EnjoyTheShow wrote:Wow! Where do I start. I won't even bother to address the fact that I'm not scott again, as even when it was shown I wasn't you continue to not let reality get in the way of your fantasy world.
So if you feel it is OK to throw his name around let's do that. If he is such a low life why did jensen continually ask him to coach the fire (WRONG -NOT EVEN CLOSE TO THE TRUTH!) when Tell it like it aint (Jungle) bailed on the team??? Why did he text Scott while he was at the brick begging him to get "the red helmet kid" to play for the fire?? Looks like that ship has sailed anyways.
Fact is that the Monopoly would have scrimmaged in addition to playing the tournament. Heck they would play 2 tournament games then scrimmage the machine. They aren't SCARED! They also wouldn't care if they ost as they want to play good competition. If the top dogs want to play legitimate teams with proven track records, why are the instead playing the 99' Icemen? I'm sure the 99' icemen are a good group of kids, but they just aren't competitive (99 Icemen took 3rd in the Meltdown at 99 level - at the 00 level Monopoly lost to The Icemen who subsequently lost shortly there after to the Machine by a tight score of 9 - 1?).
The machine were scheduled to play in the Easton cup and got scared. jungles originally called showcase to complain about having to play the monopoly on Saturday. Sounds like the coach is only brave when he is attacking 10 year olds!
As far as the florida joke I guess I just don get it (Bringing in players from Florida to play on the team - get it now?). I'm pretty sure Scott already addressed his wardrobe decision. Your organization is the ones that make boys wear ties and yourself dresses in tshirts (his jeans fit nicely around his waist though - not hanging down past his hips with boxers hanging out - thus HOOP-DEE MTV!). Keith your a little guy can't you borrow one of the kids nice outfits for a game?
Keith, If the machine is so will to play anyone anywhere, why won't they play the monopoly that weekend. You are embarassing yourself yet again! The top dog isn't out! it's a shame that your boys were looking forward to playing in a tournament and your own insecurities are not allowing them to play. Looks like you will be watching the brick kids play again from your couch. No wonder the Brick isn't in your future. I'm sure you'll have a lot to say about the outcome from your living room.
The sad thing is, as a result of your fear the monopoly will absolutely hammer the team you made play instead, and when they get mad they should go to you jingles as you are the guy who caused it.
Okay - so we all know you're not SB (guess it is a little hard to hear sarcasm in printed text).
So with that established you should maybe tell Scott to get his hand out of your a$$ because all you are then is a puppet for his words. EVERYONE knows this - not even worth trying to deny!
So who are you that you know all this inside info about how this all went down? Sounds like you may be a double agent with all your brilliant insight!
All things aside, like I said before - when the Monopoly establishes a record that starts to approach what the Machine has already accomplished over the last two years, well then step into the batter's box. Until then focus on team like Easton and The Edge and start building a record! Then Maybe the petite coach of the orange will take you seriously!
Not sure where you come up with this stuff but they don't have any players coming in from Florida. I also don't understand what the 00' iceman scores have to do with the fact that your team is scrimmaging the 99' iceman. They weren't in the meltdown invite.
You can keep coming up with new excuses. Bottom line is it is to bad these 2 teams couldn't play each other. Should be a fun tournament.
EnjoyTheShow wrote:I was advised to "stay away" from the forum for a while but today I heard something that I can't understand. I'm sure there are a few parents/coaches that can offer some excuses for this.
The Machine pulled out of the Easton cup at the 00' level because they didn't want to play the Monopoly. Originally the Machine coach complained that they were in the same pool. Now he decided to pull his team out a week before the tournament. If a team bills itself as one of the top teams in North America, why are they scared to play any other 00' team. Mind you the kids were all looking forward to playing in this tournament but the coach let his own insecurities get in the way of his teams ability to play. In my opinion it is good for development to play top competition.
What makes this worse in my eyes is that they are throwing to the wolves a below average open team into an invite tournament instead of his team. Now that group of kids has to play a team the machine coaches were scared of. Why would they do that and why are they even allowed to do that a week before the tournament starts. I guess the good thing is the petite coach with the visor won't have the opportunity to yell at the opposing 10 year old players. I guess a little fear will keep him from embarrassing his organization again!
I have some advise for you, stay away from the forum for a while. You are embarassing yourself and more importantly, you are blowing up the topic. Get over it! It's not your game. Pay your fees and get out of the way.
EnjoyTheShow wrote:
Not sure where you come up with this stuff but they don't have any players coming in from Florida. I also don't understand what the 00' iceman scores have to do with the fact that your team is scrimmaging the 99' iceman. They weren't in the meltdown invite.
