Tenders

[rinkratman]

who has been tenderd in the NAHL, because they cant be in the draft if they are tenderd right?

[southernmnscout]

who has been tenderd in the NAHL, because they cant be in the draft if they are tenderd right?

I also was looking for a list of NAHL tenders but was not able to come up with it this year. Anyone??

[The Exiled One]

who has been tenderd in the NAHL, because they cant be in the draft if they are tenderd right?

That's probably true. I know two players from a particular school that have tendered, neither was drafted.

[SCC2009]

can someone explain what being tendered means and what kind of league the NAHL is?

[2pipesnin]

Tenders occur prior to the draft. Those players that were on a team last year but were not protected not (tendered) are available to be drafted. That is why you see a few players that were drafted actually came from a different NAHL Team. Those players that were drafted can not tryout for any other NAHL team. Those players that were NOT drafted may tryout for any NAHL, USHL or MJHL team.

Remember, just because a player was tendered or drafted does not mean they made the team. They still have a rough road ahead of them during the tryout camps.

[2pipesnin]

Another interesting draft outcome this year.....15 mn hight school players drafted (not counting the 5 from Shattuck) and 13 players from last years USHL have decided to play in the NAHL this year. It's amazing that the talent pool has spread out all over the country now. And the number of scouts around the country as well.

[rinkrat555]

go here for more info
http://www.nahl.com/players/DraftFAQ.cfm

[southernmnscout]

can someone explain what being tendered means and what kind of league the NAHL is?

So you have no idea what kind of league it is yet you are calling it a "junior D league"?

If you don't know what you are talking about, do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut!!!

[Vulture]

can someone explain what being tendered means and what kind of league the NAHL is?

So you have no idea what kind of league it is yet you are calling it a "junior D league"?

If you don't know what you are talking about, do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut!!!

[gomnhky]

...and 13 players from last years USHL have decided to play in the NAHL this year. "

I don't know that that is necessarily the case. I would not put a lot of stock in the USHL players that have been drafted - some maybe - but certainly not others. It is my understanding that the players that are tendered in the NAHL are the ones that are more likely to attend try-outs and make the roster of the team. The drafted players can be much more of a hit and miss and to a certain degree "wishful thinking" and are taken as "flyers" as teams may want to hold their rights for whatever reasons. Many of these players are not even contacted prior to being drafted and probably will never attend a try-out. Just glancing at the overall list of drafted players, some were also drafted (futures or entry) in the USHL and should have a good chance of making a USHL team's final roster.

I was wondering if anyone could shed light as to why the tendered players seem to be such a guarded secret or does it just appear that way. That is the list that would be more interesting to see.

[nickel slots]

Make no mistake about it, the kids that are drafted by the NAHL from the USHL are drafted for a reason... the NAHL guys are resourceful and are able to get a feel from the USHL teams which kids will make their teams and which kids won't. As inhumane as it may seem, when a USHL team decides that a kid is no longer an asset to them, they are not shy about sharing their sentiments with the NAHL teams that inquire.

Where there's smoke, there's fire.

[2pipesnin]

Correct Nickel - Players that did not see much ice time in the USHL last year see the writing on the wall and need ice time so they play in the NAHL. Both leagues and all the teams are very well connected. Players are shuffled prior to the draft, during the draft, and all season long until February when rosters must be locked. During the season any one team will see 15 to 25 players come and go from their rosters. Juniors is a business and good hockey players are a dime a dozen!

Gomnhky - It's interesting you mention that "many players are not even contacted prior to being drafted. This is very true, and is not required. However, the NAHL team that drafted them do own the players rights. The USHL futures draft has that players future rights. USHL future drafts will not play juniors for one to two years.

Tenders.....Teams can only tender about 8 players each year. Some teams have more or less tenders because they my have traded a player for a tender in the previous year. So many teams do not want to publish their tender lists which will allow other teams to draft players on their team that are not protected (tendered).
Hope this helps.

