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Post by Mite-dad »

lugnutguy21 wrote:
ironrangervhs09 wrote:
dherman8 wrote:The X has a bigger sheet of ice for Benny to work with.........just saying.
The bigger ice is going to have no factor in the game.
Little Falls Exchange Arena
1 ice sheet(s)

200ft x 85ft
650 seating capacity
Concrete base
Indirect refrigeration
Olympia resurfacer [ Propane ]

Xcel Energy Center
1 ice sheet(s)

200ft x 85ft
18,600 seating capacity
Concrete base
Indirect refrigeration
Zamboni resurfacer [ Propane ]

... Other than the seating and resurfacer ...
He meant the seating capacity. Little Falls will have 18,000 fans there which will be a big advantage. :wink:
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Post by koontz711 »

Mite-dad wrote:
koontz711 wrote:the small falls fliers are going to stuggle in this tourny. first of all they played a close game with fergus falls(9-16-1) in the semi finals although they won 5-2 at one point in the third it was 2-1. they also should have lost to alexc in the finals but got out of it with an overtime victory. little falls goalie will not be up to the challenge of the teams this year. without ben this team is lost
Good thing Ben is playing then! Plus, Alexandria is probably 2 or 3 goals better than Virginia, so I expect a 2 or 3 goal victory for the Flyers. I'm going 4-2.
i think that little falls will beat virginia being they already did this year. alex was a great team this year and could have bea little falls. little falls will beat virginia but after that the hill is to hard to climb
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Post by SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 »

lugnutguy21 wrote:
ironrangervhs09 wrote:
dherman8 wrote:The X has a bigger sheet of ice for Benny to work with.........just saying.
The bigger ice is going to have no factor in the game.
Little Falls Exchange Arena
1 ice sheet(s)

200ft x 85ft
650 seating capacity
Concrete base
Indirect refrigeration
Olympia resurfacer [ Propane ]

Xcel Energy Center
1 ice sheet(s)

200ft x 85ft
18,600 seating capacity
Concrete base
Indirect refrigeration
Zamboni resurfacer [ Propane ]

... Other than the seating and resurfacer ...

Well actually they are playing in a pro arena so the neutral zone is smaller and both the offensive and defensive zones are bigger. Unless they change that just for this tournament which I believe they do not.

A bigger offensive zone for Hano and the boys to work with = problems for Virginia.
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Post by GopherPuckPlayer »

SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:
lugnutguy21 wrote:
ironrangervhs09 wrote: The bigger ice is going to have no factor in the game.
Little Falls Exchange Arena
1 ice sheet(s)

200ft x 85ft
650 seating capacity
Concrete base
Indirect refrigeration
Olympia resurfacer [ Propane ]

Xcel Energy Center
1 ice sheet(s)

200ft x 85ft
18,600 seating capacity
Concrete base
Indirect refrigeration
Zamboni resurfacer [ Propane ]

... Other than the seating and resurfacer ...

Well actually they are playing in a pro arena so the neutral zone is smaller and both the offensive and defensive zones are bigger. Unless they change that just for this tournament which I believe they do not.

A bigger offensive zone for Hano and the boys to work with = problems for Virginia.
And whoever was at the tech game seen the LF players work the bigger ice to their advantage.
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Post by hshckfan08 »

SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:
lugnutguy21 wrote:
ironrangervhs09 wrote: The bigger ice is going to have no factor in the game.
Little Falls Exchange Arena
1 ice sheet(s)

200ft x 85ft
650 seating capacity
Concrete base
Indirect refrigeration
Olympia resurfacer [ Propane ]

Xcel Energy Center
1 ice sheet(s)

200ft x 85ft
18,600 seating capacity
Concrete base
Indirect refrigeration
Zamboni resurfacer [ Propane ]

... Other than the seating and resurfacer ...

Well actually they are playing in a pro arena so the neutral zone is smaller and both the offensive and defensive zones are bigger. Unless they change that just for this tournament which I believe they do not.

