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AA Rankings for 1/31/10

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The snow is coming down in droves in DC, Georgetown put a beating on Duke today, and it’s been a week full of surprises in Minnesota hockey. Life is good.

The numbers after the team records are a) number of blowout wins (by 5 goals or more) and b) number of “bad” results (to teams more than ten spots below them). These do not necessarily mean anything in terms of the rankings; they’re just there for your amusement.

1. Minnetonka (19-0-1) 8/0
-So they are indeed mortal: Wayzata put a blemish on the Skippers’ record, though they remain undefeated. Games like this prove nothing can be taken for granted, and the Skippers will have to wait a while longer to clinch the top seed in the section. They’ve got a light week ahead of them, though Hopkins should not be taken for granted after they played Tonka reasonably well in the first meeting and tied Edina.
This week: Sat vs. Hopkins

2. Wayzata (14-2-2) 5/2
-Any doubt over the Trojans’ ability was put to rest on Saturday, when they achieved what no other team could do in tying Tonka--and very nearly beat them. Though their losses are a bit weaker than some of the other teams up here, this result combined with some of their other strong wins recently gives them the edge. Things get no easier now, with a trip to Hopkins followed by a chance to sweep the 3-game season series against Edina at Braemar.
This week: Thurs at Hopkins, Sat at #8 Edina

3. Eden Prairie (15-3) 7/0
-The loss to Eagan was a minor setback, but they responded well enough that I didn’t drop them as far as I could have, and of course they already have one big win over Eagan this year. Still need to find some more variety in their scoring. Their next three games are the biggest ones left on their schedule; the Burnsville game has suddenly taken on huge meaning.
This week: Thurs at #9 Burnsville, Sat vs. #12 Duluth East

4. Blaine (13-3-3) 5/1
-The second win over Osseo was a huge step towards sealing up the NWSC and the top seed in 5AA, though there are still plenty of tests left on the schedule. Face one of their toughest NWSC games this week when they head up to Elk River.
This week: Thurs vs. Champlin Park, Sat at #10 Elk River

5. Hill-Murray (17-1-1) 7/1
-The Pioneers collected their third straight shutout on Saturday as they continue their demolition of the lower tiers of the CSC. I continue to shove them around between #s 2-5 due to their weak schedule, based on what the teams around them are doing; if they run the table from here, which they probably should, they’ll probably move up some. The road gets significantly harder this week, as they take on two of Class A’s finest, both of which gave Hill a good run in their first meetings of the year.
This week: Thurs vs. Mahtomedi, Sat vs. St. Thomas Academy

6. Bloomington Jefferson (14-3-2) 10/1
-Got a pair of wins against quality teams this week, which helps fight their inconsistent reputation. Just about every team in this area of the rankings now has a bad result on the books somewhere, so the Lakeville North loss doesn’t look so painful now. Huge week ahead of them, as they get a shot at revenge against Eagan and face a suddenly potent Moorhead team on the road.
This week: Thurs at #7 Eagan, Sat at #14 Moorhead

7. Eagan (15-3-1) 4/0
-A roller coaster of a week; they top Eden Prairie, then get thrashed by Burnsville. When this team loses, they sure lose big. 5 of the Burnsville goals in the 8-2 loss came in the 3rd, so I don’t think they’re as bad as that game made them look, but that doesn’t excuse the result. They spend the week playing teams from Bloomington and have a chance to validate that first win of theirs over the Jags.
This week: Thurs vs. #6 Bloomington Jefferson, Sat at Bloomington Kennedy

8. Edina (12-5-2) 1/2
-The freefall continues: the Hornets have only won one of their last six, and the two this week were ugly. They proved they’re better than this earlier in the year, but they have a ways to go to reclaim their status. Fortunately, they have a recovery game against Armstrong before they go after Wayzata for the 3rd time this year.
This week: Thurs vs. Armstrong, Sat vs. #2 Wayzata

9. Burnsville (10-6-3) 5/3(?)--depends where you put Mahtomedi
-The record may not look good, but this team is absolutely on fire right now. They’re 8-1-1 in their last ten, and this is not against cupcake competition: they’ve beaten LVS, AV, CDH and Eagan--all by convincing margins--while tying Jefferson and barely losing to Wayzata. This team is legit and deserves to be ranked as such. Only two real loseable games left on the schedule, and one is this Thursday.
This week: Thurs vs. #3 Eden Prairie, Sat at Chaska

