Class A Rankings 2-14-10
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Class A Rankings 2-14-10
The toughest part about the Class A rankings this year is the very few common games between the top teams.
Next week I will be giving a breakdown by section as well with sections just around the corner. Good luck to all teams.
1. St Thomas Academy (19-4)
The Cadets have an opportunity to end the year with a second consecutive conference title (although it will be shared). Both of their games this week are home games and if they win both they will have a 15 game win streak going into sections with Mahtomedi the probable #2 seed.
-This week: South St Paul (Tues, 7:30pm), Mahtomedi (Thurs, 7:30pm)
2. Breck (20-2)
In the Mustang’s 15 games this year, 3 have given them a game. Of those 3, they won 2 and lost 1. The wins were by a total of 3 goals. Personally, I feel they will get exposed at state and if Hermantown or Warroad hadn’t had a couple bumps, they’d probably replace Breck here.
-This week: St Paul Saints (Tues, 7:30pm), Totino-Grace (Thurs, 7:30pm), @Blake (Sat, 2pm)
3. Mahtomedi (18-5)
While they will probably end the season with 6 losses, the Zephyrs have only lost to 3 teams all season. They have beaten some good teams in both classes and their losses were tight. Their 4 losses this year were by a total of 8 goals. They beat Virginia this year and Burnsville last year.
-This week: @Simley (Tues, 7:30pm), @St Thomas (Thurs, 7:30pm)
4. Warroad (17-4)
The Warriors are playing good hockey as of late. Hermantown’s recent slips along with their Denfeld/Marshall score comparisons bring Warroad up.
-This week: @Lake of the Woods (Tues, 7:30pm)
5. Hermantown (20-3)
Overtime games with Cloquet and Denfeld? I’m not sure what that does to the 5A seedings, being that it’s so close to the end of the season.
-This week: Duluth Central (Tues, 7:30pm), Hibbing (Fri, 7:30pm)
6. Alexandria (17-5-1)
Possibly too big of a jump for the Cardinals, but now on a ten game winning streak, they should have the top seed in 6A locked up.
-This week: @River Lakes (Tues, 7pm), @Moorhead (Fri, 7:30pm)
7. International Falls (14-7-2)
The Broncos are playing well as of late. If Virginia loses to Hibbing this week, they could end up with the top seed in 7A.
-This week: Roseau (Tues, 7:30pm), Fort Frances (Fri, 7:30pm)
8. Sartell-St Stephen (16-6-2)
They would be a few spots higher as beating Virginia definitely helps, but losing to Alexandria drops them below them. The Brainerd game on Tuesday will be a big game for both teams.
-This week: @Brainerd (Tues, 7pm)
9. Virginia (15-6-3)
The Blue Devils are doing well as of late; they beat Hibbing and they should be the top seed and have their state destiny in their hands.
-This week: @Hibbing (Tues, 7:30pm)
10. Thief River Falls (16-7)
Losing to Roseau by 1 goal in Roseau is definitely good. Two away games this week will help prepare them for sections and probably a top two seed.
-This week: @EGF (Tues, 7:30pm), @Bemidji (Thurs, 7:30pm)
11. Rochester Lourdes (13-7-3)
They deserve respect and I have trouble gauging how high to raise them by good losses, but their losses to Breck/St Thomas do show they should not be left out of consideration for a first round upset at state should they make it.
-This week: @Mankato West (Tues, 7:30pm), Totino-Grace (Sat, 7:30pm)
12. Sauk Rapids-Rice (11-10-1)
Going back to their older goalie they lost a bad game to Alex and put the younger back in against Brainerd and kept it close. Hopefully they decide to have the younger goalie start at their section games.
-This week: St Cloud Apollo (Tues, 7pm), St Cloud Tech (Thurs, 7pm), @Pine City (Sat, 7:30pm)
13. New Prague (14-6-2)
Coming out of the Missota, it’s quite tough to know how good this team is. Their two most recent losses are both to Holy Angels, and they recently tied Lourdes. They will be a top 4 team in 1A and, having beaten Albert Lea, probably top 2 behind Lourdes.
-This week: @Northfield (Tues, 7:30pm), Hutchinson (Fri, 7pm)
14. Totino-Grace (12-9-1)
The Eagles have 3 big away games this week. The first will probably decide their section seed and the others help prepare them for sections. Tying Benilde helps a lot, but they still have to get through Spring Lake Park this week.
-This week: @Spring Lake Park (Tues, 7:30pm), @Breck (Thurs, 7:30pm), @Rochester Lourdes (Sat, 7:30pm)
15. Hibbing (11-9-2)
Hibbing has HUGE games this week. They may control their own destiny in section seeding, it’s tough to tell. It’s definitely a four team race that could go any way.
-This week: Virginia (Tues, 7:30pm), @Hermantown (Fri, 7:30pm)
16. Delano (15-7-1)
The Tigers would be higher if they hadn’t lost to Litchfield of tied Cathedral. It would be much easier to rank them in they played more section opponents, like Breck or Blake.