[SCC2009]

can someone explain what being tendered means and what kind of league the NAHL is?

So you have no idea what kind of league it is yet you are calling it a "junior D league"?

If you don't know what you are talking about, do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut!!!

thanks, now i know what kind of league it is...it's that crappy one i was thinking of that alex plays in....

i know what i am talking about...have seen them play, had to leave, it was THAT BAD

[justwatchin]

Some of you seem to be very knowledgeable with the exception of the last post.

My son was offered tenders with 2 different teams one in the NAHL and one in the SIJH league. He turned both down prior to the draft and the location of the teams. He still is considering both teams being they have both have still been in contact. What can you tell me about the new Canadian league and of the following NAHL teams. Alaska Avalanch, Bismarck and Topeka.

I do know there were a couple players from the 8's that took tenders with Alaska during the Showcase. Rendle tendered with Bismarck and the new Janeseville team picked up Mausolf from Marshall. Janesville posted some of their tenders in their local paper. Dalbec from Superior was tendered and there were 3-4 others from WI.

The USHL- the "invite" tryouts how many actually make it through to the roster with the returning players and draft picks? One team pointed out they can not possibly scout every player and miss out on players they have seen once or twice.

[nickel slots]

can someone explain what being tendered means and what kind of league the NAHL is?

So you have no idea what kind of league it is yet you are calling it a "junior D league"?

If you don't know what you are talking about, do us all a favor and keep your mouth shut!!!

thanks, now i know what kind of league it is...it's that crappy one i was thinking of that alex plays in....

i know what i am talking about...have seen them play, had to leave, it was THAT BAD

Somebody's a little high on their horse, aren't they? In regards to junior hockey, the USHL is the best league in the US, hands down. They are the primary feeder for Division I NCAA hockey. The 2nd best league is the NAHL (arguably). They are the secondary feeder to DI. If you thought it was THAT BAD, I'd say your expectations were unrealistic.

You can't go to a Saints game and expect to see baseball comparable to the Majors.

[2pipesnin]

I am not familiar with any "new" Canadian league.

All the NAHL teams are good organizations. The three you mentioned had good years last year and your son would be lucky to play for anyone of them. Avelanch and BobCats have strong owners and Topeka just got picked up by a group of new owners so you will see some improvements to their show (which is good already) The coaches seem to move around a lot from team to team in the NAHL but it's a business!

So you are stating in your post that your son turned down a tender offer from two NAHL teams prior to the draft......and then no one picked him up during the draft held on Wednesday?

USHL tryouts are looking for two maybe three players depending on how many players aged out, got scholarships or were already picked up in the draft or tendered. Just because you made the roster at the end of the invite camp does not mean you are going to play a single game or even last longer then a month an the team roster before you are traded or sent to the NAHL. If your son really thinks he can play at the USHL level, pay your money for the tryout camp and tell him to make something happen. You never know. If the NAHL is a better fit, tell your son to pick one or two teams and got to their tryout camp.

Personally I would have took the tender no matter where it was. FYI ...If a coach or team is interested in you (a player) that is a good thing especially since this is your first year of juniors. The NAHL is a very strong league. Your son will find that out soon enough what it is like to play against 19 and 20 year olds who have been in this league for a year or more.
Good luck to him.

[Penalty Shot]

Interesting comments, my 2 cents worth most from personal experience. You want to go somewhere that the coach has expressed a sincere desire to have you on their team. There is a BIG differance between wanting you to come to a tryout and wanting you on the team. NAHL is a very good laegue and getting better all the time. I believe there are opportunities in the USHL for a tryout player, it doesnt happen often that a player who goes through the tryout process and becomes an im portant player on a USHL team but it does happen. The question for example if you are a D is would you rather be #6,7,8 on a USHL team or a top 4 on an NAHL team developing special team play as well as experiencing the JR life stlye. Do you want to pay the extra $3-4,000 to get that extra ice time? Nahl you pay for billet family ~ 275 a month and your own skates and some equiptment compared to no costs playing in the USHL.
A big problem I have seen is when a player is on the USHL roster and gets cut when their roster has to be cut to 23. This happens after school has started and a kid who makes a team dreaming of D-1 gets cut and would rather have gone to school rather then play in the NAHL or the MNJHL.
One other note all the NAHL teams and USHL teams know who is tendered before the draft.

