MN Legacy Hockey - 2010 AAA Team Tryouts (Aug. 30 - Sept. 3)

[pro2b@3]

MN Legacy has scheduled it's 2010 Tryout dates:


Sunday 8/30/09 – 2001 (SR4 3:10pm), 2000 (SR4 4:20pm), & 1999 (SR1 5:30pm)
Monday 8/31/09 – 1998 (SR7 7:50pm), 1997 (SR5 6:10pm), & 1996 (SR5 7:20pm)
Thursday 9/3/09 – U10 (SR5 6:10pm), U12 (SR5 7:20pm), & U14 (SR5 8:30pm)

Minnesota Legacy Hockey is a unique AAA training program concentrating on overall skill development. The focus of our program is to develop the Elite Level Hockey Player. The key components needed for superior hockey performance are enhanced physical strength and power, explosive skating speed and agility, body control and puck handling ability. We structure highly demanding and challenging practices designed to elevate performance.

http://www.minnesotalegacyhockey.com/

The Tryout Registration Tab is on the Left side of the Website.

[HockeyDad41]

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[muckandgrind]

Why do AAA tryouts start so early?

So they don't interfere with association tryouts/season.

A better question to ask of Legacy is: "Why did you fold the 95 Legacy team during the summer season instead of seeing it through to the end?"

[HockeyDad41]

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[muckandgrind]

Why do AAA tryouts start so early?

So they don't interfere with association tryouts/season.

A better question to ask of Legacy is: "Why did you fold the 95 Legacy team during the summer season instead of seeing it through to the end?"

It just seems a little early. I bet a lot of kids, especially the younger ones, would do better at those tryouts after the experience they get during the season.

I guess you can never just please everyone. From my experience, more people would prefer to have their kids tryout the summer before rather than in the middle of their association season. That being said, most AAA teams will have multiple tryout sessions and my bet is that the Legacy will also have additional tryouts during the season to satisfy parents like yourself.

[HockeyDad41]

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[northwoods oldtimer]

A new cultural norm to get the early jump on things. You also need the parents to run out and purchase the AAA merchandise to wear at Association games and functions. Also little triple A super star can hopefully dawn his triple A gear at association practice in hopes the coach/evauluators take note that they have one prized possession in their midst on the ice. Of course you cannot have a season without little super star mentioning about 1000 times to anyone within earshot that he plays on triple A so and so and cannot wait for this pathetic assocation stuff to end so that 'real season' can begin. that about covers it.

[Bring-it-don't-Sing-it!!]

[HockeyDad41]

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[muckandgrind]

It's kind of funny reading the anti-AAA crowd constantly p!ss and moan, and regurgitate the same ol' tired arguments that nobody is buying.

I think we ALL get the fact that you don't like summer AAA hockey. Fine. Don't sign your kids up for it. Go fishing, do whatever. But there are many other people who feel differently. There are many other parents and players who have found that the AAA hockey experience has been a lot of fun. We don't expect our kids to play Division 1 college hockey, let alone play in the NHL. Our kids have met some great friends and truly look forward to getting together with them each summer to play in some tournaments. We don't wear all the sweatshirts (and other gear) that you claim we do. We don't brag about it to others in the association, as you claim we do.

Are there bad coaches and bad AAA organizations? Of course there are. Buyer beware...do your homework. But there are also many wonderful coaches out there who do a great job developing our youngsters and creating a fun experience for them.

Unlike association hockey, we can CHOOSE which team and coach our kids play for, which is pretty nice. The other great thing is that you can choose NOT to play AAA in the summer, which is fine as well...yet you don't see posts on this board ripping you for making THAT choice, do you??

For you to come on to a youth hockey website and trash something that many other people view as good fun, makes me really wonder about you and how you get your kicks. Whatever trips your trigger, I guess....

[HockeyDad41]

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[InigoMontoya]

Why do AAA tryouts start so early?

