White Bear vs. Rochester Century

XFactor · Post by **XFactor** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 2:49 pm

Game is this Saturday, any predictions?

Hockeywatcher123 · Post by **Hockeywatcher123** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 4:42 pm

dont know much about century, but wbl should handle them

Northsider · Post by **Northsider** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:31 pm

White Bear 4-1

Is it at Rochester or Aldrich?

2darink10 · Post by **2darink10** » Thu Nov 26, 2009 9:37 pm

Northsider wrote:White Bear 4-1

Is it at Rochester or Aldrich?

The game is at Rochester. And white bear will take them handily... 6-2.

SEMNHOCKEYFAN · Post by **SEMNHOCKEYFAN** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 12:40 am

WBL wins 5-2........Century always starts the season slow then picks it up right before the kiwanis tourney

Nodak Sioux · Post by **Nodak Sioux** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 1:28 pm

I am having problems finding rosters and lines for both team. Does anybody know of them?

wbmd · Post by **wbmd** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:16 pm

Nodak Sioux wrote:I am having problems finding rosters and lines for both team. Does anybody know of them?

Team members as follows:

http://mshsl.org/mshsl/showroster.asp?a ... school=102

http://mshsl.org/mshsl/showroster.asp?a ... school=485

Hockeyfan#8 · Post by **Hockeyfan#8** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 4:57 pm

White Bear 6 to 4 with an empty netter

mnhcky65 · Post by **mnhcky65** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 5:59 pm

Anyone know who will be playing in goal for WBL?
Has Sampair been declared eligble to play?

2darink10 · Post by **2darink10** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:26 pm

mnhcky65 wrote:Anyone know who will be playing in goal for WBL?
Has Sampair been declared eligble to play?

Rumors floating around that he was declared ineligible, but he informed that they arn't true. Not sure if that means he is eligible, or if they just haven't come to a conclusion yet.

Shaggy 79 · Post by **Shaggy 79** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 9:21 pm

WBL will split the game with both Goalies as of Fridays Practice

2darink10 · Post by **2darink10** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:10 pm

Shaggy 79 wrote:WBL will split the game with both Goalies as of Fridays Practice

With the goalies listed on the roster... Schletty and Jordan? Or Sampair as well?

Goldfishdude · Post by **Goldfishdude** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:26 pm

2darink10 wrote:
Shaggy 79 wrote:WBL will split the game with both Goalies as of Fridays Practice
With the goalies listed on the roster... Schletty and Jordan? Or Sampair as well?

Sampair is ineligible to practice.

2darink10 · Post by **2darink10** » Fri Nov 27, 2009 10:33 pm

Goldfishdude wrote:
2darink10 wrote:
Shaggy 79 wrote:WBL will split the game with both Goalies as of Fridays Practice
With the goalies listed on the roster... Schletty and Jordan? Or Sampair as well?
Sampair is ineligible to practice.

Really? So does that mean he has to find a new team, or are they still waiting?

Sioux Fan · Post by **Sioux Fan** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:43 am

What time is the game in afternoon or evening.

Goldfishdude · Post by **Goldfishdude** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 5:50 am

2darink10 wrote:
Goldfishdude wrote:
2darink10 wrote: With the goalies listed on the roster... Schletty and Jordan? Or Sampair as well?
Sampair is ineligible to practice.
Really? So does that mean he has to find a new team, or are they still waiting?

The MSHSL cannot make comments on this due to data privacy acts.

My understanding is that Sampair transferred to, I believe, Middleton school, in Madison, Wisc, in Sept, while his parents did not move. He started playing hockey in the 2009-10 season for the U18 Midget team, the Madison Capitals. This is a voluntary transfer. Does not involve family moves, hardship, custody.

http://www.pointstreak.com/players/play ... sonid=4364

It is believed he was cut from the team based on his performance, as the stats indicated. Even though he played just two games, he was ranked 59th out of 59 goalies in that league.