A bigger offensive zone for Hano and the boys to work with = problems for Virginia.
Ha dont forget Virginia has 2 guys with more than 55 pts while playing a tougher schedule.
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Post by shins »

This tournament is wide open, and Virginia could very well beat Little Falls, but I find it comical that people use the score of the Alex game to show how LF is not playing well right now.....

Alex lost to Little Falls (all by a goal), Cathedral by a goal, and Moorhead by 2. They were as high as #6 in the polls and ahead in Virginia in every poll I could find. Virginia is a solid team and could knock the Flyers off, but to pretend like Alex showed some weakness in the LF game is merely whistling in the dark
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Post by darkdemon »

shins wrote:This tournament is wide open, and Virginia could very well beat Little Falls, but I find it comical that people use the score of the Alex game to show how LF is not playing well right now.....

Alex lost to Little Falls (all by a goal), Cathedral by a goal, and Moorhead by 2. They were as high as #6 in the polls and ahead in Virginia in every poll I could find. Virginia is a solid team and could knock the Flyers off, but to pretend like Alex showed some weakness in the LF game is merely whistling in the dark
Agreed Alex is no slouch with great D and a great goaltender they also belong at the tourney this year!
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Post by scarface »

shins wrote:This tournament is wide open, and Virginia could very well beat Little Falls, but I find it comical that people use the score of the Alex game to show how LF is not playing well right now.....

Alex lost to Little Falls (all by a goal), Cathedral by a goal, and Moorhead by 2. They were as high as #6 in the polls and ahead in Virginia in every poll I could find. Virginia is a solid team and could knock the Flyers off, but to pretend like Alex showed some weakness in the LF game is merely whistling in the dark
I agree with Shins....to say that LF isn't playing well right now based upon a 3 - 2 OT victory over Alex in the Section final is ludicrous! Alex has a great team this year and one of the top if not THE top goalie(s) in the state! LF beat this team 3 times this year and from what I've heard, the Section final game showed some fortitude by LF to come back from being down most of the game to win it in OT. If you want to make the argument that they didn't look good in the Section game against Fergus, that's another point. Every team can come out flat in any game, especially against an opponent that they dominated in a previous game.

I don't think that any team will score more than 4 goals on LF Defense and Sperl who has played well this year. With LF firepower (3 players over 50 points at 2/3rds of the way into the season!) I think that they will make a run to the finals this year. But this is all speculation based on past performance....that's why they play the game.
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Post by SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 »

This is for the the fans of the LF hockey team.

GOOD LUCK AT STATE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b9DwOn4fF0
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Post by Gopher Blog »

I wouldn't underestimate the Blue Devils. On paper, it may look like Little Falls should be a big favorite but Virginia has been playing very well, has good special teams play, a pretty deep team, and they have far less pressure on them.

The main thing that could hamper Virginia is they don't have the same state tourney experience that Little Falls does. If they let the nerves get to them and come out slow, then they could have problems.

But if the Blue Devils don't allow the stage to get to them, I would not be the least bit shocked to see them win this game.
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Post by gwos8301 »

Ok enough with the without hano LF is lost. Yea hano is great hes proved that. But it was section playoffs everyteam turns it up a knotch. Why didn't STA make it to the X this year. LF is the most experienced team in the State Tourney this year. 5 straight apperances. And i think that a lot of seniors this year, who most of all of them been playing at the X since their sophmore year have a bitter taste from last year losing to STA in the quater finals. Let me remind you that Hano had STA backs to the wall and LF gave STA the biggest challange during the Tourney last year.STA blew everyone out of the water except the FLyers. They Are the only team that put up a good game against STA!
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Post by mnhockey22 »

hshckfan08 wrote:
SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:
lugnutguy21 wrote: Little Falls Exchange Arena
1 ice sheet(s)

200ft x 85ft
650 seating capacity
Concrete base
Indirect refrigeration
Olympia resurfacer [ Propane ]

Xcel Energy Center
1 ice sheet(s)

200ft x 85ft
18,600 seating capacity
Concrete base
Indirect refrigeration
Zamboni resurfacer [ Propane ]

... Other than the seating and resurfacer ...