10. Elk River (12-5-2) 4/0
-Quietly putting together a very strong, consistent season; they avenged the only poor loss on the schedule on Saturday in a shutout of Maple Grove. Huge week ahead of them, as they play Andover in a game with section 7AA seeding implications and then look to make a statement against Blaine.
This week: Thurs vs. #15 Andover, Sat vs. #4 Blaine

11. Centennial (11-5-2) 5/0
-Finally putting it together at the season’s most crucial juncture; I’m giving them the nod over East despite the head-to-head result due to the recent big wins over Andover and Moorhead--two teams East couldn’t beat. One game that could cause trouble this week if they’re not careful.
This week: Thurs vs. Anoka, Sat vs. Maple Grove

12. Duluth East (11-5-3) 2/0
-The Hounds’ scoring woes continue, as they score 2 each in scraping by Forest Lake and tying Andover while heavily outshooting both. Their overall body of work looks quite nice, but they need to actually score goals to have a chance at a state tournament. Huge week ahead of them as they play a semi-rival, a dangerous Lake team, and one of the top teams in the state.
This week: MON at Superior (WI) [Edit: day changed due to caucuses Tuesday], Thurs vs. Apple Valley, Sat at #3 Eden Prairie

13. Holy Angels (11-6-1) 10/1
-Did what was expected against two Missota teams. Two more on the docket this week, but then a game that will be just a little bit more challenging. It’ll be interesting to see how they stack up after Breck played SSM relatively well.
This week: Mon at Shakopee, Thurs vs. New Prague, Sat vs. Shattuck-St. Mary’s

14. Moorhead (8-7-2) 3/1
-Welcome back to the rankings, Spuds; the Potatoes had a huge week with wins over then-ranked Roseau and Benilde-St. Margaret’s. The record is still ugly, but that’s not too shocking with the schedule they play, and the challenges don’t stop here.
This week: Thurs at East Grand Forks, Sat vs. #6 Bloomington Jefferson


15. Andover (13-4-2) 7/0
-The Huskies make their ranking debut after tying Duluth East, despite getting outshot badly and barely scraping by Cloquet the next night. They’re putting together their best results at the most important time; we’ll see if they can sustain that as they head to Elk River.
This week: Thurs at #10 Elk River, Sat vs. Champlin Park

Just Missing
Osseo (12-5-2)
-Played Blaine well once again, but other teams’ jumps knock them temporarily from the rankings. Easy week ahead.
Benilde-St. Margaret’s (12-4-2)
-The Red Knights’ bumpy season goes on as they lose to Moorhead. Record looks nice, but the schedule is very weak and some of the losses now look rather ugly. Play Shattuck this week.
Maple Grove (10-6-2)
-Not playing their best hockey down the stretch and sliding backwards because of it. Potential for a bounce-back against Centennial this week, who they’ve already beaten this year.
Roseau (13-3-1)
-Loss to Moorhead was a big blow. Need at least two, maybe three wins this week to get their season back on track as they play Warroad, Brainerd, and St. Cloud Tech.
Apple Valley (12-7)
-Continue to lack that authoritative win they need to go higher.

I’m going to be selective this week and not ramble on any further. On to the sections:

1AA
Lakeville South
Lakeville North?
-South slides out of the top 20 but remains the odds-on favorite. Section final very likely to feature the two Lakevilles.

2AA
6 Bloomington Jefferson
8 Edina
9 Burnsville
13 Holy Angels
-A complete mess; your guess on the seeding is as good as mine. The good news is that, with four quality teams, it doesn’t really matter all that much. Whoever wins this section will have beaten two excellent teams. I cannot say enough about how impressed I am with Burnsville’s run.

3AA
7 Eagan
(20) Apple Valley
Cretin-Derham Hall
Woodbury
-Eagan remains pretty far ahead, but their blowout losses make this far from a shoo-in. The story here is Cretin, who emerged from their lengthy slumber this week and reminded everyone that they are the defending section champs and can play with anyone in the right set of circumstances. Apple Valley continues to hover, and though Woodbury had a rough week, they can’t be counted out.

4AA
5 Hill-Murray
Stillwater
White Bear Lake
Tartan
-The hard-charging Ponies are the ones making noise here; though Hill remains miles ahead, Stilly has a shot if they can build on their recent momentum. White Bear Lake has a bit week ahead of them to prove if they should be in the picture or not, and Tartan continues to hover around the edges.

