2009 advanced 15

watchdog · Post by **watchdog** » Sun May 03, 2009 10:18 am

just remember they could only take 102 kids. that doesn't mean those that didn't get on the roster this time are not good hockey players. its a good experience for all the kids that took part and will help them perform under pressure in future situations.

CB00 · Post by **CB00** » Mon May 04, 2009 9:48 pm

Some players I know that made it to St. Cloud out of D10:

F Lambert Blaine
F Lovick Centennial
F Roo Coon Rapids
F Gorowsky Centennial
F Misek Coon Rapids
D Manthey Anoka
D Herlofsky Spring Lake Park (Hill)
G Franke Elk River
G Malvin Blaine

Post by **karl(east)** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:07 pm

Does anyone have a more complete list? That'd be helpful.

eastsideguy · Post by **eastsideguy** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:22 pm

D6 was as follows

Michaelson AV
Olson AV
Lang AV
Commers STA(Edina)
Coatta MTKA
Johnson-MTKA
Hunt Jefferson
Janco Jefferson
Smith Jefferson
Anderson Bville
Regan Waconia

puckboy · Post by **puckboy** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:24 pm

weird that the girls list has been posted for a week or so and not the boy's. Festivals were both held the same weekend. Whats the hold up.

Doglover · Post by **Doglover** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:39 pm

They post the boys' list - it's just confusing because they use their numbers. Not sure the logic behind it. Maybe it makes it more challenging to piece together who made it over the ones who did not.

Jimbo99 · Post by **Jimbo99** » Tue May 05, 2009 12:54 pm

Doglover wrote:They post the boys' list - it's just confusing because they use their numbers. Not sure the logic behind it. Maybe it makes it more challenging to piece together who made it over the ones who did not.

Where?

puckboy · Post by **puckboy** » Wed May 06, 2009 11:11 am

Elliot: I know you are not in charge of this but can you check with someone at MN Hockey to see when the list will be posted. Girls list has been posted for over a week.

thanks in advance.

Doglover · Post by **Doglover** » Thu May 07, 2009 9:09 am

Sorry, my mistake. Just the district teams posted and listed by number.

The Observer · Post by **The Observer** » Thu May 07, 2009 12:08 pm

I'd really like to see the team rosters for St. Cloud. I think it would be interesting to see which kids they put together and for what reasons.

auld_skool · Post by **auld_skool** » Thu May 07, 2009 1:41 pm

http://minnesotahockey.org/assorted/Boy ... osters.pdf

puckboy · Post by **puckboy** » Thu May 07, 2009 2:15 pm

thanks for the post-

how are these teams put together- ?

Iceburg · Post by **Iceburg** » Thu May 07, 2009 8:33 pm

Chase Broten - Aaron's son?
Jacob Bischoff - Grant's son?

dumbpuck · Post by **dumbpuck** » Thu May 07, 2009 9:02 pm

Chase Broten - Aaron's son?
Jacob Bischoff - Grant's son?

NO and YES to the previous post

The Observer · Post by **The Observer** » Thu May 07, 2009 9:51 pm

2009 Minnesota Advanced 15 Summer Festival Roster

Name Team

GOALIES
Coffman, Christian Duluth Denfeld JV
Erickson, Josh Woodbury Ban.
Franke, Anders Elk River HS Varsity
Skoog, Paige Forest Lake Ban.
Cates, Blake Tartan Ban.
Jecha, Anders Mpls./Park Ban.
Hayton, Kyle Shattuck Ban.
Malvin, Nick Blaine HS V.
Kautz, Brock Rochester Ban.
Kenney, Jack Breck HS JV
Berquist, Joey Pequot Lakes Ban.
Olson, Colin Apple Valley Ban.

