Section 3A

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Who is going to be the top contender for section 3A?

New Ulm
21
25%
Litchfield
9
11%
Hutchinson
20
24%
Marshall
16
19%
Windom
4
5%
Redwood
13
16%
 
Total votes: 83

hockeydude333
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Post by hockeydude333 »

thats because nu goalie is sub-par. i dont think there was a game all year in which he won a game for new ulm. all year you never heard of what a great game by new ulms goalie
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Post by hockeydude333 »

most of new ulms games were won by 3 or more goals and those were against bad teams. he never stepped up and gave new ulm a big game when they needed it.
hoccardger
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Post by hoccardger »

I think that is the way a lot of NU players are though - they are talented, but they have an ATTITUDE. NU goalie should have been better, but he didn't always need to be. If I recall right, I don't think Marshall hardly had any shots on him... not sure about that.
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Post by HockeyFan033 »

hockeydude333 wrote:thats because nu goalie is sub-par. i dont think there was a game all year in which he won a game for new ulm. all year you never heard of what a great game by new ulms goalie
Burgau is not a sub-par Goalie. In this next game he is the better Goalie of the two. Litchfield has let in 15 goals in the two games that they have played versus New Ulm. And Burgau is the sub-par Goalie??

New Ulm 4 Litchfield 3 in OT.
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Post by Chalk_Talk »

new2coachin wrote:
Chalk_Talk wrote:
goalieguy_14 wrote: new ulm probably would've been the number one seed without their 2 losses to marshall
and the only reason new ulm lost to marshall was marshall's goaltending, that make a little more sense?
That doesn't make more sense...They lost to Marshall not the goalie, the goalie is part of the TEAM. He must have been scoring goals and making saves??

Going by your name goalieguy I think you should understand.
Chalk, I'll type s l o w l y to hopefully not lose you on this. Average Offense/Defense on a team with Great Goalie = Team able to compete with more skilled teams, occasionally beating them due to great goalie performance(s) (ie: marshall vs new ulm games). Take the same average Offense/Defense with an average or below average goalie = Team that gets beat by quite a few against top teams, and loses some games to lesser teams (not making a reference here for obvious reasons). Goalieguy understands this, too bad you don't, but hopefully its cleared up.

new2coachin..Not only are you new to coaching but I'm guessing you are new2hockey. Since no one else has explained to you that this is a team sport I will.....TEAM=offense+defense+goalie+coach.......Not sure where AVERAGE fits into hockey.....I'm done discussing this topic. I was just trying make the point that the goalie is part of a team. Maybe I should type S L O W L Y so you can grasp the TEAM concept. Yes goalies are important but a team has NO individuals.
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Post by new2coachin »

I'm not understanding how Marshall's goaltending (hurt NUs ranking tremendously)??[/quote]
new ulm probably would've been the number one seed without their 2 losses to marshall
and the only reason new ulm lost to marshall was marshall's goaltending, that make a little more sense?[/quote]

That doesn't make more sense...They lost to Marshall not the goalie, the goalie is part of the TEAM. He must have been scoring goals and making saves??

Going by your name goalieguy I think you should understand.[/quote]

Chalk, I'll type s l o w l y to hopefully not lose you on this. Average Offense/Defense on a team with Great Goalie = Team able to compete with more skilled teams, occasionally beating them due to great goalie performance(s) (ie: marshall vs new ulm games). Take the same average Offense/Defense with an average or below average goalie = Team that gets beat by quite a few against top teams, and loses some games to lesser teams (not making a reference here for obvious reasons). Goalieguy understands this, too bad you don't, but hopefully its cleared up.[/quote]


new2coachin..Not only are you new to coaching but I'm guessing you are new2hockey. Since no one else has explained to you that this is a team sport I will.....TEAM=offense+defense+goalie+coach.......Not sure where AVERAGE fits into hockey.....I'm done discussing this topic. I was just trying make the point that the goalie is part of a team. Maybe I should type S L O W L Y so you can grasp the TEAM concept. Yes goalies are important but a team has NO individuals.[/quote]


Chalk, you are very naive if you really believe my screen name actually indicates how long I have been coaching, but keep guessing, it makes reading your posts more interesting. As for the rest of your previous post, I'm not going to waste my time, you're just not going to get it.
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Post by hockey333 »

Anyone have any predictions for tomorrow nights game?

