Easton Cup Invite

[My_Kid_Loves_Hockey]

TheJet wrote:
Not blind (I hope). If so I haven't seen it nor heard that it has happened this year, possible - yes. Last year - probably. But different environment, expectations, etc. etc. than last year - glad my 9 year old recognized the heart and passion and that people can change. We think he's great! But I understand if you don't.


Glad you are experiencing a good time. You must be one of his friends in his circle. Or shall I say his followers. We were completely misled by this coach. Yes, I know for a fact he breaks sticks, yells at the kids and benches kids if they make mistakes during games. Yet, we heard, oh, he never benches kids he is sooooo into development that's all the matters. Yet when they played the blades they sure wanted to win awful bad so he played one line for most of the game. Every game in every tournament is all about winning...make a mistake and your out. Unless you are part of his click you "ain't" gonna cut it on his team.

Exnorthstar:

Based upon your comments, he cut your kid (or sometimes the kid because of the parent(s)) or you chose to play elsewhere. Please come clean on your issue with him.The bashing of this guy is very similar to BM and usually it's because they don't see your skater in the same light that you do.............
The experience you had doesn't seem to be the same that others have had.

Your explanation that he must be "one of his click" is pretty funny, are you new to hockey? That is a high school type of reasoning.

I don't know the guy as I have only a 98 player and it seems that there are plenty that feel they are getting instruction/development that suits their needs.

[The Exiled One]

Who won the Easton? R you arguing about the blades and machine again?

http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/docu ... esults.pdf

Aren't both the Machine and Blades playing in the Caribou Cup and isn't that tourney fielding a much deeper and better overall field of teams? So whats the big deal.....

http://assets.ngin.com/attachments/docu ... bAug17.pdf

[Exnorthstar]

If you are who I think you are you have no credibility with me. You need to look in the mirror with respect to behavior at the rink. Thx.

Just remember this...Karma

[Exnorthstar]

TheJet wrote:
Not blind (I hope). If so I haven't seen it nor heard that it has happened this year, possible - yes. Last year - probably. But different environment, expectations, etc. etc. than last year - glad my 9 year old recognized the heart and passion and that people can change. We think he's great! But I understand if you don't.


Glad you are experiencing a good time. You must be one of his friends in his circle. Or shall I say his followers. We were completely misled by this coach. Yes, I know for a fact he breaks sticks, yells at the kids and benches kids if they make mistakes during games. Yet, we heard, oh, he never benches kids he is sooooo into development that's all the matters. Yet when they played the blades they sure wanted to win awful bad so he played one line for most of the game. Every game in every tournament is all about winning...make a mistake and your out. Unless you are part of his click you "ain't" gonna cut it on his team.

Exnorthstar:

Based upon your comments, he cut your kid (or sometimes the kid because of the parent(s)) or you chose to play elsewhere. Please come clean on your issue with him.The bashing of this guy is very similar to BM and usually it's because they don't see your skater in the same light that you do.............
The experience you had doesn't seem to be the same that others have had.

Your explanation that he must be "one of his click" is pretty funny, are you new to hockey? That is a high school type of reasoning.

I don't know the guy as I have only a 98 player and it seems that there are plenty that feel they are getting instruction/development that suits their needs.

Yes we are new to hockey and we were misled in an unfortunate way and this guy will not get any praise from us and we will not recommend him to anyone. We now hear from many others in the hockey community to stay away from this guy. Too bad we didn't know from the beginning. If more people would recommened and tell the truth then newcomers to AAA hockey would benefit.

[TheJet]

Most of the development is practice related, probably why some other country's don't play games until later years. Tournaments are there to go after and win - especially at the invite level - a big reason why teams are allowed to pick up "other" players?

[Ponies80]

If you are who I think you are you have no credibility with me. You need to look in the mirror with respect to behavior at the rink. Thx.

Look who's talking, and this person we have all been hearing about, and we know who he is, does not even coach my son anymore from last year, as he moved on.
Leaders will lead, followers will follow, talk about credibility.

We should all get back to using this board for what it should be used for.
HOCKEY!!!!

[TheJet]

Is that you Manny? People can change, glad our son recognized some things we did not. I'm all for leaving it alone, I've just been trying to defend. Thx.

[DMom]

Most of the development is practice related, probably why some other country's don't play games until later years. Tournaments are there to go after and win - especially at the invite level - a big reason why teams are allowed to pick up "other" players?