-This week: @Mound-Westonka (Fri, 7pm)
17. St Cloud Cathedral (14-7-1)
Tying Delano kept the conference title a reality for the Crusaders, and they have a shot at only losing one of their games prior to the start of sections.
-This week: Mound-Westonka (Tues, 7:15pm), Waconia (Thurs, 7:15pm), @Duluth Marshall (Sat, 3:30pm)
18. Duluth Marshall (10-12-1)
The Hilltoppers are definitely not a team to count out. They have played many good teams this season and have tournament experience. While they are not a favorite, it would not be a surprise to see them in the 7A final.
-This week: St Cloud Cathedral (Sat, 3:30pm)
19. Spring Lake Park (18-5)
Losing to Totino-Grace by one then losing to Mahtomedi by one is confusing. Hopefully for them they beat Totino the second time around and get the 3rd seed in 4A.
-This week: Totino-Grace (Tues, 7:30pm), @Brainerd (Sat, 4pm)
20. Blake (16-7)
I figured I’d keep them in the top 20 for one more week, but losing to St Paul Johnson really doesn’t help them right now.
-This week: @Providence Academy (Tues, 7pm), Breck (Sat, 2pm)
Bubble Teams:
1A
Faribault (17-6)
While their loss to Lourdes tells me they aren’t a threat to win state or as far as state rankings go, they are a top 4 team in a section, so they deserve to be mentioned. The Falcons are 9-2 in their last 11 games, but both losses are to section opponents. They’ll have to beat multiple teams they’ve already lost to to hold onto a chance at making it to state.
-This week: Rochester Mayo (Thurs, 7:30pm), @St Peter (Sat, 7pm)
Red Wing (11-11)
While I have to admit they have gone unnoticed by me all season, and I’m not ranking them due to their loss to recently above .500 Albert Lea, the Wingers have a shot at wide open 1A.
-This week: @Mankato East (Mon, 5:30pm), Rochester Mayo (Tues, 7:30pm), Austin (Thurs, 7:30pm)
3A
Redwood Valley (17-3-1)
A couple slips this week for the Cardinals, but they are probably still a top 4 seed in the section. It would be great to see them make it to the X.
-This week: St Peter (Thurs, 7:15pm), Minneapolis West (Sat, 3pm)
Litchfield (12-8)
Probably not a top team in state, but a top 4 team in their section with a realistic shot at getting to the X like they did two years ago.
-This week: New Ulm (Mon, 7pm), @Waconia (Tues, 7pm), @Holy Family Catholic (Thurs, 7pm)
5A
Duluth Denfeld (12-10-2)
While I doubt the Hunters have a good chance of winning this week, they will finish the season above .500 and not be a team to count out of any game in sections.
-This week: Grand Rapids (Tues, 7:30pm)
6A
Detroit Lakes (15-7-2)
The Lakers definitely the favorite to win any games past the quarterfinals, but they are not a team to overlook either. I would guess they’ll end up with a top 4 seed in sections.
-This week: @Bemidji (Tues, 7:30pm)
8A
East Grand Forks (11-13)
Nothing new here; the Green Wave definitely are hard to rank as they have beaten the Warriors but have lost to Crookston. They will probably get the #3 seed and have to upset TRF to have a shot at the Warriors again.
-This week: Thief River Falls (Tues, 7:30pm)
Next week I will be giving a breakdown by section as well with sections just around the corner. Good luck to all teams.
1. St Thomas Academy (19-4)
The Cadets have an opportunity to end the year with a second consecutive conference title (although it will be shared). Both of their games this week are home games and if they win both they will have a 15 game win streak going into sections with Mahtomedi the probable #2 seed.
-This week: South St Paul (Tues, 7:30pm), Mahtomedi (Thurs, 7:30pm)
2. Breck (20-2)
In the Mustang’s 15 games this year, 3 have given them a game. Of those 3, they won 2 and lost 1. The wins were by a total of 3 goals. Personally, I feel they will get exposed at state and if Hermantown or Warroad hadn’t had a couple bumps, they’d probably replace Breck here.
-This week: St Paul Saints (Tues, 7:30pm), Totino-Grace (Thurs, 7:30pm), @Blake (Sat, 2pm)
3. Mahtomedi (18-5)
While they will probably end the season with 6 losses, the Zephyrs have only lost to 3 teams all season. They have beaten some good teams in both classes and their losses were tight. Their 4 losses this year were by a total of 8 goals. They beat Virginia this year and Burnsville last year.
-This week: @Simley (Tues, 7:30pm), @St Thomas (Thurs, 7:30pm)
4. Warroad (17-4)
The Warriors are playing good hockey as of late. Hermantown’s recent slips along with their Denfeld/Marshall score comparisons bring Warroad up.
-This week: @Lake of the Woods (Tues, 7:30pm)
5. Hermantown (20-3)
Overtime games with Cloquet and Denfeld? I’m not sure what that does to the 5A seedings, being that it’s so close to the end of the season.
