7A Next Year??? Denfeld Trojans??

Hibbing01 · Post by **Hibbing01** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:30 pm

With what is going on with the Duluth school district, do you think the state will move Denfeld into Central's spot in the section? I would think it makes sense.

Post by **karl(east)** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 3:41 pm

With the combined enrollment, they'll be forced into 7AA. There will just be one less team in 5A and 7A until they realign things again after next season.

mnhockeynemn · Post by **mnhockeynemn** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 4:12 pm

That would be pretty strange to have two double A Duluth Schools, it might finally take out the East/Cloquet Rivalry. I bet some of them would play for Marshall though, or transfer to Hermantown.

Post by **karl(east)** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 5:30 pm

I'm excited to see another Duluth school in AA. It's nice to have another northern team playing with the big boys. Yes, only having two schools will probably make the East/Denfeld rivalry stronger in every sport, but it'll take some time to build up the history and the bad blood that exists between East and Cloquet. Also, Denfeld will need to actually beat East at some point--it's not a rivalry if one team always wins.

I don't think Central's closure will shake up the area teams all that much; the sad truth is that (practically) no one at Central could make East varsity, and only a few can make some of the other local programs. It might pad the depth at Denfeld and Marshall a bit, but not much else.

Northhcky · Post by **Northhcky** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:33 pm

mnhockeynemn wrote:That would be pretty strange to have two double A Duluth Schools, it might finally take out the East/Cloquet Rivalry. I bet some of them would play for Marshall though, or transfer to Hermantown.

No transfers to Hermantown unless they physically move there. No open enrollment.

TheHockeyDJ · Post by **TheHockeyDJ** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:42 pm

Can you imagine how crazy semifinal Saturday would with denfeld, east, rapids, and cloquet? That would be 4 schools that would bring 2,000 fans. Better than the 400 that elk river, brainerd, or anoka ever brought.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:43 pm

karl(east) wrote:With the combined enrollment, they'll be forced into 7AA. There will just be one less team in 5A and 7A until they realign things again after next season.

They wouldn't be in 7AA next year, would they? I would think they'd stay in 5A until the realignment.

Post by **east hockey** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:45 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
karl(east) wrote:With the combined enrollment, they'll be forced into 7AA. There will just be one less team in 5A and 7A until they realign things again after next season.
They wouldn't be in 7AA next year, would they? I would think they'd stay in 5A until the realignment.

No. 7AA.

Lee

TuckerMax93 · Post by **TuckerMax93** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:46 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
karl(east) wrote:With the combined enrollment, they'll be forced into 7AA. There will just be one less team in 5A and 7A until they realign things again after next season.
They wouldn't be in 7AA next year, would they? I would think they'd stay in 5A until the realignment.

If they are above the total enrollment cut off, they'd play AA.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 8:54 pm

TuckerMax93 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote:
karl(east) wrote:With the combined enrollment, they'll be forced into 7AA. There will just be one less team in 5A and 7A until they realign things again after next season.
They wouldn't be in 7AA next year, would they? I would think they'd stay in 5A until the realignment.
If they are above the total enrollment cut off, they'd play AA.

Oh, ha. Realignment is next year, right? Anything's possible then

Post by **karl(east)** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:01 pm

HShockeywatcher wrote:
TuckerMax93 wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: They wouldn't be in 7AA next year, would they? I would think they'd stay in 5A until the realignment.
If they are above the total enrollment cut off, they'd play AA.
Oh, ha. Realignment is next year, right? Anything's possible then

Realignment isn't until after next year. When teams undergo huge changes in student body size due to closures/new schools/co-op changes, they move them up or down regardless.

TuckerMax93 · Post by **TuckerMax93** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:07 pm

karl(east) wrote:
Realignment isn't until after next year. When teams undergo huge changes in student body size due to closures/new schools/co-op changes, they move them up or down regardless.

So, what kind of changes will happen to the school next year? If none happen, why would they make changes? If the schools are still classified as A per their enrollment, why would they move them up?

Post by **karl(east)** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:13 pm

TuckerMax93 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
Realignment isn't until after next year. When teams undergo huge changes in student body size due to closures/new schools/co-op changes, they move them up or down regardless.
So, what kind of changes will happen to the school next year? If none happen, why would they make changes? If the schools are still classified as A per their enrollment, why would they move them up?

Denfeld and Central are combining next year. Central is closing, though all the students will be at the Central building next year as they renovate Denfeld.

East is also moving to a different location after next year and will pick up some students.

Post by **east hockey** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:13 pm

For some reason I thought the realignment was coming up during this off-season until I looked back and saw the really big alignment was before the 2007-08 season, followed by 2009-10, etc.

Still, as you said, there will be a large change in enrollment at Cent/Denf next season. Will it push them to Class AA? With the cutoff at 1,342 students, and the combined enrollments of East, Central and Denfeld at 2,767, it's not a given. It all depends on how evenly (and fairly) the Duluth School Board handles this. And how many students transfer to other schools outside the District. Open enrollment has nothing to do with this part of it. Remember, there are a lot of very irritated parents in the District due to the Red Plan.

In any case, it will be very close.

Lee

Post by **karl(east)** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:19 pm

east hockey wrote:For some reason I thought the realignment was coming up during this off-season until I looked back and saw the really big alignment was before the 2007-08 season, followed by 2009-10, etc.

Still, as you said, there will be a large change in enrollment at Cent/Denf next season. Will it push them to Class AA? With the cutoff at 1,342 students, and the combined enrollments of East, Central and Denfeld at 2,767, it's not a given. It all depends on how evenly (and fairly) the Duluth School Board handles this. And how many students transfer to other schools outside the District. Open enrollment has nothing to do with this part of it. Remember, there are a lot of very irritated parents in the District due to the Red Plan.