He then enrolled in WBL Nov 10th, past mid-term and one week before tryouts. The fact that he left Hill for Madison, indicates his transfer was for hockey purposes, and the fact he left Middleton to come back to Minnesota was for hockey purposes. WBL is his third school in 5 months, second in two months. The fact he enrolled Nov 10th is also the issue. Had he enrolled in Sept, there would have not been issues.

After all, this is what transfer rules are set-up to discourage - to leave a Minnesota HS team, because you are displeased with your playing time, transfer to Wis and then back to Minnesota. Sampair was active in capt practices prior to enrollment. So it is safe to say it's been three weeks since his eligibility has been in question. The MSHSL is making sure that it does not create precedent that basically would mean you might as well throw out all transfer rules then.

Sampair is a senior, which complicated this mess, otherwise, he would have been allowed to play JV without question.

The "rumor" posted on the other thread was that Sampair was playing Junior hockey for the Minnesota Wildcats, although, that is still unknown. In a private message to Barry McConnell who posted this "rumor", Barry would not disclose to me who he is or what relationship he has to the HS program, but he informed me it was stated by Sager himself.

Keep in mind, there are no rights to playing high school hockey. It is a privilege.

These are the facts to the best of my knowledge, and I offer no personal opinions.

Without having Karl or Mitch locking this post so we can update the scores, let's just let the Sampair discussion end right here without any further comments, unless constructed with courtesy. At this point, he is ruled ineligible.

Goldfishdude · Post by **Goldfishdude** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 6:02 am

Sioux Fan wrote:What time is the game in afternoon or evening.

JV 5:30, Varsity 7:30 in Rochester.

youngblood08 · Post by **youngblood08** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 7:26 am

Very nice !!! Good Luck Today.

mnhcky65 · Post by **mnhcky65** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:37 am

White Bear should be able to handle Rochester pretty easily. However White Bear's goaltending is nothing from what it has been in the previous years. Rochester should be able to net 2 or 3 on the inexperienced White Bear goalies. WB defense also lost a few players. Gjerde and Loesch are going to have to step up big and help develop these new guys. If they want to win, WB will need to have strong D to prevent too many shots on the new goalies. Also, WB's top offensive lines have to find a way to put some shots in the net.

Despite the inexperience, I see WB pulling a 6-3 victory.

wblhockeyfan8 · Post by **wblhockeyfan8** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 11:59 am

mnhcky65 wrote:White Bear should be able to handle Rochester pretty easily. However White Bear's goaltending is nothing from what it has been in the previous years. Rochester should be able to net 2 or 3 on the inexperienced White Bear goalies. WB defense also lost a few players. Gjerde and Loesch are going to have to step up big and help develop these new guys. If they want to win, WB will need to have strong D to prevent too many shots on the new goalies. Also, WB's top offensive lines have to find a way to put some shots in the net.

Despite the inexperience, I see WB pulling a 6-3 victory.

Their is a possibility Gjerde could be out with chest issues due to illness.

I could be wrong, and he could be out there tonight. But if not look for Loesch and the freshman Carney on the top D line tonight.

EDIT: 6-2 WB.

Goldfishdude · Post by **Goldfishdude** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:12 pm

Let's add more to the mystery. Gjerde reportedly is on the shelf for another week with an upper body injury. He did not practice all week, unless he did Friday. Loesch and Ben Clark are the only returning defensmen that have logged significant time. Matt Glasgow may be a game-time decision, as he is returning from an upper-body injury, too. Glasgow did log some decent minutes last year.

I believe WBL, ranked 13th by Followthepuck.com, will also be without senior Justin Hauswirth (hand).

With the inexperience and a lack of a couple of key seniors, WBL cannot afford to take penalties. As one posted the comments that Rochester is improved, this doesn't appear to be the cake-walk WBL had a year ago in a 7-1 win.

Century is ranked 20th by FollowthePuck.com, and had quality wins a year ago versus Tartan, Duluth East and Lakeville North, enroute to advancing to the state tourney. Century won 12 of it's last 14 games before hitting state. Century did graduate some key players.