-This week: Duluth Central (Tues, 7:30pm), Hibbing (Fri, 7:30pm)
6. Alexandria (17-5-1)
Possibly too big of a jump for the Cardinals, but now on a ten game winning streak, they should have the top seed in 6A locked up.
-This week: @River Lakes (Tues, 7pm), @Moorhead (Fri, 7:30pm)
7. International Falls (14-7-2)
The Broncos are playing well as of late. If Virginia loses to Hibbing this week, they could end up with the top seed in 7A.
-This week: Roseau (Tues, 7:30pm), Fort Frances (Fri, 7:30pm)
8. Sartell-St Stephen (16-6-2)
They would be a few spots higher as beating Virginia definitely helps, but losing to Alexandria drops them below them. The Brainerd game on Tuesday will be a big game for both teams.
-This week: @Brainerd (Tues, 7pm)
9. Virginia (15-6-3)
The Blue Devils are doing well as of late; they beat Hibbing and they should be the top seed and have their state destiny in their hands.
-This week: @Hibbing (Tues, 7:30pm)
10. Thief River Falls (16-7)
Losing to Roseau by 1 goal in Roseau is definitely good. Two away games this week will help prepare them for sections and probably a top two seed.
-This week: @EGF (Tues, 7:30pm), @Bemidji (Thurs, 7:30pm)
11. Rochester Lourdes (13-7-3)
They deserve respect and I have trouble gauging how high to raise them by good losses, but their losses to Breck/St Thomas do show they should not be left out of consideration for a first round upset at state should they make it.
-This week: @Mankato West (Tues, 7:30pm), Totino-Grace (Sat, 7:30pm)
12. Sauk Rapids-Rice (11-10-1)
Going back to their older goalie they lost a bad game to Alex and put the younger back in against Brainerd and kept it close. Hopefully they decide to have the younger goalie start at their section games.
-This week: St Cloud Apollo (Tues, 7pm), St Cloud Tech (Thurs, 7pm), @Pine City (Sat, 7:30pm)
13. New Prague (14-6-2)
Coming out of the Missota, it’s quite tough to know how good this team is. Their two most recent losses are both to Holy Angels, and they recently tied Lourdes. They will be a top 4 team in 1A and, having beaten Albert Lea, probably top 2 behind Lourdes.
-This week: @Northfield (Tues, 7:30pm), Hutchinson (Fri, 7pm)
14. Totino-Grace (12-9-1)
The Eagles have 3 big away games this week. The first will probably decide their section seed and the others help prepare them for sections. Tying Benilde helps a lot, but they still have to get through Spring Lake Park this week.
-This week: @Spring Lake Park (Tues, 7:30pm), @Breck (Thurs, 7:30pm), @Rochester Lourdes (Sat, 7:30pm)
15. Hibbing (11-9-2)
Hibbing has HUGE games this week. They may control their own destiny in section seeding, it’s tough to tell. It’s definitely a four team race that could go any way.
-This week: Virginia (Tues, 7:30pm), @Hermantown (Fri, 7:30pm)
16. Delano (15-7-1)
The Tigers would be higher if they hadn’t lost to Litchfield of tied Cathedral. It would be much easier to rank them in they played more section opponents, like Breck or Blake.
-This week: @Mound-Westonka (Fri, 7pm)
17. St Cloud Cathedral (14-7-1)
Tying Delano kept the conference title a reality for the Crusaders, and they have a shot at only losing one of their games prior to the start of sections.
-This week: Mound-Westonka (Tues, 7:15pm), Waconia (Thurs, 7:15pm), @Duluth Marshall (Sat, 3:30pm)
18. Duluth Marshall (10-12-1)
The Hilltoppers are definitely not a team to count out. They have played many good teams this season and have tournament experience. While they are not a favorite, it would not be a surprise to see them in the 7A final.
-This week: St Cloud Cathedral (Sat, 3:30pm)
19. Spring Lake Park (18-5)
Losing to Totino-Grace by one then losing to Mahtomedi by one is confusing. Hopefully for them they beat Totino the second time around and get the 3rd seed in 4A.
-This week: Totino-Grace (Tues, 7:30pm), @Brainerd (Sat, 4pm)
20. Blake (16-7)
I figured I’d keep them in the top 20 for one more week, but losing to St Paul Johnson really doesn’t help them right now.
-This week: @Providence Academy (Tues, 7pm), Breck (Sat, 2pm)
Bubble Teams:
1A
Faribault (17-6)
While their loss to Lourdes tells me they aren’t a threat to win state or as far as state rankings go, they are a top 4 team in a section, so they deserve to be mentioned. The Falcons are 9-2 in their last 11 games, but both losses are to section opponents. They’ll have to beat multiple teams they’ve already lost to to hold onto a chance at making it to state.