Well actually they are playing in a pro arena so the neutral zone is smaller and both the offensive and defensive zones are bigger. Unless they change that just for this tournament which I believe they do not.

A bigger offensive zone for Hano and the boys to work with = problems for Virginia.
Ha dont forget Virginia has 2 guys with more than 55 pts while playing a tougher schedule.
Are you seriously trying to brag about Virginia's schedule??? Virginia is ranked as having the 81st toughest schedule while Little Falls is not far behind them at 85. I really don't think that you can pull the strength of schedule card here.
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Post by dherman8 »

SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:This is for the the fans of the LF hockey team.

GOOD LUCK AT STATE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b9DwOn4fF0
Awesome job.
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Post by hshckfan08 »

mnhockey22 wrote:
hshckfan08 wrote:
SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:
Well actually they are playing in a pro arena so the neutral zone is smaller and both the offensive and defensive zones are bigger. Unless they change that just for this tournament which I believe they do not.

A bigger offensive zone for Hano and the boys to work with = problems for Virginia.
Ha dont forget Virginia has 2 guys with more than 55 pts while playing a tougher schedule.
Are you seriously trying to brag about Virginia's schedule??? Virginia is ranked as having the 81st toughest schedule while Little Falls is not far behind them at 85. I really don't think that you can pull the strength of schedule card here.
Ya you caught me, i was bragging about virginia's schedule. :roll: I was simply saying that virginia has scorers too, so having a big ice sheet isnt going to be solely to little falls benefit. Read everything next time. And find something i said about schedules that arent true...
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mnhockey22 wrote:Are you seriously trying to brag about Virginia's schedule??? Virginia is ranked as having the 81st toughest schedule while Little Falls is not far behind them at 85. I really don't think that you can pull the strength of schedule card here.
If those rankings are accurate, then there is a huge drop between 81 and 85. It doesn't take a genius to see the difference in schedules.

Take out the cream-puffs and here's who Virginia has played:

Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
Little Falls
Grand Rapids
International Falls
Hopkins
Duluth Denfeld
Hermantown
Spring Lake Park
Albert Lea
Rochester Mayo
Hibbing/Chisholm
International Falls
Duluth Marshall
Hibbing/Chisholm
Duluth Marshall
Hibbing/Chisholm

Little Falls doesn't come close to this.
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Post by MNHockey75 »

Should be a good game. The Flyers will score more than one goal this time around. Sperl needs to be the difference maker. I like the Flyers. FLYERS 4, BLUE DEVILS 1 (en)

How many points will this guy be able to put up this year at the X?
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MNHockey75 wrote:Should be a good game. The Flyers will score more than one goal this time around. Sperl needs to be the difference maker. I like the Flyers. FLYERS 4, BLUE DEVILS 1 (en)

How many points will this guy be able to put up this year?
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Well I think big Ben only needs 5 more pts to clear 400 career pts.
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Post by SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 »

dherman8 wrote:
SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:This is for the the fans of the LF hockey team.

GOOD LUCK AT STATE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b9DwOn4fF0
Awesome job.
Just to clarify I did not make the video. The person who made it told me about it yesterday, and I thought it was good enough to post, so I did.
You are right though the person who did make it did a fantastic job.
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Post by GopherPuckPlayer »

SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:
dherman8 wrote:
SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:This is for the the fans of the LF hockey team.

GOOD LUCK AT STATE!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b9DwOn4fF0
Awesome job.
Just to clarify I did not make the video. The person who made it told me about it yesterday, and I thought it was good enough to post, so I did.
You are right though the person who did make it did a fantastic job.
Heck ya awesome job!
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Post by jonnyselanne8 »

Puckranger makes a great point about strength of schedule. Little Falls is a great team, but more than 3/4s of its schedule was against very weak teams. Virginia's losses were to the following: Cloquet-E-C (a Class 2A state entrant last season) in the opening game of the season, an overtime loss in which the Blue Devils hit several posts and outshot the Lumberjacks handily; Little Falls in their second game of the season, the only game in which Hanowski did not register a point; at International Falls in their fifth game; Hermantown (the Section 5A runner-up to Cathedral); and at Hibbing in an ugly penalty-filled game. Virginia avenged the losses to International Falls (5-2) and Hibbing (7-1).