5AA
4 Blaine
11 Centennial
(16) Osseo
(18) Maple Grove
-We’re back to the two usual culprits on top, though MG and Osseo are serious semifinal threats. Blaine maintains its steady lead, though.

6AA
1 Minnetonka
2 Wayzata
3 Eden Prairie
(17) Benilde
-Oh no; the top three teams are all in one section--one of the semifinals here may be better than 7 of the section finals. Further complicating section seeding is the Benilde win over Wayzata, though hopefully the tie with Tonka will throw that out of the equation. The #1 seed will likely be decided in the Tonka-Wayzata rematch. What a circus this tournament is going to be; even Hopkins is looming there as a possible upset threat.

7AA
10 Elk River
12 Duluth East
15 Andover
Forest Lake
Grand Rapids
-A very interesting race; though the seeding is close to being set, any of these five teams could beat any of the others on a given night. The big story now is Flake, who’s making waves in the SEC and gave East a good run for its money. Even some of the lower seeds might not be capable of causing problems; Cloquet very nearly got to Andover, and though I don’t think the Joey Benik show in St. Franny could cause an upset, you never know.

8AA
14 Moorhead
(19) Roseau
Brainerd?
Bemidji?
-Moorhead’s big win causes a flip-flop at the top. Brainerd continues to do nothing but win; we’ll see shortly if they’ve improved on that ugly early loss to the Spuds. Bemidji does a good job of hanging with most teams as well, so we could have a race on.

There you go. Again, lots of great games this week; head out and enjoy one.
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Post by playerplayer1 »

Good job as usual Karl. Some teams to look out for down the stretch that aren't ranked are Stillwater, CDH, WBL and Forest Lake. All from the same conference but one of them is going to go on a run and take the conference if Woodbury slips a little as they did today.
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Post by Roseauverrated »

Solid rankings Karl, can't say I disagree with anything. I like how the top 3 teams in the state are all in the same section; shows how screwed up and unfair the playoff system is. I think the 6AA championship game will feature 2 better teams than the state championship game will have. It really is a shame.
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Post by Gov78 »

Roseauverrated wrote:Solid rankings Karl, can't say I disagree with anything. I like how the top 3 teams in the state are all in the same section; shows how screwed up and unfair the playoff system is. I think the 6AA championship game will feature 2 better teams than the state championship game will have. It really is a shame.
Brings up the ongoing question/issue with MSHSL and competitive realignment. Do you actually try to distribute the stronger schools into different sections so the better teams make it to state or do you try to get a regional distribution so less strong teams have a chance to make it and keep state-wide interest?

Do we go to a 1-64 seeding? I was at the Frozen Four in Columbus OH when it was all WCHA and the fan interest was poor. I've been attending the HS tournament for almost 40 years and the best finals from a fan perspective is the big/small or city/outstate final.
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Gov78 wrote:
Roseauverrated wrote:Solid rankings Karl, can't say I disagree with anything. I like how the top 3 teams in the state are all in the same section; shows how screwed up and unfair the playoff system is. I think the 6AA championship game will feature 2 better teams than the state championship game will have. It really is a shame.
Brings up the ongoing question/issue with MSHSL and competitive realignment. Do you actually try to distribute the stronger schools into different sections so the better teams make it to state or do you try to get a regional distribution so less strong teams have a chance to make it and keep state-wide interest?

Do we go to a 1-64 seeding? I was at the Frozen Four in Columbus OH when it was all WCHA and the fan interest was poor. I've been attending the HS tournament for almost 40 years and the best finals from a fan perspective is the big/small or city/outstate final.
That would be great and sounds like a lot of fun but I think the travel invloved would be too difficult for some. Otherwise it would be fun to have the Great 8 play at the X!!
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Post by youngblood08 »

If we have learned anything from the History of the Tournament. It's that it's not always the BEST team that wins, just the group playing the BEST at the right time.
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Post by Gov78 »

playerplayer1 wrote:
Gov78 wrote:
Roseauverrated wrote:Solid rankings Karl, can't say I disagree with anything. I like how the top 3 teams in the state are all in the same section; shows how screwed up and unfair the playoff system is. I think the 6AA championship game will feature 2 better teams than the state championship game will have. It really is a shame.
Brings up the ongoing question/issue with MSHSL and competitive realignment. Do you actually try to distribute the stronger schools into different sections so the better teams make it to state or do you try to get a regional distribution so less strong teams have a chance to make it and keep state-wide interest?