It has slowly evolved in an attempt to offer spots to the best kids. Early tryout = early offer, which may mean the kid won't tryout for other teams. Programs in other states have tryouts in the spring, right after the season ends. USA Hockey publicly frowns on this, but their actions move the registration date to accommodate. It's not dastardly; it's open market. How long has Christmas stuff been in stores already?

A new cultural norm to get the early jump on things. You also need the parents to run out and purchase the AAA merchandise to wear at Association games and functions. Also little triple A super star can hopefully dawn his triple A gear at association practice in hopes the coach/evauluators take note that they have one prized possession in their midst on the ice. Of course you cannot have a season without little super star mentioning about 1000 times to anyone within earshot that he plays on triple A so and so and cannot wait for this pathetic assocation stuff to end so that 'real season' can begin. that about covers it.

This is probably a nice example of how a forum polarizes responses. Most of us feel we need to be extreme in our posts to get our points across, when in real life we are much more moderate . It is no more fair to characterize AAA players and parents in this cartoonish fashion than it is to stereotype all association boardmembers and parent-coaches as self-serving power mongers bent on ensuring the success of their prodigy.

[ThePuckStopsHere]

It's all about the MONEY and Bernie copy cats!

Bernie copy cats??? Do you really think the benchmark for AAA hockey is Bernie McMoney?? Get me a bucket before I lose my breakfast

[buttend]

It's all about the MONEY and Bernie copy cats!

Bernie copy cats??? Do you really think the benchmark for AAA hockey is Bernie McMoney?? Get me a bucket before I lose my breakfast

I guess we should call you ThePukeStopsHere No where in this thread was there any inference that Bernie was the benchmark. The "copycat" statement was an insult to the Legacy program because they have copied Bernies Machine program. Scott Bond was the 96 Deuce coach before he left to start Mn Legacy Hockey (aka Cyclones).

No Puke, the benchmark is not Minnesota Made. but Bernie has certianly raised the bar in the last few years. There are more teams skating off season then ever before, more teams working on individual skills then ever before, more players putting in more off season hours. Doubt It? Look at the Blades, Icemen, Legacy Hockey, Team RBK, Magicians, Northern Edge, Easton Teams, St Croix Teams,ect.

[multiplesportskids]

Buttend, great reply. 100% right on

[HockeyDad41]

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[jollyroger]

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I guess we should call you ThePukeStopsHere No where in this thread was there any inference that Bernie was the benchmark. The "copycat" statement was an insult to the Legacy program because they have copied Bernies Machine program. Scott Bond was the 96 Deuce coach before he left to start Mn Legacy Hockey (aka Cyclones).

No Puke, the benchmark is not Minnesota Made. but Bernie has certianly raised the bar in the last few years. There are more teams skating off season then ever before, more teams working on individual skills then ever before, more players putting in more off season hours. Doubt It? Look at the Blades, Icemen, Legacy Hockey, Team RBK, Magicians, Northern Edge, Easton Teams, St Croix Teams,ect.

Mr. Butthead -- In all your blah blah here, I can't tell if you're anti-Legacy or pro-Legacy. Or anti-Bernie or pro-Bernie. Or anti-AAA or pro-AAA. In the words of the immortal Neal Page: "Here's a good idea - have a point. It makes it SO much more interesting for the listener."

[Bring-it-don't-Sing-it!!]

It's all about the MONEY and Bernie copy cats!

Bernie copy cats??? Do you really think the benchmark for AAA hockey is Bernie McMoney?? Get me a bucket before I lose my breakfast

I DON'T but I think Legacy does!!!

[Bring-it-don't-Sing-it!!]

It's all about the MONEY and Bernie copy cats!

Bernie copy cats??? Do you really think the benchmark for AAA hockey is Bernie McMoney?? Get me a bucket before I lose my breakfast

I DON'T but I think Legacy does!!!