You can keep coming up with new excuses. Bottom line is it is to bad these 2 teams couldn't play each other. Should be a fun tournament.
No excuses ETS - just getting back to YOUR ORIGINAL quote "the Machine is afraid to play the Monopoly". After all that is where this all started. The fact remains the Machine isn't afraid to play any team much less a team that they have already beaten twice. The schedule just didn't work out so deal with it and keep thinking that your beloved Monopoly team is in the same class as the Machine (or even Icemen this year for that matter)!
SuperStar wrote:It's called the Golden Walleye. Very, very good tourney for the 95 level only - atleast that what is was last year. Held at Mariucci Arena
Correct if I am wrong - but I think that is the correct one
Does anyone know if there is a bracket, or team listing (by birth year) of the teams entered in the Golden Walleye?
This is really ridiculous! There is no need to argue in circles about these things.
As I have said before I won't go under an anonymous screen name. I am the Scott that seems to have my name on here a bit. I am disappointed that we don't have the opportunity to play against the machine. I say this because I know they have a very strong team and I feel it would benefit both teams to play competitive hockey against each other. That said this isn't the forum to debate why or why not any team is playing in a tournament. They dropped and that's that. I don't know why and I don't need to.
I don't really know what I have done to make some on these forums want to attack me. Realistically we are talking about 10 year old hockey teams. I train and care a lot about the players I have the opportunity to work with. I am also a competitive person. I will not come on a forum and publically argue the merits of on ice performance between my team and others. I think its a bit crazy.
To those on here that seem to strongly dislike me, I apologize for whatever it is that I have done to wrong you. I would be happy to have you email me and communicate what I have done and if it seems reasonable, I will change my behavior. I would ask for the courtesy that you communicate with me rather than claiming I am some one else and making up lies about what I do.
In regards to ETS and anyone else who feels the need to defend Monopoly hockey or myself, I would ask you to not waste your time. I would prefer for people to formulate their own opinions on our programs based upon what we do on and off the ice.
I feel that the personal battles is not what the forum was intended for. I understand that our competitive sides get the better of us. These are still young boys. There is no destination at this age and hopefully they will all continue to improve and enjoy this game for a long time.
I am not sure that I ever had my pants on low, but if I did, I apologize for "looking like a fool with my pants on the ground."
Monopolyman wrote:This is really ridiculous! There is no need to argue in circles about these things.
As I have said before I won't go under an anonymous screen name. I am the Scott that seems to have my name on here a bit. I am disappointed that we don't have the opportunity to play against the machine. I say this because I know they have a very strong team and I feel it would benefit both teams to play competitive hockey against each other. That said this isn't the forum to debate why or why not any team is playing in a tournament. They dropped and that's that. I don't know why and I don't need to.
I don't really know what I have done to make some on these forums want to attack me. Realistically we are talking about 10 year old hockey teams. I train and care a lot about the players I have the opportunity to work with. I am also a competitive person. I will not come on a forum and publically argue the merits of on ice performance between my team and others. I think its a bit crazy.
To those on here that seem to strongly dislike me, I apologize for whatever it is that I have done to wrong you. I would be happy to have you email me and communicate what I have done and if it seems reasonable, I will change my behavior. I would ask for the courtesy that you communicate with me rather than claiming I am some one else and making up lies about what I do.
In regards to ETS and anyone else who feels the need to defend Monopoly hockey or myself, I would ask you to not waste your time. I would prefer for people to formulate their own opinions on our programs based upon what we do on and off the ice.
I feel that the personal battles is not what the forum was intended for. I understand that our competitive sides get the better of us. These are still young boys. There is no destination at this age and hopefully they will all continue to improve and enjoy this game for a long time.
I am not sure that I ever had my pants on low, but if I did, I apologize for "looking like a fool with my pants on the ground."
Now lets please make this forum useful.
Great post.
So who do you like to win it all at the 2000 level?
I like "The Attack" sounds like a very aggressive name.
For you information - ZERO problems as far as our family and son are concerned which I have mentioned b4 (which you seem to neglect remembering to read). Nothing short of a very positive experience for us and this is my 3rd son going through aaa, hockey, baseball, football, etc. (so hopefully I have enough experience as a judge). We hope to be invited back next year as do the majority of the players parents, most of which seemingly can't get enough and have asked the coach to do some pre-season assocition tryouts stuff to help their kids as well (because I guess it's such a negative experience they must want some more). Zero sticks. You are not in touch.
Why are you all such Machine haters? They are an awesome team and maybe they just got bored of beating everybody! Maybe they can get more out of a weekend of practice than winning 8-1 or 10-0. Or maybe (I hope not) something happened to someone (an accident or sickness)! Wouldn't that make you feel stupid???! The 2000 Machine is a respectable team, they have TONS of kids who want to play for them, which is more than I can say for a lot of other teams who have to scrounge around to find players.