-This week: Rochester Mayo (Thurs, 7:30pm), @St Peter (Sat, 7pm)
Red Wing (11-11)
While I have to admit they have gone unnoticed by me all season, and I’m not ranking them due to their loss to recently above .500 Albert Lea, the Wingers have a shot at wide open 1A.
-This week: @Mankato East (Mon, 5:30pm), Rochester Mayo (Tues, 7:30pm), Austin (Thurs, 7:30pm)
3A
Redwood Valley (17-3-1)
A couple slips this week for the Cardinals, but they are probably still a top 4 seed in the section. It would be great to see them make it to the X.
-This week: St Peter (Thurs, 7:15pm), Minneapolis West (Sat, 3pm)
Litchfield (12-8)
Probably not a top team in state, but a top 4 team in their section with a realistic shot at getting to the X like they did two years ago.
-This week: New Ulm (Mon, 7pm), @Waconia (Tues, 7pm), @Holy Family Catholic (Thurs, 7pm)
5A
Duluth Denfeld (12-10-2)
While I doubt the Hunters have a good chance of winning this week, they will finish the season above .500 and not be a team to count out of any game in sections.
-This week: Grand Rapids (Tues, 7:30pm)
6A
Detroit Lakes (15-7-2)
The Lakers definitely the favorite to win any games past the quarterfinals, but they are not a team to overlook either. I would guess they’ll end up with a top 4 seed in sections.
-This week: @Bemidji (Tues, 7:30pm)
8A
East Grand Forks (11-13)
Nothing new here; the Green Wave definitely are hard to rank as they have beaten the Warriors but have lost to Crookston. They will probably get the #3 seed and have to upset TRF to have a shot at the Warriors again.
-This week: Thief River Falls (Tues, 7:30pm)
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Re: Class A Rankings 2-14-10
1) Breck
2) STA
3) Warroad
4) Hermantown
5) Mahtomedi
6) Alexandria
7) Thief River Falls
International Falls
9) St. Cloud Cathedral
10) Rochester Lourdes
11) Delano
12) Sartell/St. Stephen
13) Virginia
14) Spring Lake Park
15) New Prague
16) Totino Grace
17) South St. Paul
18) Hibbing
19) Faribault
20) Blake
2) STA
3) Warroad
4) Hermantown
5) Mahtomedi
6) Alexandria
7) Thief River Falls

9) St. Cloud Cathedral
10) Rochester Lourdes
11) Delano
12) Sartell/St. Stephen
13) Virginia
14) Spring Lake Park
15) New Prague
16) Totino Grace
17) South St. Paul
18) Hibbing
19) Faribault
20) Blake
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Re: Class A Rankings 2-14-10
[quote="fivehole628"]1) Breck
2) STA
3) Warroad
4) Hermantown
5) Mahtomedi
6) Alexandria
7) Thief River Falls
International Falls
9) St. Cloud Cathedral
10) Rochester Lourdes
11) Delano
12) Sartell/St. Stephen
13) Virginia
14) Spring Lake Park
15) New Prague
16) Totino Grace
17) South St. Paul
18) Hibbing
19) Faribault
20) Blake[/quote
There is no way St. Cloud Cathedral is a top ten team.
And there is no way Rochester Lourdes is above teams like Sartell, Virginia, Hibbing Etc.
2) STA
3) Warroad
4) Hermantown
5) Mahtomedi
6) Alexandria
7) Thief River Falls

9) St. Cloud Cathedral
10) Rochester Lourdes
11) Delano
12) Sartell/St. Stephen
13) Virginia
14) Spring Lake Park
15) New Prague
16) Totino Grace
17) South St. Paul
18) Hibbing
19) Faribault
20) Blake[/quote
There is no way St. Cloud Cathedral is a top ten team.
And there is no way Rochester Lourdes is above teams like Sartell, Virginia, Hibbing Etc.
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Re: Class A Rankings 2-14-10
mnhockeynemn wrote:You are correct in saying Cathedral is not a top 10 team, but I have to disagree with your Lourdes statement. They are 8-3-1 in their last 12 with two of those losses being a 2-1 loss to #1 Breck and a 5-3 loss to #2 STA, both of which were on the road. I would definatly put them above the teams you mentioned.fivehole628 wrote:1) Breck
2) STA
3) Warroad
4) Hermantown
5) Mahtomedi
6) Alexandria
7) Thief River Falls
International Falls
9) St. Cloud Cathedral
10) Rochester Lourdes
11) Delano
12) Sartell/St. Stephen
13) Virginia
14) Spring Lake Park
15) New Prague
16) Totino Grace
17) South St. Paul
18) Hibbing
19) Faribault
20) Blake[/quote
There is no way St. Cloud Cathedral is a top ten team.
And there is no way Rochester Lourdes is above teams like Sartell, Virginia, Hibbing Etc.
