2000 Torspo vs 2000 Blades

[polyman22]

Is it true that the 00 Torspo tied the Blades?

Does any one know if there are any Monoply players doing double duty on the Blades?

[eastondude]

Well, Well What will TerryMoore17 will say to that?

[noIinteam]

Should be interesting to see how the Blades do in the "open" level tournament they have coming up - is this how they want to prep fo the Brick?

They should will win at that level - Monopoly will not have all their kids and Iceman won't have a key player they did when they beat monopoly - so blades should be safe unless things really fall apart....

Playing Torspo to a tie and then playing in an open level toutnament - WOW?

Maybe they didn't expect to win? Why would they scrim Torspo and not Machine? If they tie Torspo what does that tell you? I have to believe they expected to beat them by multiple goals but Blades just are not very good.

[Deep Breath]

It seems the 2000 version of the Blades just isn't an elite team yet. Doesn't mean they won't find players down the road that will help them improve, but as of now, they appear to be the same as the Torspo, Monopoly and Icemen. Don't have any insight to the team backing out of a tournament to get away from the Orange, but with the massive turnover they had from a year ago, which included losing several of the top-end players, plus the fact that the 2000 birth year is no where near as deep as the 99s or 98s, the '00 Blades seem to be trying to build the team and maybe avoiding the Orange by scrimmaging the Torpso is the way they want to do it. Whatever the reason, you would think playing the Torspo to a tie, if that's what happened, would get them ready for the likes of the Snipers and Legacy next weekend. You just don't usually equate the Blades with playing open-level teams; not at least in years gone by.

[EnjoyTheShow]

Is it true that the 00 Torspo tied the Blades?

Does any one know if there are any Monoply players doing double duty on the Blades?

Sounds like the team that played tonight was only Blades players, no additions.

[muckandgrind]

My gawd people....you're talking about 10 year olds....give 'em a little time before writing them off for dead. I don't judge a AAA team's quality until they reach that PeeWee Major/Bantam Minor age level. You need to allow them a few years to develop and tweak the roster. Again, don't worry about the Blades, they'll be just fine.

[HockeyDad41]

Oh the drama - I don't think anyone has written them off yet. I think Deep Breath nailed it. The current 2000 team is not the elite team everyone assumes they are just because they have the name Blades on their jersey.

Could this be the beginning of the beginning of the end of Blades domination? Too early to tell, but there is definitely a chink showing in the under armor at the 2000 level.

Disclaimer: I respect the Blades organization and wish them a speedy return to the top at the 2000 level. Even the great programs have a hiccup once in a while.

[muckandgrind]

Oh the drama - I don't think anyone has written them off yet. I think Deep Breath nailed it. The current 2000 team is not the elite team everyone assumes they are just because they have the name Blades on their jersey.

Could this be the beginning of the beginning of the end of Blades domination? Too early to tell, but there is definitely a chink showing in the under armor at the 2000 level.

Disclaimer: I respect the Blades organization and wish them a speedy return to the top at the 2000 level. Even the great programs have a hiccup once in a while.

They are FREAKING 10 YEARS OLD!!!!! They tie a game, maybe lose a few, and the sky is falling??

You must be extremely new to this game if you think you can start determining a trend by how a team of 10 year olds are doing. This is only the beginning of their journey. Get back to me when these kids are 13-15 years old and THEN lets talk about "chinks in the under armor".

[HockeyDad41]

Oh the drama - I don't think anyone has written them off yet. I think Deep Breath nailed it. The current 2000 team is not the elite team everyone assumes they are just because they have the name Blades on their jersey.

Could this be the beginning of the beginning of the end of Blades domination? Too early to tell, but there is definitely a chink showing in the under armor at the 2000 level.

Disclaimer: I respect the Blades organization and wish them a speedy return to the top at the 2000 level. Even the great programs have a hiccup once in a while.

They are FREAKING 10 YEARS OLD!!!!! They tie a game, maybe lose a few, and the sky is falling??

You must be extremely new to this game if you think you can start determining a trend by how a team of 10 year olds are doing. This is only the beginning of their journey. Get back to me when these kids are 13-15 years old and THEN lets talk about "chinks in the under armor".

Oh give me a break.

We are talking about the here and now and when a team that has been put on a pedistal like the Blades have comes back to the pack or doesn't live up to the hype it's a legitimate topic for discussion.

Or does none of this count until they hit 13 years old?

I will be interested to see how they do this weekend. I still think they will destroy most of the teams they face, but maybe I'm wrong.

[muckandgrind]

Oh the drama - I don't think anyone has written them off yet. I think Deep Breath nailed it. The current 2000 team is not the elite team everyone assumes they are just because they have the name Blades on their jersey.