Do we go to a 1-64 seeding? I was at the Frozen Four in Columbus OH when it was all WCHA and the fan interest was poor. I've been attending the HS tournament for almost 40 years and the best finals from a fan perspective is the big/small or city/outstate final.
That would be great and sounds like a lot of fun but I think the travel invloved would be too difficult for some. Otherwise it would be fun to have the Great 8 play at the X!!
It's not an easy situation to resolve, which section wants to take EP, Tonka, Wayzata or Hopkins into their section? The new Lake Conference exists primarily because no one else wants these 5 schools (I don't believe the crap about travel) do you split these schools into different sections? Edina already moved to 2AA and there was/are a lot of people unhappy with that move (especially AHA fans).
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Post by schwang17 »

Good work as always, Karl.

I still think Jefferson and Hill are both better than Blaine - time will tell. As you and I have both noted, Burnsville is hotter than pistols right now - I would not want to face them anytime soon. The Target Center may not have a roof by the time 2AA and 6AA playoffs are done. Some section playoffs those are looking to be.
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youngblood08 wrote:If we have learned anything from the History of the Tournament. It's that it's not always the BEST team that wins, just the group playing the BEST at the right time.
Absolutely correct there youngblood08.
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Roseauverrated wrote:Solid rankings Karl, can't say I disagree with anything. I like how the top 3 teams in the state are all in the same section; shows how screwed up and unfair the playoff system is. I think the 6AA championship game will feature 2 better teams than the state championship game will have. It really is a shame.
Whether we like it or not, the MSHSL is all about equal representation. Not only for all regions of the state, but for all schools around the state. There are many examples of this. Here are a couple examples:
-They still don't seed in many sports, and in ones they do, they don't do all teams.
-Every team makes the playoffs. I don't know about a lot of other states, but I know there are at least some where you success during the season determines whether or not you make the playoffs.
-Look at individual sports; regardless of ability, you get x number of people to compete. Two per event in track, seven in CC, etc. You could have a 3rd guy who's faster than everyone else in your section, but since the two fastest guys are at your school, he doesn't get in.
-Class system. In college it makes sense because of the sheer size difference and financial abilities of schools.

Happens every year. Get over it.
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youngblood08 wrote:If we have learned anything from the History of the Tournament. It's that it's not always the BEST team that wins, just the group playing the BEST at the right time.
Absolutely correct there youngblood08.
Really? I say this just about every year and I always get a dozen people jumping down my throat saying I don't know anything.

Tonka's probably going to go to the section final game with no less than 25 wins. If they lose in the 5th OT to Wayzata, Lakeville North gets hot and wins state, is there any doubt in anyone's mind who the best team in state was?

It's a tournament to see who can play the best for 6 games and get state recognition. The best team should win state, but it doesn't always happen.
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So much for Eagan. Burnsville blitzes them 8-2 to keep ahead of Chaska East for the #3 seed. Current 2AA seeding:

1 - Jags
2 - Cake
3 - Blaze
4 - Stars (only 1 signature win vs. MN HS teams)
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Post by BodyShots »

Karl, I think it would be interesting if you listed the previous weeks rankings to the current rankings. A couple of things jump out at me.

It amazes me how some teams drop when they have perfect weeks. For instance, HM goes from #3 to #5 and whipped both of the teams they played this past week. Elk River and AHA also dropped without a blemish to their record during the week.

Blaine moves up two spots (jumping HM) just because they beat Osseo and Anoka. Why?

Boy you are sure riding the Burnsville band wagon. Going from a bubble team last week to #9. Yeah they beat Eagan, but it was their third game in 5 days. They also beat AV, who hasn't done much to impress anybody this year. I think you are a little overboard with this big of a jump. Maybe #12 at this time would be more realistic.
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I think giving Moorhead a spot back is a little too early. I think the test is coming this week if they deserve a spot in the top. If they can stay within 4 goals of Bloomington Jefferson then they can get put back in. I still give the nod to Roseau. Moorhead either has bad luck, bad coaching, or something else. I don't think this is the year for section 8AA, although, I said the same thing last year and Moorhead ended up in the finals. We'll see.
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Pucklvr wrote:I think giving Moorhead a spot back is a little too early. I think the test is coming this week if they deserve a spot in the top. If they can stay within 4 goals of Bloomington Jefferson then they can get put back in. I still give the nod to Roseau. Moorhead either has bad luck, bad coaching, or something else. I don't think this is the year for section 8AA, although, I said the same thing last year and Moorhead ended up in the finals. We'll see.
I hype the Jags as much as anybody but the Moorhead - Jefferson game WILL be closer than 4 goals. The game was 4-1 last time and could've easily been closer. Moorhead is playing better now than they were then so I expect a really good game.