The only reason for a team to 'pickup "other"players' is because someone is making money. Parents think that because a "team" wins they must have great coaching and haul their kids off to tryouts to get them some of that development. More traffic at tryouts means more teams, more teams mean more money for the people running the show. If they are not using their own players than the team didn't win did they? A couple of their players, plus some others, won. Parents, as people on here keep saying, do your homework.

Some day the parents that are on here feuding are going to be praying that johnny and jack are on the same team....seriously, time flies and that time is closer than you think.

[TheJet]

I'm with ya on that! I am not condoning just putting it out there that most invite teams are there to try and win it and will shorten the bench, pick up players, etc. etc..

[TGO]

[quote="DMom"][quote="TheJet"]Most of the development is practice related, probably why some other country's don't play games until later years. Tournaments are there to go after and win - especially at the invite level - a big reason why teams are allowed to pick up "other" players?[/quote]

The only reason for a team to 'pickup "other"players' is because someone is making money. Parents think that because a "team" wins they must have great coaching and haul their kids off to tryouts to get them some of that development. More traffic at tryouts means more teams, more teams mean more money for the people running the show. If they are not using their own players than the team didn't win did they? A couple of their players, plus some others, won. Parents, as people on here keep saying, do your homework.

Some day the parents that are on here feuding are going to be praying that johnny and jack are on the same team....seriously, time flies and that time is closer than you think.[/quote]

Not sure what the issue is but if there is a coach out there to stay away from don't you think its good that parents know this? Yes, time flies and its all dribble but parents pay a lot of money for hockey and should expect certain things. This Probably isn't the best place to come for references so Exnorthstar, just ask around, you will hear who is good and who isn't and who to stay away from. Glad Monopoly won 2000 level. Good to see!

[CoachS]

Don't kid yourself....let's make sure we are clear here. That was not the Monopoly team that won the 2000 level at Easton. That was a team called Monopoly that was filled with non-Monopoly players. This jumping from team to team stuff and constantly bringing kids in from outside the team simply to win a tournament is really kind of a joke. Filling a hole here and there when needed is one thing, but pick your team and stick with it.

[CoachS]

Additionally, I have sat on the sidelines and simply read this board for the past several weeks to get a feel for what is going on in the AAA world. Some good stuff by some people that are well informed and/or simply have fair opinions. But I would like to respond to the handful of Roddy bashers out there that clearly either have an ax to grind or had some kind of bad experience in the past.

Unlike many of you that prefer to hide behind your screen name, I will tell you that I am an Icemen parent. I have also coached at all levels of youth hockey since many of you were children. Point...I am not "new" to this hockey/coaching world. As a result, we took great care in making a decision about our son this year and where he would play and who he would play for. He skated with the Machine, Blades, Easton, and Icemen over the past 12 months as we evaluated this entire landscape.

After much discussion amongst ourselves, the coaches, etc. we chose Roddy and the Icemen last Janaury. We had heard the good and bad about each organization and each coach...Roddy included....I.E. we did not go in blind to anything in the PAST. And although I hate to burst the bubble of some of the posters here that seem to have some kind of agenda regarding the coach we selected, our experience to this point could not have been any better. I have been at 95% of the practices and watched a coach that works the kids hard, expects focus, pulls kids aside to talk to them when they repeat mistakes (my kid included!), lightens things up and has fun with the kids, pats a kid on the back when he executes a drill properly (especially if it takes some work to get there), etc., etc., etc. As a matter of fact, I asked my son in the car the other day if he has enjoyed playing for Roddy. His answer..."yep". I said, "but tell me WHY you have enjoyed it". He said, "well, he is tough on me when I make the same mistakes over and over again, he pats me on the back when I do something right, and he's fun". I said, "you just told me all I needed to hear."

So again, not to burst the bubble of those that periodically want to bash our coach on a forum that quite certainly was meant for something other than that, but our experience has been outstanding. And as "TheJet" posted a few days ago...funny, but that same coach that you are bashing is conducting clinics in September to help the boys get ready for association tryouts and almost every kid on that team is attending. Seems odd if he is everything you say he is....

[TGO]

Additionally, I have sat on the sidelines and simply read this board for the past several weeks to get a feel for what is going on in the AAA world. Some good stuff by some people that are well informed and/or simply have fair opinions. But I would like to respond to the handful of Roddy bashers out there that clearly either have an ax to grind or had some kind of bad experience in the past.