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Re: Class A Rankings 2-14-10
mnhockeynemn wrote:Cathdral beat both Sartell and Lourdes, and have only lost once in conference play to Delano; but have losses to Rogers, blown out by Breck and Hermantown. If anything i'd only move them back 2 or 3 spots.fivehole628 wrote:1) Breck
2) STA
3) Warroad
4) Hermantown
5) Mahtomedi
6) Alexandria
7) Thief River Falls
International Falls
9) St. Cloud Cathedral
10) Rochester Lourdes
11) Delano
12) Sartell/St. Stephen
13) Virginia
14) Spring Lake Park
15) New Prague
16) Totino Grace
17) South St. Paul
18) Hibbing
19) Faribault
20) Blake[/quote
There is no way St. Cloud Cathedral is a top ten team.
And there is no way Rochester Lourdes is above teams like Sartell, Virginia, Hibbing Etc.
And I've been to every Sartell home game but one. Look at their competition and you tell me they deserve to be higher than what i have them. They have one good win this season and that was against Virginia. Their 6 losses this year have been to Orono, Champlin Park, Sauk Rapids, Alex, Cathedral and Brainerd. Their good, but i wouldnt have them any higher than what they are.
Looking at Lourdes, they started off the season terribly, but have turned it on lately beating Denfeld, New Prague, Delano and Mound; losing only by one to Breck and two to STA. I'd keep them where I have them.
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Re: Class A Rankings 2-14-10
Which of those losses is bad? Maybe Orono or Champlin, but none of those teams are teams I would overlook on any given night.fivehole628 wrote: And I've been to every Sartell home game but one. Look at their competition and you tell me they deserve to be higher than what i have them. They have one good win this season and that was against Virginia. Their 6 losses this year have been to Orono, Champlin Park, Sauk Rapids, Alex, Cathedral and Brainerd. Their good, but i wouldnt have them any higher than what they are.
Re: Class A Rankings 2-14-10
Well on that then Rogers should be in the top 20 since they beat cathedral and tied Sartell and beat Orono twice the last time was this thursday in which Rogers was down 5 of their top players and held them to only 15 shots. More impressive is that Rogers killed off 5 pks in the first and only gave up 6 shots for the period.HShockeywatcher wrote:Which of those losses is bad? Maybe Orono or Champlin, but none of those teams are teams I would overlook on any given night.fivehole628 wrote: And I've been to every Sartell home game but one. Look at their competition and you tell me they deserve to be higher than what i have them. They have one good win this season and that was against Virginia. Their 6 losses this year have been to Orono, Champlin Park, Sauk Rapids, Alex, Cathedral and Brainerd. Their good, but i wouldnt have them any higher than what they are.

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Re: Class A Rankings 2-14-10
I never said any of them were bad, just stating their losses on the year.HShockeywatcher wrote:Which of those losses is bad? Maybe Orono or Champlin, but none of those teams are teams I would overlook on any given night.fivehole628 wrote: And I've been to every Sartell home game but one. Look at their competition and you tell me they deserve to be higher than what i have them. They have one good win this season and that was against Virginia. Their 6 losses this year have been to Orono, Champlin Park, Sauk Rapids, Alex, Cathedral and Brainerd. Their good, but i wouldnt have them any higher than what they are.
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1. St. Thomas Academy
2. Breck
3. Hermantown
4. Warroad
5. Mahtomedi
6. Virginia
7. Thief River Falls
8. Alexandria
9. St. Cloud Cathedral
10. Sartell
11. Rochester Lourdes
12. International Falls
13. Hibbing
14. Duluth Denfeld
15. Faribault
16. New Prague
17. Delano
18. Mound-Westonka
19. Duluth Marshall
20. Blake
2. Breck
3. Hermantown
4. Warroad
5. Mahtomedi
6. Virginia
7. Thief River Falls
8. Alexandria
9. St. Cloud Cathedral
10. Sartell
11. Rochester Lourdes
12. International Falls
13. Hibbing
14. Duluth Denfeld
15. Faribault
16. New Prague
17. Delano
18. Mound-Westonka
19. Duluth Marshall
20. Blake
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2. Breck (20-2)
In the Mustang’s 15 games this year, 3 have given them a game. Of those 3, they won 2 and lost 1. The wins were by a total of 3 goals. Personally, I feel they will get exposed at state and if Hermantown or Warroad hadn’t had a couple bumps, they’d probably replace Breck here.
-This week: St Paul Saints (Tues, 7:30pm), Totino-Grace (Thurs, 7:30pm), @Blake (Sat, 2pm)
3. Mahtomedi (18-5)
While they will probably end the season with 6 losses, the Zephyrs have only lost to 3 teams all season. They have beaten some good teams in both classes and their losses were tight. Their 4 losses this year were by a total of 8 goals. They beat Virginia this year and Burnsville last year.
4. Warroad (17-4)
The Warriors are playing good hockey as of late. Hermantown’s recent slips along with their Denfeld/Marshall score comparisons bring Warroad up.
5. Hermantown (20-3)
Overtime games with Cloquet and Denfeld? I’m not sure what that does to the 5A seedings, being that it’s so close to the end of the season.