In any case, it will be very close.

Lee

I might guess that Central/Denfeld will be AA next year, but once the new East building opens, they'll drop back down. If I understand it correctly, next year they're putting nearly everyone from those two in Central, since there just isn't enough room in the East building for a lot of Central students. After that, who knows? Personally I doubt there would be any mass exodus, especially once the new buildings open up, but it might be enough if it's close...we'll have to wait and see.

Post by **east hockey** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:23 pm

karl(east) wrote:
east hockey wrote:For some reason I thought the realignment was coming up during this off-season until I looked back and saw the really big alignment was before the 2007-08 season, followed by 2009-10, etc.

Still, as you said, there will be a large change in enrollment at Cent/Denf next season. Will it push them to Class AA? With the cutoff at 1,342 students, and the combined enrollments of East, Central and Denfeld at 2,767, it's not a given. It all depends on how evenly (and fairly) the Duluth School Board handles this. And how many students transfer to other schools outside the District. Open enrollment has nothing to do with this part of it. Remember, there are a lot of very irritated parents in the District due to the Red Plan.

In any case, it will be very close.

Lee
I might guess that Central/Denfeld will be AA next year, but once the new East building opens, they'll drop back down. If I understand it correctly, next year they're putting nearly everyone from those two in Central, since there just isn't enough room in the East building for a lot of Central students. After that, who knows? Personally I doubt there would be any mass exodus, especially once the new buildings open up, but it might be enough if it's close...we'll have to wait and see.

I'd certainly like to see them in 7AA. For obvious reasons.

Lee

fkahckyprofessor20 · Post by **fkahckyprofessor20** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:52 pm

east hockey wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
east hockey wrote:For some reason I thought the realignment was coming up during this off-season until I looked back and saw the really big alignment was before the 2007-08 season, followed by 2009-10, etc.

Still, as you said, there will be a large change in enrollment at Cent/Denf next season. Will it push them to Class AA? With the cutoff at 1,342 students, and the combined enrollments of East, Central and Denfeld at 2,767, it's not a given. It all depends on how evenly (and fairly) the Duluth School Board handles this. And how many students transfer to other schools outside the District. Open enrollment has nothing to do with this part of it. Remember, there are a lot of very irritated parents in the District due to the Red Plan.

In any case, it will be very close.

Lee
I might guess that Central/Denfeld will be AA next year, but once the new East building opens, they'll drop back down. If I understand it correctly, next year they're putting nearly everyone from those two in Central, since there just isn't enough room in the East building for a lot of Central students. After that, who knows? Personally I doubt there would be any mass exodus, especially once the new buildings open up, but it might be enough if it's close...we'll have to wait and see.
I'd certainly like to see them in 7AA. For obvious reasons.

Lee

Lee, only if we get to see an all-Duluth final at tDECC

Post by **east hockey** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 9:57 pm

fkahckyprofessor20 wrote:
east hockey wrote:
karl(east) wrote: I might guess that Central/Denfeld will be AA next year, but once the new East building opens, they'll drop back down. If I understand it correctly, next year they're putting nearly everyone from those two in Central, since there just isn't enough room in the East building for a lot of Central students. After that, who knows? Personally I doubt there would be any mass exodus, especially once the new buildings open up, but it might be enough if it's close...we'll have to wait and see.
I'd certainly like to see them in 7AA. For obvious reasons.

Lee
Lee, only if we get to see an all-Duluth final at tDECC

If that's the case, they'll have to move the game to the new tDECC.

Lee

Mnslammers22 · Post by **Mnslammers22** » Thu Feb 18, 2010 10:43 pm

they will be a AA school next year and there just gunna mix up logos and jerseys

Hibbing01 · Post by **Hibbing01** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 1:47 am

Thanks for the anwers, but now I must ask, who will fill Centrals spot in 7A? If they fill it at all. I think Proctor or even Hermantown would be nice editions, or both. 5A is the most geographically screwed up section in the state, and I think travel wise it would be beneficial to Hermantown and Proctor to be in 7A, since both are only an hour from the range.

gophers101 · Post by **gophers101** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 8:23 am

Hibbing01 wrote:Thanks for the anwers, but now I must ask, who will fill Centrals spot in 7A? If they fill it at all. I think Proctor or even Hermantown would be nice editions, or both. 5A is the most geographically screwed up section in the state, and I think travel wise it would be beneficial to Hermantown and Proctor to be in 7A, since both are only an hour from the range.

7a used to have only 9 teams so a new team may or may not enter. I think proctor and hermantown are the only options. And if your going to move one do you have to move both? No teams being added to 7a would not be surprising either.

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:43 am

The league will probably not move anyone into 7A next year. They usually only make minor adjustments that are absolutely necessary in the off year - like moving Denfeld up to AA. East Ridge will probably also move up to AA.

What they do next year is anyone's guess.

Post by **karl(east)** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:28 pm

Just as a bit of follow-up, it's been confirmed that Denfeld/Central next year will keep the 'Denfeld Hunters' name and colors. East also will not see a name/mascot change.

EHSHack · Post by **EHSHack** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 9:42 pm

The way I understand it Karl, is that East and Denfeld will stay once everything is done. Next year whoever it will still be the Denfeld Trojans/ Central Hunters.

Post by **karl(east)** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 11:19 pm

EHSHack wrote:The way I understand it Karl, is that East and Denfeld will stay once everything is done. Next year whoever it will still be the Denfeld Trojans/ Central Hunters.

Okay, that makes sense.

While I wasn't religiously attached to the current name and feel for the Central kids a bit, coming back and rooting for "Duluth Ordean" or something like that probably just wouldn't have felt the same.

DNT article: http://www.duluthnewstribune.com/event/ ... id/161212/