How is the all tournament team picked? What a joke!

DW · Post by DW » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:42 pm

How does a ninth grader from Apple Valley with 1 goal and 1 assist make the all tournament team?

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:58 pm

Good question, thought he played well though...

HomeBarkingDog · Post by **HomeBarkingDog** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 4:59 pm

did you not watch him play all weekend? Im guessing he took a spot from you or one of your teammates. He had 2 points...but you dont need to have an abundance of points to be a good player out there. I think he is derserving of it

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:01 pm

DW wrote:How does a ninth grader from Apple Valley with 1 goal and 1 assist make the all tournament team?

It's not all about goals and assists. I thought Fasching had a good all-around showing in the tournament. I wasn't surprised at all with him being selected to the All-Tournament Team.

DW · Post by DW » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:18 pm

[quote="muckandgrind"][quote="DW"]How does a ninth grader from Apple Valley with 1 goal and 1 assist make the all tournament team?[/quote]

It's not all about goals and assists. I thought Fasching had a good all-around showing in the tournament. I wasn't surprised at all with him being selected to the All-Tournament Team.[/quote]

I agree it's not all about goals and assists. But it's got to be a some sort of quantifable measurement. How about best toe drag?....How about biggest ninth grader?.....How about making his team better?.....How about most playing time? How about Mr Hockey? Why not him for all tournament? How about all the stars from Minnetonka who made it after a disappointing tournament?

fivehole628 · Post by **fivehole628** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:24 pm

DW wrote:
muckandgrind wrote:
DW wrote:How does a ninth grader from Apple Valley with 1 goal and 1 assist make the all tournament team?
It's not all about goals and assists. I thought Fasching had a good all-around showing in the tournament. I wasn't surprised at all with him being selected to the All-Tournament Team.
I agree it's not all about goals and assists. But it's got to be a some sort of quantifable measurement. How about best toe drag?....How about biggest ninth grader?.....How about making his team better?.....How about most playing time? How about Mr Hockey? Why not him for all tournament? How about all the stars from Minnetonka who made it after a disappointing tournament?

Yeah because 2nd place in the MN State high school hockey tournament is disappointing...

RFFalcon22 · Post by **RFFalcon22** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:26 pm

FYI, Mr. Hockey didn't have any points in the tournament.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:28 pm

I thought Michealson was better, but both played well.

muckandgrind · Post by **muckandgrind** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:28 pm

DW wrote:
muckandgrind wrote:
DW wrote:How does a ninth grader from Apple Valley with 1 goal and 1 assist make the all tournament team?
It's not all about goals and assists. I thought Fasching had a good all-around showing in the tournament. I wasn't surprised at all with him being selected to the All-Tournament Team.
I agree it's not all about goals and assists. But it's got to be a some sort of quantifable measurement. How about best toe drag?....How about biggest ninth grader?.....How about making his team better?.....How about most playing time? How about Mr Hockey? Why not him for all tournament? How about all the stars from Minnetonka who made it after a disappointing tournament?

He was most definitely the "biggest" 9th grader, he got tons of ice time and did make his team better.

Are you suggesting some sort of conspiracy??

Roseauverrated · Post by **Roseauverrated** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:29 pm

fivehole628 wrote:
DW wrote:
muckandgrind wrote: It's not all about goals and assists. I thought Fasching had a good all-around showing in the tournament. I wasn't surprised at all with him being selected to the All-Tournament Team.
I agree it's not all about goals and assists. But it's got to be a some sort of quantifable measurement. How about best toe drag?....How about biggest ninth grader?.....How about making his team better?.....How about most playing time? How about Mr Hockey? Why not him for all tournament? How about all the stars from Minnetonka who made it after a disappointing tournament?
Yeah because 2nd place in the MN State high school hockey tournament is disappointing...

Well when you were undefeated for most of the season and ranked #1 in the state all season long it kind of is. Not trying to take anything away from Tonka, they still had an unbelievable season, but I guarantee all their players are disappointed with the way the tournament ended.

BBB · Post by **BBB** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:36 pm

Two points in three games against blaine, hm, and edina isn't bad and his play wasn't either. They only scored 5 goals for the tournament and the guys who chose it probably wanted to include at least a guy from the team who made it to the 3rd place game.
I don't know how you can doubt how Tonka guys were on there. Krueger was the reason they were in the finals and his play Friday made it tough to keep him off of there. His save % was 93.5 for the weekend. Not bad. Prochno was probably the most solid D in the tourney and scored 3 of the 4 goals tonka scored in their final two games. Holl had a goal and two assists but wasn't at his best. Holl and Prochno combined for 19 shots on goal and that's with very few PP's. Between thosee two and gardiner (Tonka stars as you call them) they scored 7 of tonkas 10 goals. Gardiner just led the AA tourney in hits, shots on goal, points, goals, and was a +3 behind some edina guys who were a +4. Mn hockey hub also had him winning 48 draws. Who would you replace those guys with on the all tourney team?