I think New Ulm will pull through this time with a 5-3 win over LDC.
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Post by hockeydude333 »

I dont think that anybody here is going to say that nu goalie is above par. i dont think throughout the season that there was one game that he grabbed the bull by the horns and lead nu to a win in a game that they maybe should not have won. if you are trying to say he is above par you i would like to know what you have been watching this year. nu goalie has shown to be no better than sub par!!! Litch may have given up 15 against nu but nu 8 in the two games as well. that is not a impressive number
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Post by HockeyFan033 »

hockeydude333 wrote:I dont think that anybody here is going to say that nu goalie is above par. i dont think throughout the season that there was one game that he grabbed the bull by the horns and lead nu to a win in a game that they maybe should not have won. if you are trying to say he is above par you i would like to know what you have been watching this year. nu goalie has shown to be no better than sub par!!! Litch may have given up 15 against nu but nu 8 in the two games as well. that is not a impressive number
I don't think anybody said above par did they?? So because in your eyes he has not played out of his mind and had a spectacular game he is sub-par? I assume you have been to all of the New Ulm games to be able to make that statement? I would consider a "par" Goalie as one that makes the saves he is suppose to. I agree 8 goals in the two games against Litchfield is not good. But it is way better than 15. I am not saying Burgau is the next Patrick Roy but he is not a sub-par goalie. He is also better than the goalie on the other side of the rink tonite!
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Post by hockeydude333 »

stops all the shots he is suppose to? i have been to many games this year around the area not just nu games, but the one game that does stand out about nu goalie is the litch game in litch. if he stops all the shots he is SUPPOSE to nu would have one that game by 2 maybe three. if i remember right i think there was a dumb in goal, a weak short-side goal and i am pretty sure there was maybe on more i might be wrong though. as for tonight burgau will have to prove that he is the better goalie. i think the other goalie has more on his track record. he has taken his team to state and he has given his team a chance to win and beat teams this year that they should have never been in the game with. nu goalie cant say that. both goalies are sub par
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Post by Goos_nu_eagles »

hockeydude333 wrote:stops all the shots he is suppose to? i have been to many games this year around the area not just nu games, but the one game that does stand out about nu goalie is the litch game in litch. if he stops all the shots he is SUPPOSE to nu would have one that game by 2 maybe three. if i remember right i think there was a dumb in goal, a weak short-side goal and i am pretty sure there was maybe on more i might be wrong though. as for tonight burgau will have to prove that he is the better goalie. i think the other goalie has more on his track record. he has taken his team to state and he has given his team a chance to win and beat teams this year that they should have never been in the game with. nu goalie cant say that. both goalies are sub par
Do you remember the sick leg save he made off a rebound shot when he was down that game?
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Post by hockeydude333 »

ya and he did make some really nice saves in that game. but i think there was more weak goals and shots he was suppose to stop. from what i have saw he will make some great saves but five minutes later let in a weak goal that he should have stopped.
Garry Bettman
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Post by Garry Bettman »

Tell you what guys... Blake burgau has a lot alot more skill and talent than bryce johnson.. its obvious to anyone that knows a lick about a goalie that blake looks like he knows what he is doing in there, movement is quicker and more efficient, his positioning is better. Johnson is inconsistent, but lately has been keeping the puck out of the net.So does it really matter if his technique stinks. not really. Both goalies can be scored on thats for sure........ the goalie who is better tonight wins the game.
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Post by hoccardger »

well, it will be interesting to see what you all say tomorrow. Both goalies are fine - not outstanding - just fine. The two best goalies in the section will be watching the game from the stands.

tonights game will not be a game of great goalie saves with a goalie carrying his team to state like most sections have. The goalie is like the quarterback - if you have an average quarterback, it takes more of a TEAM to win. However, the strong quarterback (Farve) can bring a team to a championship. I think at state the two goalies here will have a difficult time.