Unlike many of you that prefer to hide behind your screen name, I will tell you that I am an Icemen parent. I have also coached at all levels of youth hockey since many of you were children. Point...I am not "new" to this hockey/coaching world. As a result, we took great care in making a decision about our son this year and where he would play and who he would play for. He skated with the Machine, Blades, Easton, and Icemen over the past 12 months as we evaluated this entire landscape.

After much discussion amongst ourselves, the coaches, etc. we chose Roddy and the Icemen last Janaury. We had heard the good and bad about each organization and each coach...Roddy included....I.E. we did not go in blind to anything in the PAST. And although I hate to burst the bubble of some of the posters here that seem to have some kind of agenda regarding the coach we selected, our experience to this point could not have been any better. I have been at 95% of the practices and watched a coach that works the kids hard, expects focus, pulls kids aside to talk to them when they repeat mistakes (my kid included!), lightens things up and has fun with the kids, pats a kid on the back when he executes a drill properly (especially if it takes some work to get there), etc., etc., etc. As a matter of fact, I asked my son in the car the other day if he has enjoyed playing for Roddy. His answer..."yep". I said, "but tell me WHY you have enjoyed it". He said, "well, he is tough on me when I make the same mistakes over and over again, he pats me on the back when I do something right, and he's fun". I said, "you just told me all I needed to hear."

So again, not to burst the bubble of those that periodically want to bash our coach on a forum that quite certainly was meant for something other than that, but our experience has been outstanding. And as "TheJet" posted a few days ago...funny, but that same coach that you are bashing is conducting clinics in September to help the boys get ready for association tryouts and almost every kid on that team is attending. Seems odd if he is everything you say he is....

Cry me a river. I don't watch this forum as closely as you but I do talk to the community of coaches and parents and there is alot of things he has done that is ridiculous. Word of mouth is more effective than this stupid forum. As far as Monopoly, so what if they created a team to win? Grow up.

[CoachS]

Don't think I was crying clown....just stating the facts. Put the beer down and get a job.

[High Off The Glass]

Additionally, I have sat on the sidelines and simply read this board for the past several weeks to get a feel for what is going on in the AAA world. Some good stuff by some people that are well informed and/or simply have fair opinions. But I would like to respond to the handful of Roddy bashers out there that clearly either have an ax to grind or had some kind of bad experience in the past.

Unlike many of you that prefer to hide behind your screen name, I will tell you that I am an Icemen parent. I have also coached at all levels of youth hockey since many of you were children. Point...I am not "new" to this hockey/coaching world. As a result, we took great care in making a decision about our son this year and where he would play and who he would play for.

He skated with the Machine, Blades, Easton, and Icemen over the past 12 months as we evaluated this entire landscape.

After much discussion amongst ourselves, the coaches, etc. we chose Roddy and the Icemen last Janaury. We had heard the good and bad about each organization and each coach...Roddy included....I.E. we did not go in blind to anything in the PAST. And although I hate to burst the bubble of some of the posters here that seem to have some kind of agenda regarding the coach we selected, our experience to this point could not have been any better. I have been at 95% of the practices and watched a coach that works the kids hard, expects focus, pulls kids aside to talk to them when they repeat mistakes (my kid included!), lightens things up and has fun with the kids, pats a kid on the back when he executes a drill properly (especially if it takes some work to get there), etc., etc., etc. As a matter of fact, I asked my son in the car the other day if he has enjoyed playing for Roddy. His answer..."yep". I said, "but tell me WHY you have enjoyed it". He said, "well, he is tough on me when I make the same mistakes over and over again, he pats me on the back when I do something right, and he's fun". I said, "you just told me all I needed to hear."

So again, not to burst the bubble of those that periodically want to bash our coach on a forum that quite certainly was meant for something other than that, but our experience has been outstanding. And as "TheJet" posted a few days ago...funny, but that same coach that you are bashing is conducting clinics in September to help the boys get ready for association tryouts and almost every kid on that team is attending. Seems odd if he is everything you say he is....

In other words, your kid got cut from those better teams and you had no choice but play for Roddy.

[CoachS]

Nope. Actually he made the Machine practice squad which we were fine with at the time, made the Easton team and we declined, we chose not to pursue the Blades further, and my son ended up feeling most comfortable with the Icemen in the end. Was a good fit for him.