5thgraders · Post by **5thgraders** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 5:51 pm

Fasching who sniped a empty netter was amazing.

Lavalle scored with the goalie in the net.

Lavalle assist was pretty nice too.

Empty net all tournament team.

nipe 6 · Post by **nipe 6** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:13 pm

Congrats to Fasching!!! Must be an awesome award for a 9th grader.

The51 · Post by **The51** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 8:16 pm

DW wrote:How does a ninth grader from Apple Valley with 1 goal and 1 assist make the all tournament team?

not to mention an empty net goal... im completely with you here didnt deserve it

warriors41 · Post by **warriors41** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:06 pm

The51 wrote:
DW wrote:How does a ninth grader from Apple Valley with 1 goal and 1 assist make the all tournament team?
not to mention an empty net goal... im completely with you here didnt deserve it

He, along with his goalie, were the best players on the only team to make an upset in either class. He was impressive on the ice. I imagine we will be hearing his name quite a bit for the next three years

blueblood · Post by **blueblood** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:24 pm

was the best player on the ice in the AV vs. Blaine game.

If he scored only 1 goal, it wasn't a snipe 5thgraderube, because he scored an empty netter against Blaine...

HappyHockeyFan · Post by **HappyHockeyFan** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 9:55 pm

Anyone who doesnt think Fasching deserved to be on the ALL Tournament team doesnt understand hockey and is a joke !!

halla · Post by **halla** » Mon Mar 15, 2010 10:33 pm

The all tournament team is for players who stand out at the tournament. To me, Fasching definitely stood out.

Sure you can maybe say some other people were also deserving. That doesn't mean it was a "joke" to pick Fasching. And if you don't like the selection of some Tonka players (though I'm not sure which ones), I don't see what that has to do with the selection of Fasching.

dpsaucer5 · Post by **dpsaucer5** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 12:14 am

i dont know if im the only one who thinks this but i think its weird that no one from the consolation bracket make it. if knochemnues sp? got 5 assists in one game, i believe he is deserving of all tournament team aswell. his team won more games than apple valley did so i dont understand why they think the bottom four teams shouldnt be included in that.

but with this fasching argument i think he is good but not quite good enough to be mentioned in the same category as prochno, holl, gardiner, everson, or any of those other guys on the all tournament team. i also think that michaelson was more of a standout player than fasching.

inthestands · Post by **inthestands** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 7:20 am

Another thread proving no matter what form of human decision making takes place, there will be someone thinking they could do a better job.

Coaching, officiating, picking all tournament teams, and so on..

I would have to speculate the people selecting these teams watched all the games, and had some set guidelines about the selection process.

It's unlikely anyone but the selection committee took the time to watch all games, and without priority of their player or their home town.

Congrats to all the players in the tourney, and to the hard workers that were selected to the all tournament team!

nobama · Post by **nobama** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 8:27 am

No disrespect but go to Oprah.

You earn things in life ??? well not anymore.....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ALL TOURNAMENT TEAM, I APOLOGIZE ON THIS I FELL OFF MY CHAIR AND CRACKED MY HEAD OPEN WHEN I READ HE WAS ALL TOURNAMENT.

jancze5 · Post by **jancze5** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:16 am

Irregardless of all of our opinions, the reality exists that the next 4 NHL drafts will have Minnesotan as one of the top 3 North American players selected...lets just root for these kids, they're all special. And for Fasching as a freshman to standout with kids 4 years older than him on the ice, good for him. Great tournament to watch..

2010-Bjustad (he couldn't spell my name, so if I mess his up, sorry)
2011-Ambroz
2012-Michaelson
2013-Fashing

EHSHack · Post by **EHSHack** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:35 am

2010 has Bjugstad and Derek Forbort.

seek & destroy · Post by **seek & destroy** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 10:38 am

jancze5 wrote:Irregardless of all of our opinions, the reality exists that the next 4 NHL drafts will have Minnesotan as one of the top 3 North American players selected...lets just root for these kids, they're all special. And for Fasching as a freshman to standout with kids 4 years older than him on the ice, good for him. Great tournament to watch..

2010-Bjustad (he couldn't spell my name, so if I mess his up, sorry)
2011-Ambroz
2012-Michaelson
2013-Fashing

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Tue Mar 16, 2010 11:00 am

jancze5 wrote:Irregardless of all of our opinions, the reality exists that the next 4 NHL drafts will have Minnesotan as one of the top 3 North American players selected...lets just root for these kids, they're all special. And for Fasching as a freshman to standout with kids 4 years older than him on the ice, good for him. Great tournament to watch..

2010-Bjustad (he couldn't spell my name, so if I mess his up, sorry)
2011-Ambroz
2012-Michaelson
2013-Fashing

I could see some other players from 2012 and 2013 with more opportunity than those you named

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