Virginia's only loss since Dec. 23 was at Hibbing, and it bounced back to beat them twice - the running-time game in the regular season finale and in the section finals. In other words, the Blue Devils are 18-1 since a 5-4 start. Three players who played during that slow start are no longer on the squad and have been replaced by three up-and-coming sophomores who have only gotten much better as the year has gone on.

As Puckranger also noted in an earlier post, the No. 2, 3 and 4 lines for Virginia have not allowed a goal since a fluke with 10 seconds left in running time against Eveleth-Gilbert on Jan. 30. It has been more than two months since they have been scored on other than that. At even strength, the Blue Devils just do not give up many scoring opportunities, and when they come, it is usually against the attacking No. 1 line.

An interesting side note: It could have been a Virginia player whose scoring title Hanowski was chasing/breaking this season. Had Nico Sacchetti not played in the USHL last year, the current Gopher would likely have broken the state mark himself. As it is, not having Sacchetti last season is likely a blessing in disguise for this Virginia team. The Blue Devils would have heavily relied on the Sacchetti line last year and a lot of the younger players who are stepping up this season would not have gained valuable ice time.

I've written about and done the radio broadcasts for this Virginia team all season. (I'm a Ranger, but not a Virginia alum. I have covered Iron Range hockey for many years, including the 1998 state champion Eveleth-Gilbert and the 2005 Virginia team.) That said, they are a far better team than they were early in the season. The lines have solidified and coach Keith Hendrickson has been rotating them regularly. The No. 2, 3, and 4 teams all have a nice combination of speed, checking ability and scoring potential. They are hungry, they grind and wear you out. That opens up opportunities for the high-scoring first line of Chris Westin, Garrett Hendrickson and Andrew Judnick. The five defensemen are all solid on the defensive end, and junior Jordan Kresbach (17 goals) is a scorer. The Devils will miss junior defenseman Christian Belobaba, who broke his wrist in the final seconds of the section final, but the other four are playing well. And Will Lustig is very calm and solid in net, his only flaw being that he plays the puck a little two much sometimes. In Virginia's current 12-game winning streak, his GAA is 1.33 and save percentage around .950. Oh, and every player on the Virginia active roster has at least three goals except defenseman Nathan Dahl, so every line can put the puck in the net.

Much respect to unbeaten Little Falls, but this is not the team it played early this season. The Blue Devils are deep and playing with a ton of confidence and all their kids watched the team reach state for the first time ever in 2005 and shouldn't have that starry-eyed look of four years ago. The 2005 team, while it featured Matt Niskanen and Sacchetti, had more of a happy-to-be-here attitude, inferior goaltending and a lack of depth. I believe it will be different this time around.

Virginia/MI-B 4,
Little Falls 3
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Post by SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 »

I will say this about the people who post on here for Virginia . . . they are long winded.
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Post by jonnyselanne8 »

SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:I will say this about the people who post on here for Virginia . . . they are long winded.
I'm a writer. It happens. Just giving some decent analysis because there seem to be some people on here that just throw out half-cocked comments without knowing what they're talking about.
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Post by Bigfan »

I agree, they are trying hard to sell it. I'm not buying!!
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Post by SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 »

jonnyselanne8 wrote:
SCSUHOCKEYFAN15 wrote:I will say this about the people who post on here for Virginia . . . they are long winded.
I'm a writer. It happens. Just giving some decent analysis because there seem to be some people on here that just throw out half-cocked comments without knowing what they're talking about.
I know, I am just giving you and some others a hard time. It was a very good post. I disagree with the outcome that you have, but I do believe it will be a very close game. Maybe even OT?!
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jonnyselanne8 wrote:Puckranger makes a great point about strength of schedule. Little Falls is a great team, but more than 3/4s of its schedule was against very weak teams. Virginia's losses were to the following: Cloquet-E-C (a Class 2A state entrant last season) in the opening game of the season, an overtime loss in which the Blue Devils hit several posts and outshot the Lumberjacks handily; Little Falls in their second game of the season, the only game in which Hanowski did not register a point; at International Falls in their fifth game; Hermantown (the Section 5A runner-up to Cathedral); and at Hibbing in an ugly penalty-filled game. Virginia avenged the losses to International Falls (5-2) and Hibbing (7-1).