Anyway, wasn't interested in some major exchange about all this, just wanted to share our experiences to date. Do with the information what you please and keep in mind that my information is not "word of mouth from the hockey community or other coaches". It's from my own (and my son's) personal observations and experiences over many many practices and games. Likely a bit more credible than hearsay and a guy passing by at a Maple Grove practice or two.

[TGO]

Nope. Actually he made the Machine practice squad which we were fine with at the time, made the Easton team and we declined, we chose not to pursue the Blades further, and my son ended up feeling most comfortable with the Icemen in the end. Was a good fit for him.

Anyway, wasn't interested in some major exchange about all this, just wanted to share our experiences to date. Do with the information what you please and keep in mind that my information is not "word of mouth from the hockey community or other coaches". It's from my own (and my son's) personal observations and experiences over many many practices and games. Likely a bit more credible than hearsay and a guy passing by at a Maple Grove practice or two.

Your opinion is yours, I would gladly take hearsay from many many people over 2 or 3 guys on the forum.

[TheJet]

quote="TGO"]

Nope. Actually he made the Machine practice squad which we were fine with at the time, made the Easton team and we declined, we chose not to pursue the Blades further, and my son ended up feeling most comfortable with the Icemen in the end. Was a good fit for him.

Anyway, wasn't interested in some major exchange about all this, just wanted to share our experiences to date. Do with the information what you please and keep in mind that my information is not "word of mouth from the hockey community or other coaches". It's from my own (and my son's) personal observations and experiences over many many practices and games. Likely a bit more credible than hearsay and a guy passing by at a Maple Grove practice or two.

Your opinion is yours, I would gladly take hearsay from many many people over 2 or 3 guys on the forum.[/quote]


Hearsay over actual - that's smart - no idiodic!

[puckfan]

CoachS wrote:
Nope. Actually he made the Machine practice squad which we were fine with at the time, made the Easton team and we declined, we chose not to pursue the Blades further, and my son ended up feeling most comfortable with the Icemen in the end. Was a good fit for him.

Anyway, wasn't interested in some major exchange about all this, just wanted to share our experiences to date. Do with the information what you please and keep in mind that my information is not "word of mouth from the hockey community or other coaches". It's from my own (and my son's) personal observations and experiences over many many practices and games. Likely a bit more credible than hearsay and a guy passing by at a Maple Grove practice or two.


Your opinion is yours, I would gladly take hearsay from many many people over 2 or 3 guys on the forum.

TGO are you really this stupid? Your last comment is ridiculous, (REDiculous for those who actually get the joke) "I'll take hearsay"

Here you have a guy who basically is saying" My son is currently coached by this guy and my son and I don't have any issues with him, and in fact think he's a good coach"

It's easy to hide behind the screen name and bash a coach no matter if its this guy, the Easton guy. BM etc, these people should have the "PUCKS" to say, "I don't like him, he cut my kid or he didn't think my son was as good as I do........

[TGO]

CoachS wrote:
Nope. Actually he made the Machine practice squad which we were fine with at the time, made the Easton team and we declined, we chose not to pursue the Blades further, and my son ended up feeling most comfortable with the Icemen in the end. Was a good fit for him.

Anyway, wasn't interested in some major exchange about all this, just wanted to share our experiences to date. Do with the information what you please and keep in mind that my information is not "word of mouth from the hockey community or other coaches". It's from my own (and my son's) personal observations and experiences over many many practices and games. Likely a bit more credible than hearsay and a guy passing by at a Maple Grove practice or two.


Your opinion is yours, I would gladly take hearsay from many many people over 2 or 3 guys on the forum.

TGO are you really this stupid? Your last comment is ridiculous, (REDiculous for those who actually get the joke) "I'll take hearsay"

Here you have a guy who basically is saying" My son is currently coached by this guy and my son and I don't have any issues with him, and in fact think he's a good coach"

It's easy to hide behind the screen name and bash a coach no matter if its this guy, the Easton guy. BM etc, these people should have the "PUCKS" to say, "I don't like him, he cut my kid or he didn't think my son was as good as I do........

Not hiding behind any name, only what I've heard about him. Don't even play at 2000 level, just know kids who do. Defensive aren't we? Everyone is entitled to an opinion you have yours, others have theirs.