The case for B1 in girls

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Hockeydaddy
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The case for B1 in girls

Post by Hockeydaddy »

With numbers going up every year in Girls hockey, it has become increasingly obvious that a new level is needed. Communities who don't have the numbers for an A team, communities with too many players would be great candidates for a B1 league. Edina's attempt to roll two U12A teams was interesting, but that community might have been better served by two B1 teams. Wayzata could certainly do a B1 team, as could Eden Prairie, Lakeville, OMG, Centennial. Places like Mahtomedi, Proctor with no A team would be better suited to play B1s. There are many 12A teams that probably shouldn't have been A teams, they could play B1.

How many teams do you think they could find at B1, just say in U12?
mnhcp
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Post by mnhcp »

Dummy here. Is B1 just an in between A and B?

Because of this same issue, I also think MN Hockey and associations should be more open minded to opening things up for girls as they do in soccer. So complicated. Our association model works pretty good for boys but so horribly for many girls. For those who don't understand I'm refering to numbers and talent.
drop the puck
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Post by drop the puck »

It is time. If the numbers warrant.

Since we cannot use "C", then A, B1, and B2 work.

B1 can be for associations that do not play "A" or are so strong that they their B teams are strong too such as Centennial, Edina, Eden Prairie, etc...

Associations with weaker (depth) girls programs such as White Bear or associations that split "B" teams by ability such as Highland can choose to put their team in the B2 Division.
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Post by royals dad »

I can see the posts allready "they only beat us because they have a B2 with no B1" or a "B1 with no A". It would not change anything small associations will still have a diverse set of talent. Some A players and some B2 players, all on the same team. Big associaitons will still be cutting girls who were on the bubble and could easily skate up.

I see people trying to fix the fact that thier daughters team lost. I have not seen a post yet that said thier player did not get a chance to get better or have fun this season because of this. Parents need to accept that with our states geographic and economic diversity there will be some mismatches, it is just a fact of life. We are still the best place in the world for a girls who loves hockey to grow up (nothing against Quebec but they put gravey on french fries).
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Post by Homer »

In a perfect world, it would be nice to see.

Hockey being a team sport, I don't like to watch 4-5 girls dominate a team because they have the talent to play at the A level. While the B level players watch the majority of a close game from the bench. That way the coach and the girls get the win. I have seen this over the years when my daughter played at the B level.

For me it takes away a little from the spirit of youth sports. I don't know if the numbers are there statewide yet. I wouldn't want to see 15-20 teams statewide at three levels either though. Imagine the travel.

I guess I just enjoy a good competitive game. With everyone getting to play.
luckyDad
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Post by luckyDad »

Homer wrote:Hockey being a team sport, I don't like to watch 4-5 girls dominate a team because they have the talent to play at the A level. While the B level players watch the majority of a close game from the bench. That way the coach and the girls get the win. I have seen this over the years when my daughter played at the B level.

For me it takes away a little from the spirit of youth sports. I don't know if the numbers are there statewide yet. I wouldn't want to see 15-20 teams statewide at three levels either though. Imagine the travel.

I guess I just enjoy a good competitive game. With everyone getting to play.
Coaches who run a short bench do a disservice to their players, their association and eventually their high school team. My daughter has been both a top B player and a bottom A player. Luckily each time her coaches worked hard to develop the entire team instead of focusing on the win/loss record.

Playing in the state tournament was fun, but not as much fun as watching the team develop. At the start of the season I would not have picked EP to be a 12B state tournament team. Now I see glimpses into a future two or three years from now where our great depth makes EP a powerful home grown force in girls high school hockey.

Look out Edina. We're coming back!
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