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5 hole sniper
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Top players for U-10 Girls

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tiger2009
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Post by tiger2009 »

From what I hear and saw the Faribault Hockey Assoc. nor the 10UB head coach have anything to be proud of! Shortening the bench at this level is a disgrace! This coach has no business coaching! I am not even a part of this association but saw this first hand how this coach puts his own need to win ahead of developing 8,9, and 10 year old girls. Yes....this was at the 10UB level!!! :shock: I don't know of any other association that would allow this at the level/age....I know mine sure wouldn't! Many players would look good at this level given the opportunity to play most of the game while their teammates sit on the bench!
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Post by endtoend »

YO 5 Hole

Get a clue. Everyone here knows you are promoting your own kid. If you could let your entire team develop and maybe play in the A level in the future instead of shortening your bench she might get noticed if she is any good. Sorry but there will be no one interested in a 10U B kid who scores 5 goals in 3 plus games. My recommendation is play your entire team and play at the A level.
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Post by Mac15 »

I have no idea what 5hole's motive is in promoting these players but I thought I'd stick up for the Faribault girls youth program. Faribault is a D4 member and D4 so far has not had an A league for girls hockey. Faribault and Owatonna have been fairly successful by playing as a strong B program at 10U (and sometimes 12U) and when they get a strong nucleus at 12U or 14U they play A hockey in League 8. It works for them. They don't have the easy option to co-op with the next door suburb.
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Post by mnhcp »

It's, top players for 10U Girls.

Good luck with your daughter!
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Post by hockey121330 »

[I have no idea what 5hole's motive is in promoting these players but I thought I'd stick up for the Faribault girls youth program. Faribault is a D4 member and D4 so far has not had an A league for girls hockey. Faribault and Owatonna have been fairly successful by playing as a strong B program at 10U (and sometimes 12U) and when they get a strong nucleus at 12U or 14U they play A hockey in League 8. It works for them. They don't have the easy option to co-op with the next door suburb.]

Good point with some of the D4 teams where finding a competitive A League is not an easy task. Same holds true for the Northern teams, i.e. Duluth, Proctor, etc., the numbers just are not the same as some of the larger associations nor do they have the opportunity to co-op or even find a competive game at that level. I think the problems are when the teams that have the ability to play at a A level choose to play at a B level instead (see for 12B this year Chisago Lakes, Tartan, Mahtomedi in past years, 1 or 2 more teams out of D10, etc). I know its a 10U post but same holds true for the 10 levels too.
ICE IS COLD
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Post by ICE IS COLD »

Watch out for the first line from Centennial. We were beaten by them squarely. They seem to be a very deep 10U team. I like Edina as well. OMG grove looks very tough to.
nmnhockeydad
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Post by nmnhockeydad »

Where are the postings for the top four year old girls. Thats where we are seeming to go next. Does anyone actually care or know who the top 10U girls are? And how many of those girls will continue and play at higher levels. Lets get real!
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Post by lg1712 »

nmnhockeydad wrote:Where are the postings for the top four year old girls. Thats where we are seeming to go next. Does anyone actually care or know who the top 10U girls are? And how many of those girls will continue and play at higher levels. Lets get real!
Good point.
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Post by Idiot »

mnhcp wrote:It's, top players for 10U Girls.

Good luck with your daughter!
Is it 10U or U10, who really cares? If you want to be specific about all this then use correct punctuation. :roll:
surehockey
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Post by surehockey »

nmnhockeydad wrote:Where are the postings for the top four year old girls. Thats where we are seeming to go next. Does anyone actually care or know who the top 10U girls are? And how many of those girls will continue and play at higher levels. Lets get real!
Then why are you on this post??? What the boys are the only one's that can ask this question? I think that the girls who earn some kudos deserve just that, same as the boys. They work hard and are dedicated too!!! By the way I have 4 boys that play also, and they all get treated the same
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Post by OntheEdge »

lg1712 wrote:
nmnhockeydad wrote:Where are the postings for the top four year old girls. Thats where we are seeming to go next. Does anyone actually care or know who the top 10U girls are? And how many of those girls will continue and play at higher levels. Lets get real!
Good point.
Yes its a good point. Since I am a father of a HS player your comment made me think. I decided to look back to my daughter's 10UA team (the first year 10UA was established) to see how many girls are still playing. That year there were 2 10UB teams and 1 10UA team in our association. Of the team's 15 skaters and one goalie this is how the girls have progressed (the girls are now juniors and one girl is a sophomore):

7 are on Varsity (although 2 of them are at private schools)
3 are on Junior Varsity
6 are out of hockey

The top player from that team is a star on Varsity. Of the rest, I think all of the parents would be surprised at some of the girls that did and did not make it to the varsity level.

To illustrate if I ranked the 15 10UA skaters from 1-15 and then ranked the 10 that are still playing, the following would be their current order. Today's rank (10UA rank). 10UA ranks (3), (5), (9), (12) and (14) are out of hockey.

1(1)
2(15)
3(13)
4(4)
5 (8
6(6)
7(7)
8(10)
9(2)
10(11)

Even though the top player is still a top player some of the other top players no longer play hockey and a couple of the weakest players on this team are top Varsity players. Therefore I agree its tough to judge who is going to succeed based on play at the 10U level.
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Post by girlshockeyrocks »

2(15)...That is fantastic OTE.
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Post by State Champ 97 »

Fantastic point OTE. Some kids at 10U are just starting. They need time to develop.
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Post by goalie30 »

Any idea on how the lower rated girls (13 through 15) on the U10 team got so much better to be ranked in the top few now?

