Peewee B1- Edina Green #1 all year

Garth · Post by **Garth** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 7:22 am

Check out the run by EP Black. Seven games in seven nights; five elimination games, including defeating Edina White. They play Edina Green again tonight.

http://www.district6hockey.net/playoffs/PB1.html

mplsparkpride7 · Post by **mplsparkpride7** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 2:27 pm

hockeyman84 wrote:you can never tell a kids full potential at peewees i know of one kid from Mpls/Park who played 2 years of peewee B1 went to the state tournament and the very next year jumped players who he was cut for and made the bantam A team. This year he is on the A team again and has another shot at state. Remember these kids in the future they could play major roles in bantams and varsity.

Tyler?

Wisconsinguy · Post by **Wisconsinguy** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 4:14 pm

Check out the run by EP Black. Seven games in seven nights; five elimination games, including defeating Edina White. They play Edina Green again tonight.

http://www.district6hockey.net/playoffs/PB1.html

Garth,

Eden Prairie should be proud of that run! A friend told me that they have played the same goalie in 7 straight games. I hope that is not true!?!

Garth · Post by **Garth** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 9:32 pm

Wisconsinguy wrote:Check out the run by EP Black. Seven games in seven nights; five elimination games, including defeating Edina White. They play Edina Green again tonight.

http://www.district6hockey.net/playoffs/PB1.html

Garth,

Eden Prairie should be proud of that run! A friend told me that they have played the same goalie in 7 straight games. I hope that is not true!?!

Absolutely not true. In fact, both goalies are strong. The #1 goalied played 4 of the 7 including the last 2. Tonight Edina Green was too much again beating EP Black 5-0 to take the District 6 title. The 2nd goalie played that game.

iseepalms · Post by **iseepalms** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:28 pm

What about Stillwater? I hear they have some players that did not make the "A" team because of the "Housley RULE".

Ozzie82 · Post by **Ozzie82** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:43 pm

To be fair Edina didn't have enough goalies to support three B1 teams. They do have three B2 teams but each team only has one goalie.

Garth · Post by **Garth** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 7:29 am

Ozzie82 wrote:To be fair Edina didn't have enough goalies to support three B1 teams. They do have three B2 teams but each team only has one goalie.

I may be wrong but from wha I could tell Edina Green only played one goalie much more than another. If so, they wouldn't need two top tier goalies and they may then have enough goalies for the 3rd team.

pwdad · Post by **pwdad** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 8:12 am

Completely false. They rotated goalies all year and both played very well. One didn't give up a goal in the league games he played, the other, who was on the Squirt A team both years, only gave up a couple. A third B1 would have been difficult with the drop-off in goalies after the four B1s. As is was, B1 White had to get a loaner B2 goalie to sit on the bench during districts due to a snowboarding accident to one of their goalies. There won't be three B1s next year either.

Ozzie82 · Post by **Ozzie82** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:53 am

pwdad wrote:Completely false. They rotated goalies all year and both played very well. One didn't give up a goal in the league games he played, the other, who was on the Squirt A team both years, only gave up a couple. A third B1 would have been difficult with the drop-off in goalies after the four B1s. As is was, B1 White had to get a loaner B2 goalie to sit on the bench during districts due to a snowboarding accident to one of their goalies. There won't be three B1s next year either.

Although next year there will be enough goalies to support 3 B1 teams. Whether there will be enough talent in those goalies, I don't know.

nofinish · Post by **nofinish** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 9:58 am

To be fair Edina didn't have enough goalies to support three B1 teams. They do have three B2 teams but each team only has one goalie.

To be fair to the Edina B2 skaters the Edina PeeWee's should have had 3 B1 teams. Edina B2 White team would have been a .500 B1 team with almost any decent goalie. Played them once this year and they had plenty of talent.

Toomuchtoosoon · Post by **Toomuchtoosoon** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:09 am

Sounds like a classic example of focussing on winning at the expense of development. Go with one goalie if you have to, but do not force skaters to go down a level because of this. You do not need two goalies all the time-there are provisions to allow for a back-up if there are injuries and sickness.

Also, by the end of the year, a B2 level goalie may develop into a B1 goalie if given the opportunity.

