Elite 1 and Elite 2 Games

[east hockey]

Here's a roster for the Waterloo team that I found ....

Jersey Pos Grade Name School
4 D Soph Jacob Bushey Duluth East
5 D Jr Mitch Hall St. Cloud Tech
6 D Soph Tyler Richison Amery, WI
7 F Soph Colton Kramer Sioux City, IA
11 F Jr Matt Eilertson Elk River
13 F Soph Garrett Aldrich Elk River
15 F Soph Tanner Holmquist Hopkins
16 F Fr CJ Smith Bloomington Jefferson
17 F Jr Brandon Reinholz St. Cloud Tech
19 F Fr Jacob Horton Tartan
24 F Jr Alex Ach Totino Grace
27 D Jr Nick Hinz North High
34 G Soph Anders Franke Elk River, MN
40 G Fr Cal Peterson Waterloo, IA
46 F Fr Andrew Bertrand Centennial
87 F Soph Lucas Dickison Benilde St. Margret
94 F Soph George Splichal Hill Murray
97 D Soph Jordan Freeberg Maple Grove

Jacob Bushey plays for Duluth Marshall, not Duluth East.

Lee

[CB00]

PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 11:20 am Post subject:
Husky88 wrote:
Here's a roster for the Waterloo team that I found ....

Jersey Pos Grade Name School
4 D Soph Jacob Bushey Duluth East
5 D Jr Mitch Hall St. Cloud Tech
6 D Soph Tyler Richison Amery, WI
7 F Soph Colton Kramer Sioux City, IA
11 F Jr Matt Eilertson Elk River
13 F Soph Garrett Aldrich Elk River
15 F Soph Tanner Holmquist Hopkins
16 F Fr CJ Smith Bloomington Jefferson
17 F Jr Brandon Reinholz St. Cloud Tech
19 F Fr Jacob Horton Tartan
24 F Jr Alex Ach Totino Grace
27 D Jr Nick Hinz North High
34 G Soph Anders Franke Elk River, MN
40 G Fr Cal Peterson Waterloo, IA
46 F Fr Andrew Bertrand Centennial
87 F Soph Lucas Dickison Benilde St. Margret
94 F Soph George Splichal Hill Murray
97 D Soph Jordan Freeberg Maple Grove
are any of these kids good varsity players on there high school teams? Why don't they play on a minn. 16u team?

Mitch Hall, Brandon Reinholz, Matt Eilertson, Garrett Aldrich and Anders Franke I know all played varsity hockey last year. I would also expect the majority of this roster to play varsity at their respective schools. Bertrand and Smith will be going back to the Bantam teams this week. Cole Salweski, Totino, and Joey Hess, Centennial, are also players on this team.

The reason they don't play on a Minnesota team is the only 16U team is the Blades. The 16U Blades are only a before team, not after. That means the Waterloo players will come back together after the high school season and participate in USA Hockey playoffs. MN teams can not participate in after USA playoffs as MN hockey will not sanction a team. Elite II does not offer this either.

They are still looking for a few good players. If interested, please send a personal message.

[Sioux Fan]

Good for them. That is what we need to do get our kids competing in the National Midget tourney so we can get our footing back with USHL>

[Doglover]

Just another example of how MN Hockey is not looking out for the best interests of MN hockey players. Why won't they sanction a team for the after season so we can have a MN team possibly compete for nationals? Let the Blades or another team play before AND after so they can get in the required number of games. Maybe someone can explain the logic to me. Wouldn't that help keep kids in HS like the Elite league versus going to USHL? Or does it compete with their Elite II league so they won't allow it? Not even for the kids who aren't offered a tryout in Elite and have no interest in Elite II. Elite II doesn't even play in the spring. Maybe someone has an answer that makes sense?

[Husky88]

The Waterloo Blackhawks is a 16 U AAA before and after team comprised of 93 and 94 birthyears. They are from Minnesota, Iowa and Wisconsin.

did the minnesota kids play high school hockey last year

Here is the Varsity activity I found on Point Streak ....

4 D Soph Jacob Bushey - Duluth Marshall - 17 games (2 goals/5 assists)

5 D Jr Mitch Hall - St. Cloud Tech - Played Varsity (only post season activity was on Point Streak)

11 F Jr Matt Eilertson - Elk River - 20 games (1 goal/2 assists)

13 F Soph Garrett Aldrich - Elk River - 29 games (0 goal/6 assists)

17 F Jr Brandon Reinholz - St. Cloud Tech - Played Varsity (only post season activity was on Point Streak)

24 F Jr Alex Ach - Totino Grace - Played Varsity (only post season activity was on Point Streak)

27 D Jr Nick Hinz - North High - 26 games (2 goals/7 assists)

34 G Soph Anders Franke - Elk River, MN - 23 games (13-9-1)

Cole Salweski - Totino Grace - Played Varsity (only post season activity was on Point Streak)

[High Flyer]

Just another example of how MN Hockey is not looking out for the best interests of MN hockey players. Why won't they sanction a team for the after season so we can have a MN team possibly compete for nationals? Let the Blades or another team play before AND after so they can get in the required number of games. Maybe someone can explain the logic to me. Wouldn't that help keep kids in HS like the Elite league versus going to USHL? Or does it compete with their Elite II league so they won't allow it? Not even for the kids who aren't offered a tryout in Elite and have no interest in Elite II. Elite II doesn't even play in the spring. Maybe someone has an answer that makes sense?