[justwatchin]

Thanks for the info. it was a big help.

No one knows about the SIJHL out of Canada? Most of the teams if not all are out of Thunder Bay. This is their NAHL league from what I understand.

[mghockey18]

If your gonna go play in Canada you need to be playing in the BCHL.

[hockeypuck91]

Not necessarily bud, look at the commitments list for each league in canada. Although the BCHL does have the most the AJHL and SJHL are close behind.

[Doglover]

2pipsnin - appreciate your insight into all of this. Curious - does it make any sense for a kid who was not drafted in the USHL draft to attend the invite camps when they are still two years out or should they wait a year and see what kind of options they are looking at then? Just wondering how smart it is to dish out the $$$ so young when they may never play USHL or NAHL?

[davey]

2pipsnin - appreciate your insight into all of this. Curious - does it make any sense for a kid who was not drafted in the USHL draft to attend the invite camps when they are still two years out or should they wait a year and see what kind of options they are looking at then? Just wondering how smart it is to dish out the $$$ so young when they may never play USHL or NAHL?

Doglover, if you can afford the $$ it may be worth it to try one of the camps that take place locally to see where the kid stands in relation to the level of play in the USHL. I know of instances where the kids did this and were offered a spot on the team or an invitation to the final camp which is usually free of charge if you had paid for the invite camp.

[2pipesnin]

I agree with Davey.....If you want to pay the money try one. If your player is two years out and no one has shown any interest in him yet. Just have your player keep training and playing hard. I would expect that your player will get interest from a NAHL team before any USHL. If a NAHL team does not tender or draft your player. Sit down with your player and pick a NAHL team he would like to play for and send in an application to attend a tryout camp. If he attends the open camp and does well, he could be asked back to attend the invite camp (which is free) If you do not have any NAHL teams looking at your player, don't even consider the USHL . Your wasting both your time and money.
Good Luck.

[justwatchin]

Doglover,

My son tried out with a USHL team last year his Jr. year...it was an invite only. Great Experience! You get a feel for the tryout process and your son will see a bigger picture. My son was offered a tender with a NAHL team this year, he has rec'd phone calls and letters from several teams in the USHL/NAHL some calls started last winter.

You will know who is interested and who is not. The cost of tryouts and travel expenses add up and it's all at once and if your on a budget like most of us parents your son will have to make choices and they are not easy. Plan on the month of June for hockey tryouts if your son does not tender or get drafted in any league. IF your son has not been on any of the select teams, U16/U17, Elites 1 & 2's he should tryout for those teams, they will give him some good exposure and are scouted.

We never really knew the process over the years and our son did play on some AAA teams, U15/16's and those were when he would get a call with an invite, we never knew what was out there. His Senior year has made a difference for him. He's not from a large school and didn't transfer when he easily could have. Did hit hurt him not playing for a bigger team, who knows, we have told him you get out of it what you put into it. He played from last March through this March. Just for ice time he played with the AAA team that he had played with for 2 years and that was 3 weekend away tourneys $$. The year before we did 2 AAA teams for his Jr. year. This past year $$$$$$$$ AAA, than he played on Elites 1's, All Star game, Great 8's and Chicago Showcase. I have also told my son if it's meant to be it will happen. The choices are not easy. I wish we would have had idea of the process 2 years ago. I don't follow forum pages too much, but there has been some good information that has helped. Good Luck!

[auld_skool]

justwatchin,

My son's a few years behind yours. My question is what would you do differently if you knew then what you know now?

thanks