8AA

[sn1per]

This is Brainerd's year to end the Roseau/Moorhead 8AA dominance...

Quarters Winners
Moorhead
Roseau
Brainerd
Bemidji

Semi's
Bemidji over Moorhead(Spuds get caught looking ahead)
Brainerd over Roseau(Brainerd PROVES they should be the 2 seed)

Finals
Brainerd over Bemidji

Ok... That was my dream scenario...

Actual thoughts...
Moorhead over Bemidji (4-1)

Brainerd over Roseau (5-4)

Moorhead over Brainerd (4-3, OT)

[Syd Barrett]

Bemidji gave the nod to Roseau after playing both.

It looks like Elliott influenced Bemidji's vote

Allz I know is Archie ain't to happy about it

You Roso boyz better tell Da Legion to stock up the coolers

[Green and White Fan]

Is there any possibility that after Bemidji played both teams and lost by 1 goal in Brainerd and then played at home and lost by 1 goal to the visiting Rams, that they felt Roseau was actually a better team or must there be some conspiracy? Is it possible that Moorhead really doesn't want to play Roseau in a final and would rather actually play Brainerd, so they ranked Brainerd higher, hoping they would get a home game and hopefully have a better chance of beating the Rams. After beating Brainerd twice and losing once to the Rams, I think there is a possiblity that the conspiracy lies with the spuds!

[Indian Head]

The word is it was Buffalo, BRmij and the bottom ranked teams. If it smells like a skunk....

[mulefarm]

If teams are close, then head to head should be the determining factor. Especially late season games. That is why teams try to schedule games with other section teams if not in the same conference. Whether you think a team is better or not, should not be a factor if they play each other. Shame on those coaches for turning a simple black and white situation into a political circus.

[elliott70]

Bemidji gave the nod to Roseau after playing both.

It looks like Elliott influenced Bemidji's vote

Allz I know is Archie ain't to happy about it

You Roso boyz better tell Da Legion to stock up the coolers

If I had any influence, Brainerd would have been the 4 seed -
they suck.

[elliott70]

Bemidji gave the nod to Roseau after playing both.

It looks like Elliott influenced Bemidji's vote

Allz I know is Archie ain't to happy about it

You Roso boyz better tell Da Legion to stock up the coolers

Syd, I feel sorry for you Warless fans, a long drive just to see your boys get their butts whipped.
The Warroad refs already told me who will win this game.

[elliott70]

Bemidji gave the nod to Roseau after playing both.

It looks like Elliott influenced Bemidji's vote

Allz I know is Archie ain't to happy about it

You Roso boyz better tell Da Legion to stock up the coolers

Archie better keep cool, his fighting days are long past.

[Syd Barrett]

Archie better keep cool, his fighting days are long past.

Ya but, he can still whoop a couple of old codgers like us

The Warroad refs already told me who will win this game.

If the refs are from Warroad, I'd think that would improve Da Worriorz chances

If I had any influence, Brainerd would have been the 4 seed.

I guess that goes to show how impotent you really are

[elliott70]

Archie better keep cool, his fighting days are long past.

Ya but, he can still whoop a couple of old codgers like us

But just about anyone with something in their drawers can do that.

The Warroad refs already told me who will win this game.

If the refs are from Warroad, I'd think that would improve Da Worriorz chances

If I had any influence, Brainerd would have been the 4 seed.

I guess that goes to show how impotent you really are

Unfortunately, that is right.

[Green and White Fan]

So coaches should not seed based on who they feel was the better team that they played? I can see if you have never seen either team, that you would look more at records or like opponents. Seedings are not perfect and Roseau and other schools who have been near the top most years have been left scratching their heads at times too. New ground for Brainerd, but seedings are the same as they have always been.

[curtiscurve]

I assume since these teams are so spread out, they do not meet to discuss. I think they should make this a priority so each team can talk their team up a little bit and hear from the horses mouth where everyone feels they should be seeded. Plus, Bush-league seeding is less likely to take place when it is face to face. The system is broke and it needs to be fixed to prevent future blunders like this.

[karl(east)]

So coaches should not seed based on who they feel was the better team that they played? I can see if you have never seen either team, that you would look more at records or like opponents. Seedings are not perfect and Roseau and other schools who have been near the top most years have been left scratching their heads at times too. New ground for Brainerd, but seedings are the same as they have always been.

No, they should not be based on who coaches 'think' is better. They should be based on what has happened, plain and simple.