[buttend]

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I guess we should call you ThePukeStopsHere No where in this thread was there any inference that Bernie was the benchmark. The "copycat" statement was an insult to the Legacy program because they have copied Bernies Machine program. Scott Bond was the 96 Deuce coach before he left to start Mn Legacy Hockey (aka Cyclones).

No Puke, the benchmark is not Minnesota Made. but Bernie has certianly raised the bar in the last few years. There are more teams skating off season then ever before, more teams working on individual skills then ever before, more players putting in more off season hours. Doubt It? Look at the Blades, Icemen, Legacy Hockey, Team RBK, Magicians, Northern Edge, Easton Teams, St Croix Teams,ect.

Mr. Butthead -- In all your blah blah here, I can't tell if you're anti-Legacy or pro-Legacy. Or anti-Bernie or pro-Bernie. Or anti-AAA or pro-AAA. In the words of the immortal Neal Page: "Here's a good idea - have a point. It makes it SO much more interesting for the listener."

JR

The post contained humor, counterpoint and point. You had better stick to posting on the Girls Youth Hockey Forum.

[Phish12]

Why is Legacy unique? Well its unique like Coke is unique from Pepsi, I suppose. Both are colas, but each is just...different. Legacy focuses almost entirely on skill development versus games or scrimmages. They have a development system that every team implements. I believe the origin of the system comes from Bernie and the Minnesota Made program, but like someone once said, there are no new ideas, only new ways of making them felt. Is this development approach better than others? Worse? Depends on what you're looking for. If you want your kid to play a bunch of games, select one of the other AAA options. If you want your kid working on skills (and your kid has the appetite for that), then Legacy fits the bill. People need to get a life and get over themselves. This raging debate about which AAA program is "better" is pointless and interesting only for a very select few "over the top" parents who believe AAA = WCHA or NHL. For instance, winning a tournament simply means you have some great kids on the team that played well. It doesn't mean that your kid is the greatest player on the planet, that they are learning the most, improving the most, or, most importantly, are having a good time. The bottom line is, if your kid is having a great experience (meaning learning, improving AND having fun), then its money well spent. If not, find something that fits your child better.

[HockeyDad41]

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[Phish12]

I simply mean that there is a written development plan with specific drills. Each team runs the same drills across the entire organization. This is different (I won't use the word "unique" because you don't seem to like it) from association hockey or other AAA teams we've known, where the practice plan is up to the coach. Not saying the Legacy approach is better or worse than some other way. Not even saying its "unique" because I believe others have a similar approach. Just saying what it is. You can go to the Super Rink about any night of the week and see three or four Legacy teams (boy, girl, young, old) doing the same drills. When the players have mastered something, they move on or add wrinkles to the drills. Again, all per a written manual. The goal is to improve the player's overall skill set so they can return to association hockey a better skater. Whatever PR terms or phrases a AAA program chooses, we are all smart enough to understand hyperbole and to filter the "unique" claims accordingly.

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[InigoMontoya]

u⋅nique  /yuˈnik/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [yoo-neek] Show IPA
Use unique in a Sentence
–adjective
1. existing as the only one or as the sole example; single; solitary in type or characteristics: a unique copy of an ancient manuscript.
2. having no like or equal; unparalleled; incomparable: Bach was unique in his handling of counterpoint.
3. limited in occurrence to a given class, situation, or area: a species unique to Australia.
4. limited to a single outcome or result; without alternative possibilities: Certain types of problems have unique solutions.
5. not typical; unusual: She has a very unique smile.

–noun
6. the embodiment of unique characteristics; the only specimen of a given kind: The unique is also the improbable.


The definitions above would say that "unique" is not absolute. Therefore Legacy is fine calling itself unique; they could even call themselves extremely unique, if they like. Even if the definition were absolute, they have a combination of coaches, lesson plan, practice to game mix, intensity, etc. that is different than any other program - therefore, by definition, each and every AAA program is unique, which ironically makes them the same.

My question to you: why pick on Legacy?