Ozzie82 · Post by **Ozzie82** » Fri Mar 06, 2009 11:59 pm

I'm not going to defend EHA when it comes to the decisions they've made that have emphasized winning over development. There is plenty to complain about there.

I disagree with pwdad about the dropoff after the four B1 goalies... like toomuchtoosoon I think given the opportunity a couple of the B2 guys could have been solid B1 goalies by the end of the year.

pwdad · Post by **pwdad** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 11:24 am

Perhaps, but remember that means two B2 goalies move up, and with 3 B2 teams, now you're moving up C Goalies. I would have had no problem with that, as it gets more kids playing at the B level. However, with 140 PW skaters, at some point the EHA would have run out of goalies.

Ozzie82 · Post by **Ozzie82** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 12:26 am

I agree with you there pwdad. That was my original point.

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 2:32 am

How many kids does Edina have in peewees including the inhouse teams?

pwdad · Post by **pwdad** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:35 am

1 A, 2 B1, 3 B2 and 3 C teams. About 135 skaters. 12 goalies.

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Tue Mar 10, 2009 1:50 pm

The A team is
43 - 11 - 1
Edina Green B1 is
45 -3 - 1
Edina White B1 is
33 - 11 - 1
Edina B2 Green is
25 - 10 - 3
To me you have at least 2 A level teams not 1. This is where minnesota hockey needs to step in and regulate this since your organization won't. Do you really think your son is playing at the right level? with a 45 - 3 - 1 record? come on This makes your program look bad. Everone is saying your team is at the wrong level of play. If you don't win state every year in the B1 division with 2 A level teams playing at the B1 level that will be an embarrassment to your organization. To me this is a slap in the face to all kids on the B1 teams. I will also say after watching the A team play and your Green team play. I would bet your team would win 5 - 2 over the A team.

My point is Play at the correct level and develop the kids.
But then you might only have a 28 - 18 - 3 record

Ozzie82 · Post by **Ozzie82** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 7:42 am

Jerry, to add to your argument the Edina Pee Wee B2 White is 30-1-2.

Edina tried adding another Squirt A team this year, but instead of keeping both teams even in talent they had a Squirt A1 and a Squirt A2. The result? The Squirt A1 team is unbeatable and the Squirt A2 has won very few games. So Edina finally bent to the pressure and tried to do the right thing, but in their desire to keep the association's winning reputation intact they screwed it up.

On another topic, I am very impressed with the quality of Burnsville's youth hockey association. They don't have the numbers of some of the surrounding suburbs, but they challenge for the championship in seemingly every level.

pwdad · Post by **pwdad** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 8:51 am

To clarify, this is not my son's team. I make no apologies for nor do I defend the decisions of the board. I think two As might have been okay, but the board said no. I was simply giving my observations.

Toomuchtoosoon · Post by **Toomuchtoosoon** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 9:03 am

Edina tried adding another Squirt A team this year, but instead of keeping both teams even in talent they had a Squirt A1 and a Squirt A2. The result? The Squirt A1 team is unbeatable and the Squirt A2 has won very few games.

When a board makes a decision to go with two A team, they need to understand that every year may be different. Last year, the Edina squirts dominated at both the A and B level. That group of kids could probably support 2 A teams. The current group of Edina squirts are not as deep, and they also have some squirt choice impact. Next year, Edina could easily field 2 competitive A teams at the PeeWee level. I would venture to guess if they split them evenly, they would be pleasantly suprised at the 30 kids development at the end of the year. Going A1 and A2 would also work, but that means their into trophy chasing more than player development and fun.

Having 75% of your games over before they start is detrimental to the kids development. The tweeners do not get challenged and develop bad habits since they are not challenged on a consistant basis.

Kenny needs to do the right thing with the peewees next year.

Jerry · Post by **Jerry** » Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:54 am

Your Board should not be allowed to make that decision next year. Minnesota Hockey should step in and take control of this. But then Minnesota hockey only talks about things and does nothing but collect money.

slapshot44 · Post by **slapshot44** » Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:24 pm

Edina green lost to elk river 5-2 in the state championship.