Best lines in the state

AV PUCK 17 · Post by **AV PUCK 17** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:06 am

I know I'm bias but to me the best line in the state is Hudson Fasching, AJ Michaelson and Michael Berens

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 11:47 am

I'd call that the 2/3rds best line maybe. In the same conference you've got Zajac, Merchant and Kucera. Lucia, Camaranisi, and Klien of Wayzata are better in my opinion. Minnetonka, EP, DE, HM, Edina, STA will all have very potent top lines. My intent is not to slight the third member at AV but he is not at the same level as the other two. I realize there is a lot of hype but just based on returning points you can find several others that were statisically better. Time will tell.

MHGr8ness · Post by **MHGr8ness** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:22 pm

The Greatness · Post by **The Greatness** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 3:31 pm

i agree. horn, steinhauser, and besse will be a top line in the state

HockeyMN1 · Post by **HockeyMN1** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:05 pm

Rau, Rath, Rath. Unstoppable.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Sun Nov 21, 2010 4:21 pm

Agree on BSM, right at the top...forgot about them.

scarlethockey33 · Post by **scarlethockey33** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:09 pm

Personally I like Wayzata's line of Lucia, Cameranesi and Klein to have a very good year

hockeyrocks · Post by **hockeyrocks** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 4:18 pm

Not sure which is the best but it has to be either the BSM or Wayzata line. Others may be very good, but highly unlikely any are better than these two. From a total scoring standpoint, it may come down to which team has a more high powered O-minded D.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:37 pm

If Edina plays Sit, Fogerty and Sampson together they will be part of the conversation.

BodyShots · Post by **BodyShots** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 7:44 pm

hockeyrocks wrote:Not sure which is the best but it has to be either the BSM or Wayzata line. Others may be very good, but highly unlikely any are better than these two. From a total scoring standpoint, it may come down to which team has a more high powered O-minded D.

Total scoring will come down to strength of schedule. You will be amazed to find some Class A lines with the most points at the end of the year. Not saying they are the best thou!

shakey · Post by **shakey** » Mon Nov 22, 2010 8:22 pm

BodyShots wrote:
hockeyrocks wrote:Not sure which is the best but it has to be either the BSM or Wayzata line. Others may be very good, but highly unlikely any are better than these two. From a total scoring standpoint, it may come down to which team has a more high powered O-minded D.
Total scoring will come down to strength of schedule. You will be amazed to find some Class A lines with the most points at the end of the year. Not saying they are the best thou!

Just keep on eye on Minnesota Hockey Hub's points leaders this season for proof of this!

UntouchableFlow · Post by **UntouchableFlow** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 1:56 am

If you're strictly looking at Class A, a combination of Schroeder, Krieger, and Reid. Not sure what Breck will muster up but they return Grant Opperman, Wesley Iverson, and Nate Traina who were all solid players last year. Strictly based off of points, Spring Lake Park brings back 109 points between Jorde Ranum and Nick Turbitt. Chisago Lakes also returns 87 points between Brett Lizotte and Andrew Habel, plus Corey Lushanko who missed a majority of the season last year.

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:36 am

UntouchableFlow wrote:If you're strictly looking at Class A, a combination of Schroeder, Krieger, and Reid. Not sure what Breck will muster up but they return Grant Opperman, Wesley Iverson, and Nate Traina who were all solid players last year. Strictly based off of points, Spring Lake Park brings back 109 points between Jorde Ranum and Nick Turbitt. Chisago Lakes also returns 87 points between Brett Lizotte and Andrew Habel, plus Corey Lushanko who missed a majority of the season last year.

Nate Traina will not be returning

no-fly-bys · Post by **no-fly-bys** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:14 pm

lines set already.. I think they might be still finding that out.

hockeyjunkie2 · Post by **hockeyjunkie2** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 4:59 pm

keepyourheadup wrote:I'd call that the 2/3rds best line maybe. In the same conference you've got Zajac, Merchant and Kucera. Lucia, Camaranisi, and Klien of Wayzata are better in my opinion. Minnetonka, EP, DE, HM, Edina, STA will all have very potent top lines. My intent is not to slight the third member at AV but he is not at the same level as the other two. I realize there is a lot of hype but just based on returning points you can find several others that were statisically better. Time will tell.