As for "giving the nod to Roseau", you can't when Moorhead just ran them out of the building and Warroad beat them on their home ice. Throw in their softer schedule and there is no way you can put them above anybody Karl has listed.

That said, I agree with you on Hill. They should be flip-flopped with Blaine.
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Post by mn man »

BodyShots wrote:...Boy you are sure riding the Burnsville band wagon. Going from a bubble team last week to #9. Yeah they beat Eagan, but it was their third game in 5 days. They also beat AV, who hasn't done much to impress anybody this year. I think you are a little overboard with this big of a jump. Maybe #12 at this time would be more realistic.
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Looking at their results recently, I think Burnsville is for real. They have tied Eagan once and then pounded them 8-2, they tied the Jags. They tied EP also, if I remember correctly, and then lost in OT. They played Wayzata tough (lost 4-3). I think Karl is pretty accurate, maybe they were ranked too low in previous weeks.
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BodyShots wrote:Karl, I think it would be interesting if you listed the previous weeks rankings to the current rankings. A couple of things jump out at me.

It amazes me how some teams drop when they have perfect weeks. For instance, HM goes from #3 to #5 and whipped both of the teams they played this past week. Elk River and AHA also dropped without a blemish to their record during the week.

Blaine moves up two spots (jumping HM) just because they beat Osseo and Anoka. Why?

Boy you are sure riding the Burnsville band wagon. Going from a bubble team last week to #9. Yeah they beat Eagan, but it was their third game in 5 days. They also beat AV, who hasn't done much to impress anybody this year. I think you are a little overboard with this big of a jump. Maybe #12 at this time would be more realistic.
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An important thing to remember is that I really don't look at the previous week's ranking when doing them for this week. I basically re-invent the wheel each time. I've tried both ways and find that I prefer doing it all over again; otherwise sometimes I get stuck in certain ruts, and if I decide that I was probably wrong last week, I'm not going to continue to justify something that was wrong to make myself look good. The goal here is to be right.

So yes, I do think I had Hill too high last week. I even said so at the time. Wayzata's tie with Tonka definitely moves them ahead of Hill, and after going over their record again I don't think it's enough to overcome the head-to-head loss to Blaine, especially as Blaine continues to prove itself by controlling the NWSC race.

That accounts for one of the spots Blaine gained. The other comes from Edina dropping. That's why they're two spots higher.

As I explained in the Elk River comment last week, I felt they were a little high. It was a bit of a gamble, but their win over MG this week helped justify that, in my mind. But Burnsville made its leap, so they slide backwards.

AHA went back one spot due to the Burnsville jump, and the second spot was because Centennial continued its hot streak and got another important win. In general, I would say that teams with weak schedules (AHA, Hill) are more susceptible to being pushed around in the rankings--it's because the teams around them playing tough schedules are going to get rewarded for big wins more than they are for slaughtering their weak conference opponents.

Burnsville bandwagon? You bet I'm on it. As I've been saying in their comment for several weeks now, it's been very difficult not to rate them. In fact, last week I wrote "I would not be at all shocked to see them make a leap," and I really meant that. If I ranked solely based on my gut, they would've been up around #12 last week. But I waited for something to justify the jump with, and I sure got it this week. (And I don't really buy the 3 games in 5 days argument, especially when none of them were on back-to-back days.) But the bottom line with Burnsville is that their results in January match up with anyone not named Minnetonka.

Schwang has the Moorhead argument about right. Since they beat #16 and #19 this past week, I can't really put them much lower. Maybe one spot; I'd call it a toss-up between them and Andover for 14. I rewarded the stronger schedule.