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Okay... stick with me here: fyi-Hermantown hasn't lost to a Class A school all season.
OT win @ Denfeld? secures #1 in 5A for Hermantown (Denfeld goalie with 50 stops);
A bump @ Cloquet whose goalie made ~48-52 saves (well documented Cloquet has been playing good hockey as of late-the following Tues. D. East got out of town with a goal win). I see a 2-1 loss @ Andover and another 4-3 loss against Eden Prairie. Just to compare a few A games on Warroads schedule I see losses against E.Grand Forks, TRF and Grand Rapids- All teams Hermantown beat on the road-the A teams TRF 7-0 and EGF 9-3. Sure, I see single goal OT wins @ D. Marshall & Denfeld-conference rivalries but they were W's for Herm. not the single goal losses I see on Warroads schedule.
All 3 Hermantown losses were by a goal each-all to AA teams.
In 2 of Hermantowns 3 losses the opposing goalie had around 50 saves.
Maybe the recent "bump" you could be talking about is Hermantown missing their top D since the 1st period in the Bemidji game? I'd contribute it to running into hot goaltenders/bad luck with bounces which happens to all teams at times in a season. I don't see a one goal loss to an AA school as big as a 4 goal loss to an AA school with losses to A schools which the two teams you just moved in front of Hermantown have. But that's my opinion and that's why we have playoffs and a tourney otherwise this would be called NCAA Football.
In the Mustang’s 15 games this year, 3 have given them a game. Of those 3, they won 2 and lost 1. The wins were by a total of 3 goals. Personally, I feel they will get exposed at state and if Hermantown or Warroad hadn’t had a couple bumps, they’d probably replace Breck here.
-This week: St Paul Saints (Tues, 7:30pm), Totino-Grace (Thurs, 7:30pm), @Blake (Sat, 2pm)
3. Mahtomedi (18-5)
While they will probably end the season with 6 losses, the Zephyrs have only lost to 3 teams all season. They have beaten some good teams in both classes and their losses were tight. Their 4 losses this year were by a total of 8 goals. They beat Virginia this year and Burnsville last year.
4. Warroad (17-4)
The Warriors are playing good hockey as of late. Hermantown’s recent slips along with their Denfeld/Marshall score comparisons bring Warroad up.
5. Hermantown (20-3)
Overtime games with Cloquet and Denfeld? I’m not sure what that does to the 5A seedings, being that it’s so close to the end of the season.
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Okay... stick with me here: fyi-Hermantown hasn't lost to a Class A school all season.
OT win @ Denfeld? secures #1 in 5A for Hermantown (Denfeld goalie with 50 stops);
A bump @ Cloquet whose goalie made ~48-52 saves (well documented Cloquet has been playing good hockey as of late-the following Tues. D. East got out of town with a goal win). I see a 2-1 loss @ Andover and another 4-3 loss against Eden Prairie. Just to compare a few A games on Warroads schedule I see losses against E.Grand Forks, TRF and Grand Rapids- All teams Hermantown beat on the road-the A teams TRF 7-0 and EGF 9-3. Sure, I see single goal OT wins @ D. Marshall & Denfeld-conference rivalries but they were W's for Herm. not the single goal losses I see on Warroads schedule.
All 3 Hermantown losses were by a goal each-all to AA teams.
In 2 of Hermantowns 3 losses the opposing goalie had around 50 saves.
Maybe the recent "bump" you could be talking about is Hermantown missing their top D since the 1st period in the Bemidji game? I'd contribute it to running into hot goaltenders/bad luck with bounces which happens to all teams at times in a season. I don't see a one goal loss to an AA school as big as a 4 goal loss to an AA school with losses to A schools which the two teams you just moved in front of Hermantown have. But that's my opinion and that's why we have playoffs and a tourney otherwise this would be called NCAA Football.
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Agreed. I've seen both teams and Hermantown is much better. They're much, much deeper and have better goaltending.cooperalls4ever wrote:2. Breck (20-2)
In the Mustang’s 15 games this year, 3 have given them a game. Of those 3, they won 2 and lost 1. The wins were by a total of 3 goals. Personally, I feel they will get exposed at state and if Hermantown or Warroad hadn’t had a couple bumps, they’d probably replace Breck here.
-This week: St Paul Saints (Tues, 7:30pm), Totino-Grace (Thurs, 7:30pm), @Blake (Sat, 2pm)
3. Mahtomedi (18-5)
While they will probably end the season with 6 losses, the Zephyrs have only lost to 3 teams all season. They have beaten some good teams in both classes and their losses were tight. Their 4 losses this year were by a total of 8 goals. They beat Virginia this year and Burnsville last year.
4. Warroad (17-4)
The Warriors are playing good hockey as of late. Hermantown’s recent slips along with their Denfeld/Marshall score comparisons bring Warroad up.
5. Hermantown (20-3)
Overtime games with Cloquet and Denfeld? I’m not sure what that does to the 5A seedings, being that it’s so close to the end of the season.