Could this be the beginning of the beginning of the end of Blades domination? Too early to tell, but there is definitely a chink showing in the under armor at the 2000 level.

Disclaimer: I respect the Blades organization and wish them a speedy return to the top at the 2000 level. Even the great programs have a hiccup once in a while.

They are FREAKING 10 YEARS OLD!!!!! They tie a game, maybe lose a few, and the sky is falling??

You must be extremely new to this game if you think you can start determining a trend by how a team of 10 year olds are doing. This is only the beginning of their journey. Get back to me when these kids are 13-15 years old and THEN lets talk about "chinks in the under armor".

Oh give me a break.

We are talking about the here and now and when a team that has been put on a pedistal like the Blades have comes back to the pack or doesn't live up to the hype it's a legitimate topic for discussion.

Or does none of this count until they hit 13 years old?

I will be interested to see how they do this weekend. I still think they will destroy most of the teams they face, but maybe I'm wrong.

To answer your question....no not really. Not until they start hitting, anyways. It's at that point when you can really start to judge how good a team is. At 10, they are still way too young and raw to get a feel. I've been around a while to see some teams dominate at the Squirt age and disappear once checking gets introduced.

You need to chill out a bit. Let the kids grow a little hair under their arms before making snap judgements about how good that group of players really is...

[offside14]

Oh the drama - I don't think anyone has written them off yet. I think Deep Breath nailed it. The current 2000 team is not the elite team everyone assumes they are just because they have the name Blades on their jersey.

Could this be the beginning of the beginning of the end of Blades domination? Too early to tell, but there is definitely a chink showing in the under armor at the 2000 level.

Disclaimer: I respect the Blades organization and wish them a speedy return to the top at the 2000 level. Even the great programs have a hiccup once in a while.

They are FREAKING 10 YEARS OLD!!!!! They tie a game, maybe lose a few, and the sky is falling??

You must be extremely new to this game if you think you can start determining a trend by how a team of 10 year olds are doing. This is only the beginning of their journey. Get back to me when these kids are 13-15 years old and THEN lets talk about "chinks in the under armor".

Hey Muck, don't think anyone asked you specifically what was wrong with the 2000 Blades team. You sound as if this very personal to you. I don't think any of us will be putting a date on the calender for 3 -5 years from now to re-visit this conversation with YOU, even though you seem to think you are an authority on the subject . The comments have been made about a team that is and has been a 1 or 2 team in Minnesota for years. Now this team is nowhere near as dominant as in the past, people comment about it, and now the rest of us are new to hockey and have no clue about hockey because we are pointing this out. Yes these kids are 10, but none of this is directed at the kids more at the organization and some of the crazy things they have done in forming this team. Not to mention the fact that it is a brick year for the 2000's and this is what is about to represent the state of hockey in Edmonton. Your arrogance has blinded you my friend, take a good long hard look at that team without your rose colored glasses and you might see the concern the rest of us have.

[muckandgrind]

Oh the drama - I don't think anyone has written them off yet. I think Deep Breath nailed it. The current 2000 team is not the elite team everyone assumes they are just because they have the name Blades on their jersey.

Could this be the beginning of the beginning of the end of Blades domination? Too early to tell, but there is definitely a chink showing in the under armor at the 2000 level.

Disclaimer: I respect the Blades organization and wish them a speedy return to the top at the 2000 level. Even the great programs have a hiccup once in a while.

They are FREAKING 10 YEARS OLD!!!!! They tie a game, maybe lose a few, and the sky is falling??

You must be extremely new to this game if you think you can start determining a trend by how a team of 10 year olds are doing. This is only the beginning of their journey. Get back to me when these kids are 13-15 years old and THEN lets talk about "chinks in the under armor".

Hey Muck, don't think anyone asked you specifically what was wrong with the 2000 Blades team. You sound as if this very personal to you. I don't think any of us will be putting a date on the calender for 3 -5 years from now to re-visit this conversation with YOU, even though you seem to think you are an authority on the subject . The comments have been made about a team that is and has been a 1 or 2 team in Minnesota for years. Now this team is nowhere near as dominant as in the past, people comment about it, and now the rest of us are new to hockey and have no clue about hockey because we are pointing this out. Yes these kids are 10, but none of this is directed at the kids more at the organization and some of the crazy things they have done in forming this team. Not to mention the fact that it is a brick year for the 2000's and this is what is about to represent the state of hockey in Edmonton. Your arrogance has blinded you my friend, take a good long hard look at that team without your rose colored glasses and you might see the concern the rest of us have.