They're not available for this tournament. The 2000 team is in Siberia training for the 2011 Meltdown.
Wow has this forum ever gone downhill fast since Hockeydad41 has taken to posting frequently. This forum used to provide a great opportunity for discussion and information. Sad to see where we are today. Silly posts that add absolutely nothing to discussions. What an incredible waste of time...
Minnesota needs Tier I, right? Or so the story goes if you ask some. Egads this is a lot of drama over who wins a Squirt game.
The problem I see from a distance is that the Monopoly could pass Go, collect $200, and add players from around the world before winning a rematch.
Machine goes down 4-3 and all the rest of the world would say is, "so?"
Rather than be so consumed with whether Monopoly or some other program can beat the Machine it would make more sense to develop the kids you have. If adult competitiveness is important, work on counting how many players are better than those on the Machine in two years.
You two are unbelievable. This is not a forum for you to personally attack someone or an organization. Both of you need to get a life and get rid of the hostillity. (try exercise) Your children are the true benefactors of this game, and it seems your hate as well. Be an example for them to follow not despise. Let it go and stop giving hockey parents a bad name.
Exnorthstar wrote:Why are you all such Machine haters? They are an awesome team and maybe they just got bored of beating everybody! Maybe they can get more out of a weekend of practice than winning 8-1 or 10-0. Or maybe (I hope not) something happened to someone (an accident or sickness)! Wouldn't that make you feel stupid???! The 2000 Machine is a respectable team, they have TONS of kids who want to play for them, which is more than I can say for a lot of other teams who have to scrounge around to find players.
Almost everyone I have known who has played for the machine lost their passion for hockey by the time they got into high school. Sure it sounds like a good idea as a young player, but it's just too much hockey. I would rather play B1hockey and enjoy it than play A hockey and feel overworked anyday.
What I don't quite understand is why we are always after the Machine kids. It may not be directly stated that way, but essentially, that's what most people are doing here is bashing a bunch of young hockey players. I do not have a kid playing for them, nor will I ever, due to the fact I do not desire to have that big of a committment.
What I can tell you from personal experience is that I had the opportunity to coach several of the 2000 Machine players this past weekend in the Midwest Selects tourney. They were an absolute great bunch of kids who fit into the locker room very well, were true leaders on and off the ice, and I cannot say one negative thing about the experience. They played as a team, worked their butts off, and helped us win a Championship.
Going into the weekend, I was not sure what to expect based on everything you hear/read about the organization. Were these kids going to be a bunch of loose cannons, thinking we should worship the ice they skate on because they are on the Machine? The answer is NO. These were awesome, respectful kids, so all I am asking is that we leave the kids out of the bashing...if you don't like Bernie, so be it. I don't care for his philosophy either, but let the kids be kids and play hockey.
hockeydad0930 wrote:What I don't quite understand is why we are always after the Machine kids. It may not be directly stated that way, but essentially, that's what most people are doing here is bashing a bunch of young hockey players. I do not have a kid playing for them, nor will I ever, due to the fact I do not desire to have that big of a committment.
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This is not a "one-way street"....There are PLENTY of MM parents who continually bash the Blades. If you don't believe me, go back and read all the threads about the Brick.
IMO, I'd never bash the players....I have issues with McBain and how he wears down players and parents to the point where his Machine teams disband by the time they are Pee Wee Major age.
Exnorthstar wrote:Why are you all such Machine haters? They are an awesome team and maybe they just got bored of beating everybody! Maybe they can get more out of a weekend of practice than winning 8-1 or 10-0. Or maybe (I hope not) something happened to someone (an accident or sickness)! Wouldn't that make you feel stupid???! The 2000 Machine is a respectable team, they have TONS of kids who want to play for them, which is more than I can say for a lot of other teams who have to scrounge around to find players.
Almost everyone I have known who has played for the machine lost their passion for hockey by the time they got into high school. Sure it sounds like a good idea as a young player, but it's just too much hockey. I would rather play B1hockey and enjoy it than play A hockey and feel overworked anyday.
Spoken like a true B1 player. Most people that played or play A hockey are competetive as heck and will do whatever it takes to play A - including playing ALL THE TIME.
want to play legitimate teams with proven track records, why are the instead playing the 99' Icemen? I'm sure the 99' icemen are a good group of kids, but they just aren't competitive (99 Icemen took 3rd in the Meltdown at 99 level - at the 00 level Monopoly lost to The Icemen who subsequently lost shortly there after to the Machine by a tight score of 9 - 1?).