There are very practical reasons for this, of which this thread is the most obvious example. Picking based on who you 'think' is better leads to angry arguments, accusations of politics, and bitter feelings come next year's seeding meeting. Picking based on what happened is pretty hard to argue. There's a perfectly sound logic behind the statement, "Brainerd beat Roseau so Brainerd should be higher." Saying "I think Roseau is a better team" is not so clear-cut; it's an opinion, not a fact. I happen to agree with that opinion, but I still think Brainerd deserved the 2 seed.

[Green and White Fan]

Brainerd won head to head in 1 game, by a goal, played in their building. You are saying the whole season should be based on that game and coaches should not vote by who they feel is the better team??? Head to head Brainerd won in their building, but there was a whole lot of other games played also. I don't think the way seedings are done should be changed because Brainerd, in one of the first seasons that they have had to worry about seedings, feels they got screwed. Is it perfect, maybe not. Is Brainerd the first team to think they got screwed, hardly.

[sportsdad]

Not to mention, Roseau out shot Brainerd 38 - 23. "In there own house" Tuff to make the case that Brainerd is for sure the better team.

[karl(east)]

Brainerd won head to head in 1 game, by a goal, played in their building. You are saying the whole season should be based on that game and coaches should not vote by who they feel is the better team??? Head to head Brainerd won in their building, but there was a whole lot of other games played also. I don't think the way seedings are done should be changed because Brainerd, in one of the first seasons that they have had to worry about seedings, feels they got screwed. Is it perfect, maybe not. Is Brainerd the first team to think they got screwed, hardly.

No, I've always insisted this is the way things should be seeded. It seems to work quite well in other sections. It is possible to make things better instead of shrugging and saying "people get screwed."

Of course more factors should go into it. But the other factors--common opponents, overall record, SOS, relative improvement over the course of the season in scores against opponents played twice--do not really make a convincing case that Roseau should be higher.

I am an East fan. East lost by 1 goal to Elk River in their building this year (while outshooting them by a large margin), played a comparable schedule, and has 1 less loss. Never for a second have I thought East deserved the #1 seed. They got what they deserved.

[Syd Barrett]

Brainerd won head to head in 1 game, by a goal, played in their building. You are saying the whole season should be based on that game and coaches should not vote by who they feel is the better team??? Head to head Brainerd won in their building, but there was a whole lot of other games played also.

You'd think by beating Roseau and having a 20 & 3 record on top of that should get most teams the 2nd seed No wonder Da Barnyard faithful feel like they took it in the shorts

[Syd Barrett]

Not to mention, Roseau out shot Brainerd 38 - 23. "In there own house" Tuff to make the case that Brainerd is for sure the better team.

Hey dad, I take it you weren't at the game

After the 1st period Da Worriorz out played Da Lambs and dominated them when they weren't in the box. Da boyz from Roseau were pretty tentative 'cause they knew that they were gonna get HIT as soon as they touched the puck

The best team won that game down in Brainerd and they will take it to Da Lambs behind Da Legion Club too

The only chance they have is the guys in the striped shirts

[Junior Samples]

I don't give a flippin' flock of flies -- Brainerd should have been seeded higher than Roseau because they earned the right to host the semi-final by virtue of beating the Rams in head-to-head competition. Had these seeds been administered properly (like the NHL, NFL, et al) - Brainerd would have been the #2 seed without question.

Bemidji still has a stick up their past - they still have a hard time dealing with the fact that Paul Bunyan belongs in Brainerd, not Bemidji.

Monticello cut their own throats by their vote.

The system is flawed and the bottom feeders of 8AA have shown their true colors with the exception of River Lakes.

Ignorance is bliss amongst those voting Roseau higher than Brainerd. There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out or not doing your homework.

Pride attaches undue importance to the superiority of one's status in the eyes of others; And shame is fear of humiliation at one's inferior status in the estimation of others. When one sets his heart on being highly esteemed, and achieves such rating, then he is automatically involved in fear of losing his status.

Anyone wish to knock me off my soap box?

The Shady Bunch is coming to Roseau. Better stock up on the beer (Legion) and the napkins (Guest House). Napkins and beer go together when you're crying in your beer.

[elliott70]

I don't give a flippin' flock of flies -- Brainerd should have been seeded higher than Roseau because they earned the right to host the semi-final by virtue of beating the Rams in head-to-head competition. Had these seeds been administered properly (like the NHL, NFL, et al) - Brainerd would have been the #2 seed without question.

Bemidji still has a stick up their past - they still have a hard time dealing with the fact that Paul Bunyan belongs in Brainerd, not Bemidji.