My daughter is on U10 A and is probably near the bottom of the talent right now (I think she made the team because she is the hardest working kid on the ice and the coach loved that). She loves hockey so it would be great to see her get better and better in the next several years.
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Post by observer »

Moving forward it's genetics and year around development. Different levels in the beginning can be based on one starting at 5 years old and the other at 8 (I call them "late starts"). Late starts can catch up (15 to 2) if they work hard and have athletic parents.
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Post by goalie30 »

She did start at age 8 (1 year at U8 and this is her 2nd year at U10). Dad is fairly athletic (track scholarship, no hockey background though) but mom's athletic prowess is limited to full-contact shopping.

We're probably going to put her in OS hockey this summer. I hear good things about the program.
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Post by OntheEdge »

goalie30 wrote:Any idea on how the lower rated girls (13 through 15) on the U10 team got so much better to be ranked in the top few now?

My daughter is on U10 A and is probably near the bottom of the talent right now (I think she made the team because she is the hardest working kid on the ice and the coach loved that). She loves hockey so it would be great to see her get better and better in the next several years.
I know exactly how 13 and 15 got to the top. By the way 13, 15 and 1 were the only ones to make it to Varsity in their first year of Varsity eligibility.

One of the girls is talented but was one of the younger girls on the U10A team. She was a first year and needed time to mature to catch up plus she worked hard in the summer. She really loves hockey and wants to be the best player on the team.

The other girl did it with hard work and determination. She is like your daughter and was a tireless worker. She really loves working out and getting better. Some girls make it on shear superior talent. Some make it on above average talent plus hard work. She was the latter spending summers doing whatever it took to get better (e.g. shooting and stickhandling in the backyard, camps, clinics, etc.)

I think the defining factor in all of the girls that make to the top is determination. You don't have to tell these kids to go shoot pucks or to practice their stickhandling. They do it without being told because they love it. They beg you to put them in a skating or stickhandling clinic. I know of many more talented girls that didn't make it because they didn't really want it enough. They were into boys or other things that were more important to them than hockey (which is ok).

Parents should never push their kids. Its a waste of time and money. I've seen many kids dropped off at clinics where you can see by their body language and their effort that they were there because dad wanted them to play hockey. Kids have to have their own inner drive and really love it to be successful.
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Post by OntheEdge »

goalie30 wrote:She did start at age 8 (1 year at U8 and this is her 2nd year at U10). Dad is fairly athletic (track scholarship, no hockey background though) but mom's athletic prowess is limited to full-contact shopping.

We're probably going to put her in OS hockey this summer. I hear good things about the program.
OS is good for the younger kids (U10-U12) but I would not rely on OS alone. I think as girls get older they need more weight training. After U12 or U14 I would consider CADP, FHIT or Pure Hockey.

At the youngest ages I think there are two additional clinics that I would spend most of my money on. Minnesota Made stickhandling and Scott Bjugstad shooting. Stickhandling is essential to the elite hockey player. I also think Scott Bjugstads shooting school is a must for the truly serious hockey player. Girls don't generally have strong upper bodies and shooting is difficult. Scott teaches them technique. If they use his technique and work hard, a girl can easily be the best shooter on the team in no time.
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Post by areaman »

Here's a slightly different question.
What about the B girls? Do they ever make the Varsity team?
Or on the boys side, what about a kid who plays B and C hockey. Any stories about them making the high school team?

We have a big association and I get the impression the die is cast by PeeWees/12U. If you aren't on the A team, you won't be playing high school hockey.
(and is it different for boys and girls?)
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Post by boardguy1998 »

areaman wrote:Here's a slightly different question.
What about the B girls? Do they ever make the Varsity team?
Or on the boys side, what about a kid who plays B and C hockey. Any stories about them making the high school team?

We have a big association and I get the impression the die is cast by PeeWees/12U. If you aren't on the A team, you won't be playing high school hockey.
(and is it different for boys and girls?)
See if you can find, I think it was April or May's of '09 Lets Play Hockey. They had an atricle in there about the EP State Title team, if I remember right, there was 2 Squirt C kids on that team.
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Post by OntheEdge »

areaman wrote:Here's a slightly different question.
What about the B girls? Do they ever make the Varsity team?
Or on the boys side, what about a kid who plays B and C hockey. Any stories about them making the high school team?

We have a big association and I get the impression the die is cast by PeeWees/12U. If you aren't on the A team, you won't be playing high school hockey.
(and is it different for boys and girls?)
Obviously it is a difficult task for a B team player to make varsity in a big association. In small to mid-sized associations its not as difficult and even probable. However, even in the big associations B players can make it. Our association is one of the biggest and many of the girls played B during their first year and A in the second year. There are examples of some girls that played B most of the time and making the Varsity in our community (and other communities) but I admit it is getting less and less likely due to the numbers and the elevation of play. I know at least one girl that was recently a captain on our Varsity after playing 2 years at U10 (there wasn't a U10A these years), one at U12B, one at U12A and her final youth year at U14B.
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