Virginia's only loss since Dec. 23 was at Hibbing, and it bounced back to beat them twice - the running-time game in the regular season finale and in the section finals. In other words, the Blue Devils are 18-1 since a 5-4 start. Three players who played during that slow start are no longer on the squad and have been replaced by three up-and-coming sophomores who have only gotten much better as the year has gone on.

As Puckranger also noted in an earlier post, the No. 2, 3 and 4 lines for Virginia have not allowed a goal since a fluke with 10 seconds left in running time against Eveleth-Gilbert on Jan. 30. It has been more than two months since they have been scored on other than that. At even strength, the Blue Devils just do not give up many scoring opportunities, and when they come, it is usually against the attacking No. 1 line.

An interesting side note: It could have been a Virginia player whose scoring title Hanowski was chasing/breaking this season. Had Nico Sacchetti not played in the USHL last year, the current Gopher would likely have broken the state mark himself. As it is, not having Sacchetti last season is likely a blessing in disguise for this Virginia team. The Blue Devils would have heavily relied on the Sacchetti line last year and a lot of the younger players who are stepping up this season would not have gained valuable ice time.

I've written about and done the radio broadcasts for this Virginia team all season. (I'm a Ranger, but not a Virginia alum. I have covered Iron Range hockey for many years, including the 1998 state champion Eveleth-Gilbert and the 2005 Virginia team.) That said, they are a far better team than they were early in the season. The lines have solidified and coach Keith Hendrickson has been rotating them regularly. The No. 2, 3, and 4 teams all have a nice combination of speed, checking ability and scoring potential. They are hungry, they grind and wear you out. That opens up opportunities for the high-scoring first line of Chris Westin, Garrett Hendrickson and Andrew Judnick. The five defensemen are all solid on the defensive end, and junior Jordan Kresbach (17 goals) is a scorer. The Devils will miss junior defenseman Christian Belobaba, who broke his wrist in the final seconds of the section final, but the other four are playing well. And Will Lustig is very calm and solid in net, his only flaw being that he plays the puck a little two much sometimes. In Virginia's current 12-game winning streak, his GAA is 1.33 and save percentage around .950. Oh, and every player on the Virginia active roster has at least three goals except defenseman Nathan Dahl, so every line can put the puck in the net.

Much respect to unbeaten Little Falls, but this is not the team it played early this season. The Blue Devils are deep and playing with a ton of confidence and all their kids watched the team reach state for the first time ever in 2005 and shouldn't have that starry-eyed look of four years ago. The 2005 team, while it featured Matt Niskanen and Sacchetti, had more of a happy-to-be-here attitude, inferior goaltending and a lack of depth. I believe it will be different this time around.

Virginia/MI-B 4,
Little Falls 3
Nice information, thank you. I do believe that Little Falls can, did(this season) and will grind and wear you out. I do know Little Falls played a schedule with less great teams than some others (namely teams who didn't make the tourney :lol: ), I don't, however, believe that the Central Lakes Conference is so much inferior to the mighty Iron Range. Teams down this way can roll just the same as they can up there. Little Falls should be hungry in their fifth strait tourney without a seed in the championship game in their previous 4. What worries me about Little Falls' chances are that they, contrary to what many are saying, haven't been peaking right now, not the way they had been in previous years. Yes, Alezandria was a great team this year, Little Falls should've won by two or more, not OT, if they were peaking, (in my opinion). Yes Fergus Falls is a rival, I expected like 10 points against my Otters, not a pretty good game. Conversely, Virginia it seems IS peaking, and playing very well. This game should be good, before I expected a Little Falls rout if they were seeded, thus playing an unseeded team. Now I expect a game, not that the Flyers will lose, they only beat Virginia 1-0, but let's not forget, it was their 1st game of the year........[/i]
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