DEFENSE
Dolby Aaron Osseo Maple Grove Ban.
Carney, Lance White Bear Lake Ban.
Espelien, Austin Tartan Ban.
Kautz, Brandon Rochester Ban.
Janco, Ian Jefferson Ban.
Kotter, Nate Duluth East JV
Johnson, Steve Minnetonka Ban.
Lindberg, Joey Woodbury Ban.
Peterson, Jake St. Cloud Tech. JV
McQueen, Zack Shattuck Ban.
Robideaux, Tanner Cloquet Ban.
Moore, Miers Duluth East Ban.
Anderson, Hunter Burnsville Ban.
Aspinwall, Drew Osseo/Maple Grove Ban.
Eichstadt, Dillon Bemidji Ban.
Burg, Tyler Crow River Ban.
Griffith, William Mound-Westonka Ban.
Herlofsky, andrew Hill Murray HS JV
Johnson, Jonah Hill Murray HS V/JV
Olson, Kyle Wayzata Ban.
Klein, Sam Buffalo HS V
Timm, Hayden Warroad Ban.
Regan, Gunnar Waconia HS V.
Zeleznikar, Jacob Hermantown Ban.
Bittner, Ryan Crookston Ban.
Halverson, Matt Wayzata Ban.
Forney, Christopher Thief River Falls Ban.
Heller, Charles Lakeville Ban.
Johnson, Adam Hibbing Ban.
Horton, Jacob Benilde St. Margaret HS
Lang, Sean Apple Valley Ban.
Manthey, Kristian Anoka Ban.
Mortenson, Cole Blaine Ban.
Skjei, Brady Lakeville N. HS
Pilot, Matt S. St. Paul HS
Stumpf, Matt Little Falls Ban.

FORWARDS
Anderson, Nicholas Stillwater Ban
Gorowsky, Hans Centennial Ban.
Besse, Grant Wayzata Ban.
Jancze, Jordan Shattuck Ban.
Holum, Reid Grand Rapids Ban.
Lavelle, Zach Hill Murray HS V/JV
Hughes, Michael Roseville Ban.
Lovick, Adam Centennial Ban.
Jacobs, Dominic Rochester Ban.
Mason, Alex Osseo/Maple Grove Ban.
Montgomery, Jacob Shattuck Ban. 1
McFadden, Patrick St. Thomas HS JV
Nitti, Dominic Cottage Grove Ban.
Paulson, Tony Osseo/Maple Grove Ban.
Smith, CJ Jefferson Ban.
Pieper, Daniel Shattuck Ban.
Vesel, Tyler Rochester Ban.
Randolph, Jake Duluth East Ban.
Barral, Peter Shattuck Ban.
Abbott, Tom St. Thomas HS JV/V
Brenk, Eric Moorhead Ban.
Broten, Chase Roseau Ban.
Ellegard, Tyler Armstrong Cooper Ban.
Ferderer, Kip Highland Ban.
Lambert, Dylan Blaine Ban.
Holappa, Steven Duluth East Ban.
Larson, Jake St. Michael-Albertville Ban.
Lawdermilt, Zachary East Grand Forks Ban.
Michaelson, AJ Apple Valley HS V
Mattson, Andrew Hermantown Ban.
Newman, Ben Little Falls Ban.
O'Borsky, Jake Red Wing HS
Serratore, Matt Bemidji Ban.
Osterberg, Kyle Lakeville S. Ban.
Steman, Dylan Buffalo Ban.
Torrell, Gage Monticello HS V.
Bischoff, Jacob Grand Rapids Ban.
Arentz, Nate Lakeville N. HS
Daugherty, Jeff Totino Grace HS JV
Beckers, Kody Northfield HS
Franklin, Clinston Forest Lake Ban.
Campion, Kyle Duluth East Ban.
Hallenberg, Blake Wayzata Ban.
Coatta, Max Minnetonka Ban.
Horton, Jacob Tartan Ban.
Commers, Andrew St. Thomas HS JV/V
Hunt, Austin Jefferson Ban.
Gaustad, Peter Fergus Falls Ban.
Lofstuen, David Duluth East Ban.
Masserano, Ches Armstrong Cooper Ban.
Micek, Jack Coon Rapids Ban.
Roo, Tyler Coon Rapids Ban.
Thomas, Jared Hermantown Ban.
Talarico, Levi Duluth Denfeld HS V.

Now look at those from MN who are on the USHL list who are also on this list, and vice versa.

puckhead21 · Post by **puckhead21** » Fri May 08, 2009 9:13 am

Error on Goalie "Cates, Blake Tartan Ban. "
Blake is from Stillwater Ban

surehockey · Post by **surehockey** » Fri May 08, 2009 9:20 am

how many go to NY? Also, anyone already make the national team?