Monticello cut their own throats by their vote.

The system is flawed and the bottom feeders of 8AA have shown their true colors with the exception of River Lakes.

Ignorance is bliss amongst those voting Roseau higher than Brainerd. There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out or not doing your homework.

Pride attaches undue importance to the superiority of one's status in the eyes of others; And shame is fear of humiliation at one's inferior status in the estimation of others. When one sets his heart on being highly esteemed, and achieves such rating, then he is automatically involved in fear of losing his status.

Anyone wish to knock me off my soap box?

The Shady Bunch is coming to Roseau. Better stock up on the beer (Legion) and the napkins (Guest House). Napkins and beer go together when you're crying in your beer.

Soap box????

Sounds like you're on the frickin podium in Congress!!!

[northwoods oldtimer]

I second congressmen Samples remarks and would as well like to see better criteria for ranking the teams come sections. Brainerd deserved the #2 plain and simple.

[blueline1]

I don't give a flippin' flock of flies -- Brainerd should have been seeded higher than Roseau because they earned the right to host the semi-final by virtue of beating the Rams in head-to-head competition. Had these seeds been administered properly (like the NHL, NFL, et al) - Brainerd would have been the #2 seed without question.

Bemidji still has a stick up their past - they still have a hard time dealing with the fact that Paul Bunyan belongs in Brainerd, not Bemidji.

Monticello cut their own throats by their vote.

The system is flawed and the bottom feeders of 8AA have shown their true colors with the exception of River Lakes.

Ignorance is bliss amongst those voting Roseau higher than Brainerd. There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out or not doing your homework.

Pride attaches undue importance to the superiority of one's status in the eyes of others; And shame is fear of humiliation at one's inferior status in the estimation of others. When one sets his heart on being highly esteemed, and achieves such rating, then he is automatically involved in fear of losing his status.

Anyone wish to knock me off my soap box?

The Shady Bunch is coming to Roseau. Better stock up on the beer (Legion) and the napkins (Guest House). Napkins and beer go together when you're crying in your beer.

Wow, Junior, that was profound! I have a whole new level of respect for the Shady bunch.

[Syd Barrett]

The Shady Bunch is coming to Roseau. Better stock up on the beer (Legion) and the napkins (Guest House). Napkins and beer go together when you're crying in your beer.

Ya hit one outta da park Junior

Where were you, Videogout & Bluesbuddy tuesday night Me, Zer0 and Ohfor32 went to Shady Bunch Headquarters (Shep's) after the game and it was pretty quiet

Are we gonna take your Gremlin up to Roseau or my Reliant-K

We'll have to take at least 2 rides but I ain't riden' in the same car with Bluesbuddy, he'll gas us out before we get to Walker

I heard from a good source that Archie's really p1$$ed at Buffalo for rating Da Worriorz #3 and he's gonna turn Da Dawgz loose on 'em Hopefully everyone willz be able suit up against Da Lambs

[ubugme]

I don't give a flippin' flock of flies -- Brainerd should have been seeded higher than Roseau because they earned the right to host the semi-final by virtue of beating the Rams in head-to-head competition. Had these seeds been administered properly (like the NHL, NFL, et al) - Brainerd would have been the #2 seed without question.

Bemidji still has a stick up their past - they still have a hard time dealing with the fact that Paul Bunyan belongs in Brainerd, not Bemidji.

Monticello cut their own throats by their vote.

The system is flawed and the bottom feeders of 8AA have shown their true colors with the exception of River Lakes.

Ignorance is bliss amongst those voting Roseau higher than Brainerd. There is no shame in not knowing; the shame lies in not finding out or not doing your homework.

Pride attaches undue importance to the superiority of one's status in the eyes of others; And shame is fear of humiliation at one's inferior status in the estimation of others. When one sets his heart on being highly esteemed, and achieves such rating, then he is automatically involved in fear of losing his status.

Anyone wish to knock me off my soap box?

Man are you bugged. Props...

[zoom]

Quit complaining! If Brainerd is better, and there are views that go both ways...then go to Roseau and prove it....Keep in mind that State will NOT be played at Brainerd...
There was a time, and it may still happen in other sections, but the whole section tournament is played at one site..(NOT NEUTRAL), just predetermined....There have been several times not only in section 8, but others as well the the 2, 3, 4, or 5 seeds have hosted the section tournament! Specifically in(TRF, EGF, WARROAD) Fair,,,um maybe not....Life,,,,um yes....(Again, if Brainerd is really better than Roseau, head North and prove it.)