One last point: Oftentimes, I think what I say in the comment section is way more important than the number itself.
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The east superior game is on monday not tuesday
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Post by dump and chase »

Great job as always karl! :D

I am also on the burnsville band wagon. I think this team is one of the teams playing very well down the strech. The battle for the lake is going to be a good one down to the wire. We are now seeing that the lake is no longer a two team confrence and i think they will be well represented at the tourney come march!
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Post by LASERBLUE135 »

Moorehead is too high, Osseo is a much better fit there.
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LASERBLUE135 wrote:Moorehead is too high, Osseo is a much better fit there.
Laser I would agree with you on your comment Osseo deserves the Spuds spot in the rankings right now. That is a solid team overlooked a bit by karl. Spuds have to string another nice week together to get in the mix.
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Post by MNHockey75 »

A few things from me. 1) Holy Angels hasn't done enough to get a top 15 IMHO. 2) Eagan getting blasted by Burnsville pushes them out of the top 10. 3) Osseo has proven to be a top 10-15 team to me.
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northwoods oldtimer wrote:
LASERBLUE135 wrote:Moorehead is too high, Osseo is a much better fit there.
Laser I would agree with you on your comment Osseo deserves the Spuds spot in the rankings right now. That is a solid team overlooked a bit by karl. Spuds have to string another nice week together to get in the mix.
The thought process was this:

Osseo has one thing going for it against Moorhead--they tied Wayzata, when the Spuds tied them twice.

But the results against some of the other common opponents--both tied against ER, lost to Centennial--don't say much.

The biggest factor between these two was probably Benilde, then. Osseo just tied Benilde (whom they are next to in the rankings), while Moorhead had little trouble with them.

I'm also rewarding the hot team, which Moorhead obviously is. Osseo, on the other hand, has gone a bit cold lately--they're 2-3-1 in their last six, and the only wins were by 2 goals each over North Metro and Champlin Park. The Andover loss hurt, too.
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MNHockey75 wrote:A few things from me. 1) Holy Angels hasn't done enough to get a top 15 IMHO. 2) Eagan getting blasted by Burnsville pushes them out of the top 10. 3) Osseo has proven to be a top 10-15 team to me.
That may be the case with AHA; they're hard to rank. But they beat a good Elk River team pretty handily, and though the Edina tie is diminishing in status as the Hornets fall, that's pretty big too. They took Hill to OT as well, so they certainly can compete with some top teams.

Eagan had a bad loss, yes, but they also had an equally great win by knocking off EP. And though Burnsville deserves a lot of credit for that win, they scored 5 goals in the 3rd, many of them relatively late; the game wasn't quite as uneven as the score suggests. I think it reflects more on Burnsville than Eagan.
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karl(east) wrote:
northwoods oldtimer wrote:
LASERBLUE135 wrote:Moorehead is too high, Osseo is a much better fit there.
Laser I would agree with you on your comment Osseo deserves the Spuds spot in the rankings right now. That is a solid team overlooked a bit by karl. Spuds have to string another nice week together to get in the mix.
The thought process was this:

Osseo has one thing going for it against Moorhead--they tied Wayzata, when the Spuds tied them twice.

But the results against some of the other common opponents--both tied against ER, lost to Centennial--don't say much.

The biggest factor between these two was probably Benilde, then. Osseo just tied Benilde (whom they are next to in the rankings), while Moorhead had little trouble with them.

I'm also rewarding the hot team, which Moorhead obviously is. Osseo, on the other hand, has gone a bit cold lately--they're 2-3-1 in their last six, and the only wins were by 2 goals each over North Metro and Champlin Park. The Andover loss hurt, too.
Good call Karl I missed the Andover score, for some reason I had Osseo down as beating Andover. That did not occur thus the 'must win' games that Osseo needed to garner credit did not occur, that being the 'Cent' game and Andover game both highly pivotal games.
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karl(east) wrote:
MNHockey75 wrote:A few things from me. 1) Holy Angels hasn't done enough to get a top 15 IMHO. 2) Eagan getting blasted by Burnsville pushes them out of the top 10. 3) Osseo has proven to be a top 10-15 team to me.
That may be the case with AHA; they're hard to rank. But they beat a good Elk River team pretty handily, and though the Edina tie is diminishing in status as the Hornets fall, that's pretty big too. They took Hill to OT as well, so they certainly can compete with some top teams.

Eagan had a bad loss, yes, but they also had an equally great win by knocking off EP. And though Burnsville deserves a lot of credit for that win, they scored 5 goals in the 3rd, many of them relatively late; the game wasn't quite as uneven as the score suggests. I think it reflects more on Burnsville than Eagan.
Wow, didn't see you at the game. :shock: 4-2, with an empty net. Nice to see you making the trip from D.C.
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