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Fri May 08, 2009 9:23 am

Forest lake had 2 WBL 1 selected...the worm has begun to turn...Go Rangers

Jimbo99 · Post by **Jimbo99** » Fri May 08, 2009 9:38 am

=Now look at those from MN who are on the USHL list who are also on this list, and vice versa.

Hasn't that subject been beat to death?

I'd say there are a fair number on both lists (which one would expect) and a fair amount of differences (which, I think, is good and also expected based on how the lists are determined).

They're young. The lists will change. Enjoy it. It doesn't last long.

ctbrow1 · Post by **ctbrow1** » Fri May 08, 2009 9:47 am

Does anyone know if Jacob Horton from Benilde skated that weekend? I was under the impression he had a broken collarbone.

Ultimately, if you don't skate at the evaluation, how do you make the team? I don't want to seem callous, but if you are not there how can you make the cut. I am not disputing the talent in this young man, just the decision that was made. This throws gasoline on the conspiracy theorists fire.

Jimbo99 · Post by **Jimbo99** » Fri May 08, 2009 9:58 am

ctbrow1 wrote:Does anyone know if Jacob Horton from Benilde skated that weekend? I was under the impression he had a broken collarbone.

Ultimately, if you don't skate at the evaluation, how do you make the team? I don't want to seem callous, but if you are not there how can you make the cut. I am not disputing the talent in this young man, just the decision that was made. This throws gasoline on the conspiracy theorists fire.

My understanding was it was broken after the evaluations. I imagine there will be an alternate in St. Cloud either way. Someone else verify that?

Tenoverpar · Post by **Tenoverpar** » Fri May 08, 2009 10:03 am

CT,

Do you believe that the Horton kid is one of the top 102 players in the 94 birth year, in Minnesota?

That's the question, regardless of his playing or not playing the final weekend of 15's, when he was on the ice at the district tryout and practicing and playing the play-in games, did he earn a spot.

If you know the player, you'd certainly say he belongs, irregardless.

conditioningsucks · Post by **conditioningsucks** » Fri May 08, 2009 10:08 am

[quote="ctbrow1"]Does anyone know if Jacob Horton from Benilde skated that weekend? I was under the impression he had a broken collarbone.

Ultimately, if you don't skate at the evaluation, how do you make the team? I don't want to seem callous, but if you are not there how can you make the cut. I am not disputing the talent in this young man, just the decision that was made. This throws gasoline on the conspiracy theorists fire.[/quote]

Let's see, Sidney Crosby breaks his collar bone four practices into tryouts for the Penguins and six weeks later someone has a beef when he shows up and is automatically put on the team.

Not that Horton is Sidney Crosby, but all involved (kids, coaches, parents, etc.) know that he is probably in the top ten D-men in the state. He is not a 'bubble kid'.

If I understand, he did participate in early tryouts and broke his collarbone in one of the seeding games for the festival. Coaches probably got enough looks in practices and in the seeding games to determine that he was among District 3's strongest players.

No conspiracy there. If you were a marginal player and got injured --- sorry, but you aren't going to get the benefit of the doubt like Horton did.

observer · Post by **observer** » Fri May 08, 2009 10:43 am

It does mean there are politics and personal contacts involved. He wasn't at the Festival which is where the players were told the evaluating, and selecting, would occur.

conditioningsucks · Post by **conditioningsucks** » Fri May 08, 2009 11:14 am

[quote="observer"]It does mean there are politics and personal contacts involved. He wasn't at the Festival which is where the players were told the evaluating, and selecting, would occur.[/quote]

Call it politics or call it 'doing the right thing'. At the end of the day, does this kid belong there or not?

Yes, a marginal player would not have got this benefit of the doubt.

Were the players told that ALL of the evaluating would go on at the festival? I don't think that is how it works. Was something published to parents that said ALL of the evaluating would go on at the festival? I don't believe so. Does the program have prior history of taking injured players that were highly recommended ---- my bet is yes, this is hockey and gets do get injured from time to time.

I think coaches run practices for several weeks, play some seeding games, and provide the A15 program with their 'watch lists' based on what they saw going into the festival. If a coach had someone who was very talented who got injured, I would believe they could put a word in for that player. In this case they did.

Had a very marginal player been injured and still selected and there was an over involved parent visibly working the process/coaches/evaluators --- I would call that politics and bad for the A15 program. Don't see that here.