Nothing personal at all about it....My boys are all older than 10. And if someone were saying the same thing about the 2000 Machine, Torspo, or any other team, my point is still valid. These kids aren't even playing "real" hockey yet, and parents want to make judgements about programs bases on whether a group of 10 year olds may have tied or lost a couple of games.

You people really need to take a deep breath and chill out. Things change a lot year to year. How is that "dominate" 10 year old going to react when the game gets physical???. The kid who might not look as good right now, may pick it up and pass the others by. I've seen it happen time and time again.

Most of the truely "elite" players will start to separate themselves from the rest of the pack between the ages of 13-15. At the age of 10, it's too early to determine who those eilte players (and teams) will be.

[HockeyDad41]

They are FREAKING 10 YEARS OLD!!!!! They tie a game, maybe lose a few, and the sky is falling??

You must be extremely new to this game if you think you can start determining a trend by how a team of 10 year olds are doing. This is only the beginning of their journey. Get back to me when these kids are 13-15 years old and THEN lets talk about "chinks in the under armor".

Oh give me a break.

We are talking about the here and now and when a team that has been put on a pedistal like the Blades have comes back to the pack or doesn't live up to the hype it's a legitimate topic for discussion.

Or does none of this count until they hit 13 years old?

I will be interested to see how they do this weekend. I still think they will destroy most of the teams they face, but maybe I'm wrong.

To answer your question....no not really. Not until they start hitting, anyways. It's at that point when you can really start to judge how good a team is. At 10, they are still way too young and raw to get a feel. I've been around a while to see some teams dominate at the Squirt age and disappear once checking gets introduced.

You need to chill out a bit. Let the kids grow a little hair under their arms before making snap judgements about how good that group of players really is...

Relax. I was being sarcastic.

You think I am making a snap judgement and predicting the demise of the 00 blades? Sorry you misunderstood. I was merely wondering out loud if their recent lack of success is an indicator of things to come if they continue to try to compete at the elite level tournaments. Like I also said I hope they fix it. BTW - I have been following the Blades since the '92 group started.

[muckandgrind]

Oh give me a break.

We are talking about the here and now and when a team that has been put on a pedistal like the Blades have comes back to the pack or doesn't live up to the hype it's a legitimate topic for discussion.

Or does none of this count until they hit 13 years old?

I will be interested to see how they do this weekend. I still think they will destroy most of the teams they face, but maybe I'm wrong.

To answer your question....no not really. Not until they start hitting, anyways. It's at that point when you can really start to judge how good a team is. At 10, they are still way too young and raw to get a feel. I've been around a while to see some teams dominate at the Squirt age and disappear once checking gets introduced.

You need to chill out a bit. Let the kids grow a little hair under their arms before making snap judgements about how good that group of players really is...

Relax. I was being sarcastic.

You think I am making a snap judgement and predicting the demise of the 00 blades? Sorry you misunderstood. I was merely wondering out loud if their recent lack of success is an indicator of things to come if they continue to try to compete at the elite level tournaments. Like I also said I hope they fix it. BTW - I have been following the Blades since the '92 group started.

There is nothing to fix. They're 10.

[HockeyDad41]

To answer your question....no not really. Not until they start hitting, anyways. It's at that point when you can really start to judge how good a team is. At 10, they are still way too young and raw to get a feel. I've been around a while to see some teams dominate at the Squirt age and disappear once checking gets introduced.

You need to chill out a bit. Let the kids grow a little hair under their arms before making snap judgements about how good that group of players really is...

Relax. I was being sarcastic.

You think I am making a snap judgement and predicting the demise of the 00 blades? Sorry you misunderstood. I was merely wondering out loud if their recent lack of success is an indicator of things to come if they continue to try to compete at the elite level tournaments. Like I also said I hope they fix it. BTW - I have been following the Blades since the '92 group started.

There is nothing to fix. They're 10.

If the Blades want to continue to enjoy the reputation they worked so hard to achieve there sure as heck is.

[muckandgrind]

Relax. I was being sarcastic.

You think I am making a snap judgement and predicting the demise of the 00 blades? Sorry you misunderstood. I was merely wondering out loud if their recent lack of success is an indicator of things to come if they continue to try to compete at the elite level tournaments. Like I also said I hope they fix it. BTW - I have been following the Blades since the '92 group started.

There is nothing to fix. They're 10.

If the Blades want to continue to enjoy the reputation they worked so hard to achieve there sure as heck is.

Again....you're talking about 10 year olds. Nothing to fix. These kids aren't even playing real hockey yet. Talk to me when they are 12.