You're correct, I hope that he is not put with those two because chemistry wise he is not the type of player that fits best with those two. Valley may even need to split those two at some point those just in an attempt to try and have pure scoring lines if others don't produce early in the year if those two start off paired together. They start the schedule off with some tough ones though so we will see. You did hit it dead on though that it would be a downfall to that line.

AV PUCK 17 · Post by **AV PUCK 17** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 5:55 pm

You're correct, I hope that he is not put with those two because chemistry wise he is not the type of player that fits best with those two. Valley may even need to split those two at some point those just in an attempt to try and have pure scoring lines if others don't produce early in the year if those two start off paired together. They start the schedule off with some tough ones though so we will see. You did hit it dead on though that it would be a downfall to that line.[/quote]
Michaelson was hurt for a more than a third of the season, so you probably didn't see this line play because the lines were swapped during that period. Michael Berens is the next best pure scorer on the team behind AJ and Hudson and they had great chemistry.....

hockeyjunkie2 · Post by **hockeyjunkie2** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 7:05 pm

AV PUCK 17 wrote: Michaelson was hurt for a more than a third of the season, so you probably didn't see this line play because the lines were swapped during that period. Michael Berens is the next best pure scorer on the team behind AJ and Hudson and they had great chemistry.....

Saw the team play all year...no chemistry there, he couldnt keep up with there pace of the game and passing was between hudson and aj or berens tried to do to much himself. Also, he is not the next pure goal scorer because there isn't one...I hope someone proves me wrong on that and someone else steps up as one this year goes on but otherwise i will disagree with you.

AV PUCK 17 · Post by **AV PUCK 17** » Tue Nov 23, 2010 8:03 pm

hockeyjunkie2 wrote:
AV PUCK 17 wrote: Michaelson was hurt for a more than a third of the season, so you probably didn't see this line play because the lines were swapped during that period. Michael Berens is the next best pure scorer on the team behind AJ and Hudson and they had great chemistry.....
Saw the team play all year...no chemistry there, he couldnt keep up with there pace of the game and passing was between hudson and aj or berens tried to do to much himself. Also, he is not the next pure goal scorer because there isn't one...I hope someone proves me wrong on that and someone else steps up as one this year goes on but otherwise i will disagree with you.

i disagree with u completely but at least youre an AV fan

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 12:55 am

then Av is hurting for pure goal scorers.

AV PUCK 17 · Post by **AV PUCK 17** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:01 am

keepyourheadup wrote:then Av is hurting for pure goal scorers.

trust me, they're not...With Fischer gone I expect the senior forwards of Kris Goodman and Michael Berens to step up and put up a lot of points. Theyre both leaders and they both know how to score. And im not even including the whole junior class of goal scorers.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:03 am

AV puck 17 I love your passion for your team but I think we see things differently. I too have watched this team for years and they are very good. They are built around solid defense and good goal tending. Other than the two big guns no other player in this group has been an offensive dynamo. After Goodman and Berens I don't think they have a forward with more than 5 goals who is returning. When AV got on a run last year look at how many goals they were allowing....that's their game.

butterball5 · Post by **butterball5** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:28 am

Top line for BSM should be in the mix

old goalie85 · Post by **old goalie85** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:36 am

Top five line Kohls, Franklyn, Vantassel from Forest Lake.

Teak · Post by **Teak** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:42 am

Oh. I thought you wanted lines like: "Hey baby, wanna share my ice shack for some walleye fishing?"

Two top lines from up north might be:
Park Rapids - Coburn and Coburn (or did one graduate?)
Brainerd - Pohlkamp with anyone else

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:30 am

Old goalie you're much like AV puck 17, wonderfully passionate about your team but.....give your fellas another year before you through them out as top 5. Good now, they will be even better in a year, but no chance they are in the top 5 now. Kohl's showed flashes this fall in the elite league but for the most part struggled. As he grows into that big frame he'll develop into a very nice player.