This game is not going to come down to the goalie, but to powerplays. If Litch can get some penalties called on NU, they will have an advantage. I think NU might choke though - I don't see them having the attitude to grind it out and win, even though I think they have more depth.

It will be a fun one to watch.

Where are the Redwood and Luverne people now??? 8 months and we will be back at it :lol:
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Post by HockeyFan033 »

hockeydude333 wrote:stops all the shots he is suppose to? i have been to many games this year around the area not just nu games, but the one game that does stand out about nu goalie is the litch game in litch. if he stops all the shots he is SUPPOSE to nu would have one that game by 2 maybe three. if i remember right i think there was a dumb in goal, a weak short-side goal and i am pretty sure there was maybe on more i might be wrong though. as for tonight burgau will have to prove that he is the better goalie. i think the other goalie has more on his track record. he has taken his team to state and he has given his team a chance to win and beat teams this year that they should have never been in the game with. nu goalie cant say that. both goalies are sub par
We will see tonite who is the better Goalie. Have you ever seen an NHL goalie let in a weak goal? Maybe have an off night? I suppose all of them are also sub-par goalies because of that. How in the world did they ever make to the pros? When goalies make mistakes they are magnified by the position they play. Nobody (most people) remembers the give up by a defensemen in front of the net that lead to a goal. Or a wing that didn't score on an open net. They always seem to remember a weak goal let in by a goalie. Who in your great goalie mind is a "PAR" or ABOVE PAR" goalie in this section?
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Post by hoccardger »

Well, looking at who Hutch plays, I think Sweson is better then Johnson and Burgau. Campion is the only reason Marshall beat NU and tied Hutch and stayed in the Lourdes game. Had some shut outs on weaker teams, but he is better than the two tonight too.

They are all fine kids...yep - goalie position is magnified - I will give you that!
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Post by Garry Bettman »

No one from Luverne can sit down to go on the computer because they got their fannies spanked too hard by new ulm..

ha if i was from luverne i probably wouldnt wanna show my face on here either! ha they got flat out embarassed and to make things worse they embarassed themselves and their town with their bad sportsmanship... hahahahahaha FOOLS! Id be embarassed if i was from luverne, or associated with luverne hockey......... 8) :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Post by rratldc »

I've enjoyed reading all the posts over the last couple weeks. Just glad to say we're still playing. I think if we can take care of Fisher (NU) in front of our net, we'll do ok. He was the thorn in the last game. And limit the rebounds and stay out of the box. Should be a blast!
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Post by new2coachin »

rratldc wrote:I've enjoyed reading all the posts over the last couple weeks. Just glad to say we're still playing. I think if we can take care of Fisher (NU) in front of our net, we'll do ok. He was the thorn in the last game. And limit the rebounds and stay out of the box. Should be a blast!
Good Luck with that, it will take two of your players just to tie him up, and trying to play the body will be like hitting a brick wall, keep your head up if you try that :lol: .
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Post by rratldc »

Yeah, i hear you on that. I'm hoping that last game with them fuels the fire a bit for our guys. we had a 2 goal lead with 2 mins left and let them tie it up. Then the spanking they gave us early in the year - that was probably our worst game of the year in all aspects.
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Post by timcorbin21 »

sure sounds like most of the posts today come from the same goofy kid
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Post by Garry Bettman »

Corbin quit hatin on me... Pick on someone your own age ... 2-1 nu 9 min left in first.. Burgau just made a huge glove save on a breakaway by Adams Nu looks good in first litch looks good this period 2-1 nu
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Post by new2coachin »

Garry Bettman wrote:Corbin quit hatin on me... Pick on someone your own age ... 2-1 nu 9 min left in first.. Burgau just made a huge glove save on a breakaway by Adams Nu looks good in first litch looks good this period 2-1 nu
New Ulm wins 5-2. Outshoots Litch 33-21. Great game Eagles, its about time! Now go make some noise next week at the X as the underdogs!
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New Ulm Wins

Post by Tigers95 »

Congrats to the Eagles. Nice to see Jeff Banal got for them. Good luck at state.
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Post by Goos_nu_eagles »

Congrats to the Eagles. It's been a long time coming.
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