[MrBoDangles]

It seems the 2000 version of the Blades just isn't an elite team yet. Doesn't mean they won't find players down the road that will help them improve, but as of now, they appear to be the same as the Torspo, Monopoly and Icemen. Don't have any insight to the team backing out of a tournament to get away from the Orange, but with the massive turnover they had from a year ago, which included losing several of the top-end players, plus the fact that the 2000 birth year is no where near as deep as the 99s or 98s, the '00 Blades seem to be trying to build the team and maybe avoiding the Orange by scrimmaging the Torpso is the way they want to do it. Whatever the reason, you would think playing the Torspo to a tie, if that's what happened, would get them ready for the likes of the Snipers and Legacy next weekend. You just don't usually equate the Blades with playing open-level teams; not at least in years gone by.

Who is really missing from the AAA MN landscape besides Torspo and Machine? Are you saying that "the" Machine is the only invite caliber team in MN?

[HockeyDad41]

There is nothing to fix. They're 10.

If the Blades want to continue to enjoy the reputation they worked so hard to achieve there sure as heck is.

Again....you're talking about 10 year olds. Nothing to fix. These kids aren't even playing real hockey yet. Talk to me when they are 12.

LOL - I just told my kid that he wouldn't be playing real hockey for a couple of years because REAL hockey doesn't start until you are 13. He said that was just about the dumbest thing he ever heard.

[MrBoDangles]

If the Blades want to continue to enjoy the reputation they worked so hard to achieve there sure as heck is.

Again....you're talking about 10 year olds. Nothing to fix. These kids aren't even playing real hockey yet. Talk to me when they are 12.

LOL - I just told my kid that he wouldn't be playing real hockey for a couple of years because REAL hockey doesn't start until you are 13. He said that was just about the dumbest thing he ever heard.

Checking is a huge part of real hockey....... They are playing a kids (flag football) type version right now.
The apple doesn't fall very far from the tree.

[muckandgrind]

If the Blades want to continue to enjoy the reputation they worked so hard to achieve there sure as heck is.

Again....you're talking about 10 year olds. Nothing to fix. These kids aren't even playing real hockey yet. Talk to me when they are 12.

LOL - I just told my kid that he wouldn't be playing real hockey for a couple of years because REAL hockey doesn't start until you are 13. He said that was just about the dumbest thing he ever heard.

Maybe you ought to set him straight.....If you think that the game doesn't change dramatically for kids once the hittin' begins, then you are more naive than I thought! At the age of 10, kids are still skating with their heads down because they know they won't get hit.

[HockeyDad41]

It's like this topic just ricocheted.

Did anyone see the game? I've seen the 00 Torspo and they are a decent team. I saw the 2000 blades team last year in the Caribou Cup and they were awesome. I understand that is not the same team though.

Will the same team that played the Torspo be playing in the International Cup or will they bring in other kids?

[O-townClown]

Of far more interest than whether the 2000 Blades can beat the 2000 Torspo or 2000 Machine is why do you guys quote each other instead of just replying. I can assure you nobody is re-reading all the stuff you are quoting going forward.

I still remember some of my Squirt games over 30 years ago. To say that none of this matters or that it isn't real hockey is extreme. They keep score, don't they?

Perhaps you are questioning whether all-star or elite teams at this age are a predictor of anything. Of course that's a valid point. With that said, remember that the biggest game in a 10-year-old's season is the biggest game they've ever played.

[muckandgrind]

I think most people understand what I meant when I said "real hockey"....and I think you get it as well. To paraphrase what MrBoDangles said; Squirt hockey to PeeWee/Bantam hockey is like flag football to tackle football. The game completely changes once hitting is introduced. The star Squirt player who could take the puck end to end will get that "wake-up call" when they try to do the same in PeeWees. It's then when you start to see who can handle the physical play and who can't. So again, have fun watching your 10 year old play AAA, just know that things change big time when they get to the next level.

Again, the only reason I'm pointing this out is because I'm seeing parents actually judging programs based on what they are seeing from 10 year olds. It's ludicrous!!!!

[EnjoyTheShow]

It's like this topic just ricocheted.

Did anyone see the game? I've seen the 00 Torspo and they are a decent team. I saw the 2000 blades team last year in the Caribou Cup and they were awesome. I understand that is not the same team though.

Will the same team that played the Torspo be playing in the International Cup or will they bring in other kids?

I didn't think the 00' Blades played in the Caribou last year. I am probably wrong though. It is a tough comparison as the blades roster is almost completely different this year, isn't it?

[O-townClown]

Again, the only reason I'm pointing this out is because I'm seeing parents actually judging programs based on what they are seeing from 10 year olds. It's ludicrous!!!!

I'm 1500 miles away obviously, but I think people find it interesting that a program that usually fields a real strong team of 10 year olds didn't.