WBL's line of Wahlin, Birkinbine and Wolter may just be enough to score 5 goals itself for the victory, but I would not be surprised to see a Century victory.

wblhockeyfan8 · Post by **wblhockeyfan8** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:19 pm

Goldfishdude wrote:Let's add more to the mystery. Gjerde reportedly is on the shelf for another week with an upper body injury. He did not practice all week, unless he did Friday. Loesch and Ben Clark are the only returning defensmen that have logged significant time. Matt Glasgow may be a game-time decision, as he is returning from an upper-body injury, too. Glasgow did log some decent minutes last year.

I believe WBL, ranked 13th by Followthepuck.com, will also be without senior Justin Hauswirth (hand).

With the inexperience and a lack of a couple of key seniors, WBL cannot afford to take penalties. As one posted the comments that Rochester is improved, this doesn't appear to be the cake-walk WBL had a year ago in a 7-1 win.

Century is ranked 20th by FollowthePuck.com, and had quality wins a year ago versus Tartan, Duluth East and Lakeville North, enroute to advancing to the state tourney. Century won 12 of it's last 14 games before hitting state. Century did graduate some key players.

WBL's line of Wahlin, Birkinbine and Wolter may just be enough to score 5 goals itself for the victory, but I would not be surprised to see a Century victory.

Your wisdom astounds me as always sir.

EDIT: Who's in net for Century tonight?

Goldfishdude · Post by **Goldfishdude** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:37 pm

mnhcky65 wrote:White Bear should be able to handle Rochester pretty easily. However White Bear's goaltending is nothing from what it has been in the previous years. Rochester should be able to net 2 or 3 on the inexperienced White Bear goalies. WB defense also lost a few players. Gjerde and Loesch are going to have to step up big and help develop these new guys. If they want to win, WB will need to have strong D to prevent too many shots on the new goalies. Also, WB's top offensive lines have to find a way to put some shots in the net.

Despite the inexperience, I see WB pulling a 6-3 victory.

Mnhock - it will be more important to eliminate the QUALITY of shots. If the Bears do not protect the defensive end, it is quite possible turnovers will result in goals. It is not inconceivable to see 4 goals in 15 shots. The Bears will have to force shots outside the triangle that signifies the "scoring chance" range. If the Bears allow too many scoring chances, goals will be scored off rebounds.

And OH.. wblhockeyfan8..... this isn't rocket science!!!

wblhockeyfan8 · Post by **wblhockeyfan8** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:40 pm

Goldfishdude wrote:
mnhcky65 wrote:White Bear should be able to handle Rochester pretty easily. However White Bear's goaltending is nothing from what it has been in the previous years. Rochester should be able to net 2 or 3 on the inexperienced White Bear goalies. WB defense also lost a few players. Gjerde and Loesch are going to have to step up big and help develop these new guys. If they want to win, WB will need to have strong D to prevent too many shots on the new goalies. Also, WB's top offensive lines have to find a way to put some shots in the net.

Despite the inexperience, I see WB pulling a 6-3 victory.
Mnhock - it will be more important to eliminate the QUALITY of shots. If the Bears do not protect the defensive end, it is quite possible turnovers will result in goals. It is not inconceivable to see 4 goals in 15 shots. The Bears will have to force shots outside the triangle that signifies the "scoring chance" range. If the Bears allow too many scoring chances, goals will be scored off rebounds.

And OH.. wblhockeyfan8..... this isn't rocket science!!!

Don't get sassy on me Tus.

You just seem to always have your knowledge and thoughts very well organized. So perhaps you have an answer to my netminder question?

Goldfishdude · Post by **Goldfishdude** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 12:46 pm

I believe it will be Cameron Sellnow, a JR...

I will not be making the jaunt today...

and hey, Hockeyfan8.... did you see Woodbury get 56 shots on TARTAN in a 4-1 win??

OH OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!