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Okay... stick with me here: fyi-Hermantown hasn't lost to a Class A school all season.
OT win @ Denfeld? secures #1 in 5A for Hermantown (Denfeld goalie with 50 stops);
A bump @ Cloquet whose goalie made ~48-52 saves (well documented Cloquet has been playing good hockey as of late-the following Tues. D. East got out of town with a goal win). I see a 2-1 loss @ Andover and another 4-3 loss against Eden Prairie. Just to compare a few A games on Warroads schedule I see losses against E.Grand Forks, TRF and Grand Rapids- All teams Hermantown beat on the road-the A teams TRF 7-0 and EGF 9-3. Sure, I see single goal OT wins @ D. Marshall & Denfeld-conference rivalries but they were W's for Herm. not the single goal losses I see on Warroads schedule.
All 3 Hermantown losses were by a goal each-all to AA teams.
In 2 of Hermantowns 3 losses the opposing goalie had around 50 saves.
Maybe the recent "bump" you could be talking about is Hermantown missing their top D since the 1st period in the Bemidji game? I'd contribute it to running into hot goaltenders/bad luck with bounces which happens to all teams at times in a season. I don't see a one goal loss to an AA school as big as a 4 goal loss to an AA school with losses to A schools which the two teams you just moved in front of Hermantown have. But that's my opinion and that's why we have playoffs and a tourney otherwise this would be called NCAA Football.
5A Section Seedings are the first one out.
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/showxmlbrack ... acket=5369
#1 Hermantown
#2 Duluth Denfeld
#3 Cathedral
#4 Rogers
#5 Sauk Rapids
#6 Proctor
#7 STMA
#8 NorthBranch
#9 Moose Lake
#10 Mora
#11 Pine City
#12 Meadow Creek
http://www.mshsl.org/mshsl/showxmlbrack ... acket=5369
#1 Hermantown
#2 Duluth Denfeld
#3 Cathedral
#4 Rogers
#5 Sauk Rapids
#6 Proctor
#7 STMA
#8 NorthBranch
#9 Moose Lake
#10 Mora
#11 Pine City
#12 Meadow Creek
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I have not seen either team play; I simply have scores to go off.MNHockey75 wrote:Agreed. I've seen both teams and Hermantown is much better. They're much, much deeper and have better goaltending.cooperalls4ever wrote:2. Breck (20-2)
In the Mustang’s 15 games this year, 3 have given them a game. Of those 3, they won 2 and lost 1. The wins were by a total of 3 goals. Personally, I feel they will get exposed at state and if Hermantown or Warroad hadn’t had a couple bumps, they’d probably replace Breck here.
-This week: St Paul Saints (Tues, 7:30pm), Totino-Grace (Thurs, 7:30pm), @Blake (Sat, 2pm)
3. Mahtomedi (18-5)
While they will probably end the season with 6 losses, the Zephyrs have only lost to 3 teams all season. They have beaten some good teams in both classes and their losses were tight. Their 4 losses this year were by a total of 8 goals. They beat Virginia this year and Burnsville last year.
4. Warroad (17-4)
The Warriors are playing good hockey as of late. Hermantown’s recent slips along with their Denfeld/Marshall score comparisons bring Warroad up.
5. Hermantown (20-3)
Overtime games with Cloquet and Denfeld? I’m not sure what that does to the 5A seedings, being that it’s so close to the end of the season.
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Okay... stick with me here: fyi-Hermantown hasn't lost to a Class A school all season.
OT win @ Denfeld? secures #1 in 5A for Hermantown (Denfeld goalie with 50 stops);
A bump @ Cloquet whose goalie made ~48-52 saves (well documented Cloquet has been playing good hockey as of late-the following Tues. D. East got out of town with a goal win). I see a 2-1 loss @ Andover and another 4-3 loss against Eden Prairie. Just to compare a few A games on Warroads schedule I see losses against E.Grand Forks, TRF and Grand Rapids- All teams Hermantown beat on the road-the A teams TRF 7-0 and EGF 9-3. Sure, I see single goal OT wins @ D. Marshall & Denfeld-conference rivalries but they were W's for Herm. not the single goal losses I see on Warroads schedule.
All 3 Hermantown losses were by a goal each-all to AA teams.
In 2 of Hermantowns 3 losses the opposing goalie had around 50 saves.
Maybe the recent "bump" you could be talking about is Hermantown missing their top D since the 1st period in the Bemidji game? I'd contribute it to running into hot goaltenders/bad luck with bounces which happens to all teams at times in a season. I don't see a one goal loss to an AA school as big as a 4 goal loss to an AA school with losses to A schools which the two teams you just moved in front of Hermantown have. But that's my opinion and that's why we have playoffs and a tourney otherwise this would be called NCAA Football.
It isn't so much that it took OT for them to beat the team, but that Warroad recently beat them 5-1. Also, there's H'town OT 5-4 win over Marshall who Warroad recently beat 6-2 on the same ice.
