow wrote

I do stand by the premise of my words though, lets get some opinions and names from around the state. Even then there will be virtually no way to narrow this down to 1.

I think that is what we were doing, No???

HustleandFlow · Post by **HustleandFlow** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:07 pm

Ok netminder, prior to my long post we have 8 posts about JG from Woodbury whom I agree should be in the discussion. I brought up LK from Forest Lake. If giving opinions of many players that people have seen = 8 posts about JG then I stand corrected.

BTW.................Who would your vote got to on this topic?

dumbpuck · Post by **dumbpuck** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:36 pm

Easily the smartest player would be # 78 From Little falls. I have seen him 3 different times in The lobby of hotels beat the contestant on "who wants to be a millionaire" Have also talked with education scouts and the kid can solve math problems like no other - with very little practice!

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 7:41 pm

Someone is funny.

HustleandFlow · Post by **HustleandFlow** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 8:08 am

LionKing2 · Post by **LionKing2** » Wed Mar 04, 2009 11:00 pm

conditioningsucks wrote: Virtually all of the top 10 Bantam teams are being carried by '93s, yet we hear nothing about them.

I'm pretty sure that Wayzata, the top team in the state, is being carried by a 94...

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 6:33 am

LionKing2 wrote:
conditioningsucks wrote: Virtually all of the top 10 Bantam teams are being carried by '93s, yet we hear nothing about them.
I'm pretty sure that Wayzata, the top team in the state, is being carried by a 94...

Sorry, but Wayzata is being carried by 93s

mn man · Post by **mn man** » Thu Mar 12, 2009 6:18 pm

I trained my bantam player to fetch the paper each morning. Paper gets a little wet, but keeps me from having to go out in the cold in the morning! That's pretty smart eh?

Hoops · Post by **Hoops** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:33 am

starmvp wrote:
LionKing2 wrote:
conditioningsucks wrote: Virtually all of the top 10 Bantam teams are being carried by '93s, yet we hear nothing about them.
I'm pretty sure that Wayzata, the top team in the state, is being carried by a 94...
Sorry, but Wayzata is being carried by 93s

I believe Grant Besse is a 94. And AV's best player is a 95.

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Fri Mar 13, 2009 6:45 am

Hoops wrote:
starmvp wrote:
LionKing2 wrote: I'm pretty sure that Wayzata, the top team in the state, is being carried by a 94...
Sorry, but Wayzata is being carried by 93s
I believe Grant Besse is a 94. And AV's best player is a 95.

He is not Wayzata's best player.

LionKing2 · Post by **LionKing2** » Sat Mar 14, 2009 10:06 am

starmvp wrote:
Hoops wrote:
starmvp wrote: Sorry, but Wayzata is being carried by 93s
I believe Grant Besse is a 94. And AV's best player is a 95.
He is not Wayzata's best player.

I think that many people would disagree with you on that starmvp, I believe that Besse is leading Wayzata in points or is an extremely close second