Not hard to do. Scale down Uppermidwest Elite League to only three metro teams, require SSM to play full schedule and league champion goes to U18 nationals. copy format for elite II, send the league champion to the U16 nationals. Now create a new U14 league, same as U16 & U18

Drop the sunday games and only play 2 on saturday. Let each team add a couple of tournaments. Add some more practice time during the week, ie Tues., Wed. & Thurs.

[GR3343]

So how are the actual Elite League games going?

[CB00]

Just another example of how MN Hockey is not looking out for the best interests of MN hockey players. Why won't they sanction a team for the after season so we can have a MN team possibly compete for nationals? Let the Blades or another team play before AND after so they can get in the required number of games. Maybe someone can explain the logic to me. Wouldn't that help keep kids in HS like the Elite league versus going to USHL? Or does it compete with their Elite II league so they won't allow it? Not even for the kids who aren't offered a tryout in Elite and have no interest in Elite II. Elite II doesn't even play in the spring. Maybe someone has an answer that makes sense?

Not hard to do. Scale down Uppermidwest Elite League to only three metro teams, require SSM to play full schedule and league champion goes to U18 nationals. copy format for elite II, send the league champion to the U16 nationals. Now create a new U14 league, same as U16 & U18

Drop the sunday games and only play 2 on saturday. Let each team add a couple of tournaments. Add some more practice time during the week, ie Tues., Wed. & Thurs.

Not so easy. The Elite II coul not have any 91's or 92's for the 16U team. Most importantly, MN Hockey would have to sanction the team. Good luck doing that!

[High Flyer]

Just another example of how MN Hockey is not looking out for the best interests of MN hockey players. Why won't they sanction a team for the after season so we can have a MN team possibly compete for nationals? Let the Blades or another team play before AND after so they can get in the required number of games. Maybe someone can explain the logic to me. Wouldn't that help keep kids in HS like the Elite league versus going to USHL? Or does it compete with their Elite II league so they won't allow it? Not even for the kids who aren't offered a tryout in Elite and have no interest in Elite II. Elite II doesn't even play in the spring. Maybe someone has an answer that makes sense?

Not hard to do. Scale down Uppermidwest Elite League to only three metro teams, require SSM to play full schedule and league champion goes to U18 nationals. copy format for elite II, send the league champion to the U16 nationals. Now create a new U14 league, same as U16 & U18

Drop the sunday games and only play 2 on saturday. Let each team add a couple of tournaments. Add some more practice time during the week, ie Tues., Wed. & Thurs.

Not so easy. The Elite II coul not have any 91's or 92's for the 16U team. Most importantly, MN Hockey would have to sanction the team. Good luck doing that!

usa hockey (through its affiliate, MN hockey) is already sanc. (registering) elite 2 teams and upper midwest elite league teams.

Actually, there would not be a problem with 92's and 91's playing in the elite II league, it the structure of the "teams" that would need to be modified slightly in order to make it work, but it is very do able and easy.

While I have no issues with SSM and MN Hockey willingness to register thier teams, it bothers me to know that there are many Minnesota players who would like to have the opportunity to play on a team that could compete with SSM for right to attend a national torunament vs. just sending only "one" team that primarly consists of out of state players to represent Minnesota.

[keepmeoutofit]

i'm sorry if this is a stupid question but are the elite II teams playing teams that are 16 & under?
arnt many of the elite II 91 & 92 birth years.

[youngblood08]

No but yes. The Elite II teams play the other Elite2 teams but also play a team from Norway and SSM, which are made up of younger players. The Norway team is from a SPorts school in norway they bring 2 teams over for something like 16 games in 2 weeks. They have a (1-92 team and a 92-93 and 94 age team so basically U18 and U16.

[keepmeoutofit]

thanks. what about the south dakota teams and the MN islanders and mn hornets

[youngblood08]

ND team and SD team are high school All Star teams. The ND Stars are a U18 team. Hornets might still be an Edina group that played AAA at the youth levels and I dont know about the Islanders.

[dakotakid]

ND team and SD team are high school All Star teams. The ND Stars are a U18 team. Hornets might still be an Edina group that played AAA at the youth levels and I dont know about the Islanders.

the nd stars are u16. the north dakota teams are open try out in there area. there is a fargo team a grand forks team a bismarck team and a williston team. they are all elite 2. all of the top end high school players play elite 1. the islanders are elite 2

[dakotakid]

I just looked at the program from last weekend in Fargo and here are the teams that were there.

Northern Plains League

MN Hornets-Thief River Falls,Crookston
MN JR Islanders-Warroad,Roseau
MN Sharks-Fergus Falls,Moorhead
ND Cowboys-Bismarck
ND Outlaws-Williston,Minot
ND Starz 16u- Grand Forks,Fargo, W.Fargo,Devils Lake,Grafton,Bismarck
RRV Phantoms-Fargo
RRV Rebels-Grand Forks
South Dakota

MN EliteII

Iron Range
Metro Northwest
Metro West
Northwest
Southwest

Waterloo Blackhawks 16u
Winnipeg HS elite

I am not sure why the Northern Plains League is not Elite II this year.

[Frozen Water]

From what I understand the Elite II teams won the majority of their games against the Northern Plains AAA teams.

[thiscrazygame]

There are some really good uncommitted players playing in the Elite League

Goalies

http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/goa ... sonid=4172

Players

http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/sco ... sonid=4172

[High Flyer]

There are some really good uncommitted players playing in the Elite League

Goalies

http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/goa ... sonid=4172

Players

http://www.pointstreak.com/prostats/sco ... sonid=4172

early signing period is comming up in November. I think you will see a few more commitments then

[keepyourheadup]

The shattuck team playing in eliteII is their midget AAA team. All juniors and seniors, word is the U16 team is better although I have no idea if its true.