After the top two, I would say the next three are probably very closing grouped and it is unfortunate all we have in common opponents to rank them. Hermantown will probably get the #3 seed if they make it to state.
Hermantown consistently has one of the best schedules of class A games in the state, in my opinion.
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Alex is on a ten game win streak. They haven't proven a lot, but they did beat Cathedral, Bemidji, Sartell and Sauk-Rapids (although they played their senior goalie that game) in that span. Them being high is probably more a case of other teams falling as of late than them beating teams to get up there.defense wrote:In all honesty here, Hermantown and Warroad do appear to be pretty close. Close in schedules, close in records.....if you only have that to go by, I would call this one good.
I am kinda wondering if Alexandria is really that close though. And if Sauk Rapids is really that high.
Sauk-Rapids is 10-3 in their last 13 games, the two losses with their better goalie by 1 goal each. No, I'm not from there or have any relation to anyone there, this is just a classic case of an underdog story, and a senior getting playing time because he's a senior. Seeing how good their younger goalie seems to be and the role they've been on, they seem to be the best candidate to upset Hermantown. Hopefully they win out and roll past Rogers to play Hermantown on neutral ice. We'll see; good luck.
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I watched Sauk Rapids play at Sartell and, in my opinion, the only reason they won was because Sartell's goalie had an awful game. They did not look like a top 20 team to me.. but that's just one gameHShockeywatcher wrote:Alex is on a ten game win streak. They haven't proven a lot, but they did beat Cathedral, Bemidji, Sartell and Sauk-Rapids (although they played their senior goalie that game) in that span. Them being high is probably more a case of other teams falling as of late than them beating teams to get up there.defense wrote:In all honesty here, Hermantown and Warroad do appear to be pretty close. Close in schedules, close in records.....if you only have that to go by, I would call this one good.
I am kinda wondering if Alexandria is really that close though. And if Sauk Rapids is really that high.
Sauk-Rapids is 10-3 in their last 13 games, the two losses with their better goalie by 1 goal each. No, I'm not from there or have any relation to anyone there, this is just a classic case of an underdog story, and a senior getting playing time because he's a senior. Seeing how good their younger goalie seems to be and the role they've been on, they seem to be the best candidate to upset Hermantown. Hopefully they win out and roll past Rogers to play Hermantown on neutral ice. We'll see; good luck.
Re: Class A Rankings 2-14-10
Rogers also got demolished by Faribault. The score was only 5-2 but Faribault was in control the whole time and had a little bit of trouble burying. If Rogers is considered a force then Faribault should get moved up higherroyals03 wrote:Well on that then Rogers should be in the top 20 since they beat cathedral and tied Sartell and beat Orono twice the last time was this thursday in which Rogers was down 5 of their top players and held them to only 15 shots. More impressive is that Rogers killed off 5 pks in the first and only gave up 6 shots for the period.HShockeywatcher wrote:Which of those losses is bad? Maybe Orono or Champlin, but none of those teams are teams I would overlook on any given night.fivehole628 wrote: And I've been to every Sartell home game but one. Look at their competition and you tell me they deserve to be higher than what i have them. They have one good win this season and that was against Virginia. Their 6 losses this year have been to Orono, Champlin Park, Sauk Rapids, Alex, Cathedral and Brainerd. Their good, but i wouldnt have them any higher than what they are.
Re: Class A Rankings 2-14-10
Rogers also got demolished by Faribault. The score was only 5-2 but Faribault was in control the whole time and had a little bit of trouble burying. If Rogers is considered a force then Faribault should get moved up higher[/quote]
Well if you think winning 5-2 and out shooting your opposition by six shots is demolishment you have not watched much hockey. Plus not to make any excuses but Rogers was missing between 3-5 players off of their top two lines. Now I was not at the game, but I was told that Rogers would lose by a lot an that just did not happen, oh and it isn't because Rogers Has stellar goaltending.
Well if you think winning 5-2 and out shooting your opposition by six shots is demolishment you have not watched much hockey. Plus not to make any excuses but Rogers was missing between 3-5 players off of their top two lines. Now I was not at the game, but I was told that Rogers would lose by a lot an that just did not happen, oh and it isn't because Rogers Has stellar goaltending.
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Re: Class A Rankings 2-14-10
Also Faribault demolished New Prague.dpsaucer5 wrote:Rogers also got demolished by Faribault. The score was only 5-2 but Faribault was in control the whole time and had a little bit of trouble burying. If Rogers is considered a force then Faribault should get moved up higherroyals03 wrote:Well on that then Rogers should be in the top 20 since they beat cathedral and tied Sartell and beat Orono twice the last time was this thursday in which Rogers was down 5 of their top players and held them to only 15 shots. More impressive is that Rogers killed off 5 pks in the first and only gave up 6 shots for the period.HShockeywatcher wrote: Which of those losses is bad? Maybe Orono or Champlin, but none of those teams are teams I would overlook on any given night.