2010 Cake Eaters Tournament

[D6 Girls Fan]

Edina certainly has cornered the market on top talent for this tournament - all the top teams at 14A and 12A for this coming weekend. Can anyone assess the B pool or the 10's?

Any predictions?

[centennialhockey]

I don't think you can even talk about the U10 level for this tournament. At this level, the girls are more interested in how their hair looks, swimming, and the concession stand than playing the actual game IMO.
Girls just want to have fun, let them

[InigoMontoya]

I don't think you can even talk about the U10 level for this tournament. At this level, the girls are more interested in how their hair looks, swimming, and the concession stand than playing the actual game IMO.
Girls just want to have fun, let them

Wow, with that attitude, why have them play the game at all? They should skate to center ice, have the ref declare the winner based on prettiest nail polish, then hold hands as they skate a couple laps. That'll give them time to concentrate on their home economics class and stop all that math and science nonsense.

[centennialhockey]

C'mon Iggy are you missing the big picture? Isn't it a little early to be worrying about the next U10 "SUPER" team that after 2 years is completely different at U12 because of how much girls can change. Let them have fun and enjoy the game. The goal of every Coach at this level should be the ability to make everyone of these girls want to return and play the next year because of all the fun they had. Is it really about wins and losses, or painting your nails with your friends and having a blast at a stay over tournament?

If you are like all those hyped up parents in the stands screaming at a U10 girls game, good luck to you and your daughter, you are probably the one who has their girl shooting pucks at the hotel too because she is so good and gets a hat-trick at U10. Just so Momma Bear and Pappa Bear can be PROUD as you walk around the tournament wearing her team sweatshirt

[InigoMontoya]

I don't think the girls on the 10U teams at this tournament are taking hockey any less seriously than their Squirt counterparts. I think a majority of the 10U coaches at this tournament are concerned with teaching the girls to skate, puckhandle, and understand the game, so they will increase their appreciation of and enjoyment of the game; painting nails is on the top of the list. I don't think the majority of parents going to this tournament signed their daughters up for hockey so they would have more opportunities to compare lip gloss. The girls playing in this 10U tournament are 4th and 5th graders, yes, but also athletes. But go ahead and lob your very first post up about how the girls are just concerned about their hair.

[hockeywild7]

Talk to alot prominent upper level coach's and the first thing they will tell you is we put way to much emphasis on winning in the younger age levels. U10 and U12 players for that matter are no where near their physical maturity when you can really begin to see the type of players they can be. Too many systems and not enough skills being taught to be able to run those systems correctly as they progress in my opinion. Cutting down to 2 lines is crazy at this age level.

[centennialhockey]

Well said Wild, I guess for Iggy it is all about Lord Stanley at U10. Good Luck with that.

[Hard water fan]

Wanting to do little girl things and winning a tournament aren't mutually exclusive. That's the beauty of youth girls hockey- they are competing at a high level while still keeping their femininity and doing the things that little girls do. Winning is more fun than losing- for all involved. Learning while working hard makes winning that much more sweeter...

PL

[centennialhockey]

I guess I am completely off base, it is all about winning. As long as you win everything is great. I thought you learn more from losing than winning? But I guess I am not a "nut job" obessed with winning. I am sure my daughter will grow up to be "nothing" because she was not a winner at U10

[InigoMontoya]

I never said it was about winning. I said it was about hockey - not about hair.

12 and 13 year old females are no where near their physical maturity? Really?

[royals dad]

My U10 is not allowed to wear make up yet (so no lip gloss talk), but she does still play with her American Girl doll when off the ice. You can be an athlete and a kid. I know she doesn't read this message board so will care less about what is written.

I wouldn't say winning isn't important but I would say rankings are completely irrelevant at U10. When the game is on the should all care about the outcome, that is an important lesson as much as play for fun is. Do your best, try your hardest, then afterward let it go win or lose.

These posts happen every time someone talks about ranking kids or teams under U12/PeeWee. Sometimes it is a really fired up parent who wants to talk about their kids team and sometimes just someone wanting a view to the future. Wouldn't take it too seriously either way but also wouldn't get to wrapped up in how young they are once the buckets go on they are hockey players.

[PainITB]

The cake eaters that are in charge of setting up the team pools are great at setting them up so the cake eaters play the weaker teams. I wonder why!!!! It all about getting the ratings hi so they look good?? I wonder how long they will get the top teams when they run the tournament like they do. When you have a top progrom like they do you think they would be up for a challange for the kids.

[Bighead]

Quit the whining about the pools and play some hockey. If you don't like the competition, play in a tournament where you get a few cupcakes! Plenty of teams are waiting to play if you decide to play elsewhere!

[FIRE*ON*ICE]

Quit the whining about the pools and play some hockey. If you don't like the competition, play in a tournament where you get a few cupcakes! Plenty of teams are waiting to play if you decide to play elsewhere!

Bighead, I think you read into Pains quote wrong...No whining just wondering why they don't mix it up better so everyone has better and more equal competition! I know my kid wants to play top teams. "Bring it on" (and I'm sure the cake will be Tasty!) [/quote]

[redarmydad]

I guess I am completely off base, it is all about winning. As long as you win everything is great. I thought you learn more from losing than winning? But I guess I am not a "nut job" obessed with winning. I am sure my daughter will grow up to be "nothing" because she was not a winner at U10

Please excuse this "Centennial" parent. I know the majority of the parents involved with our association actually have a clue about the game and the girls who play in it. I wonder CH if you have ever heard of girls who actually love to play this game. Or who want to be competitive. When my daughter started playing she was 4. After her second year, she started skating every chance she got, outdoor, indoor, it didn't matter. Her competitive drive was of her own creation, as is the case for several young girls who play this game. Those of us who actually have been around this game for a while, understand that. The only one who said winning was important was you. We know that these players want to win, not the parents, THE PLAYERS! If your child has more of an interest in applying make-up at the tender age of 8, 9 or 10, play B level and let those who want to compete worry about 10U A. IMHO of course.

[FIRE*ON*ICE]

I guess I am completely off base, it is all about winning. As long as you win everything is great. I thought you learn more from losing than winning? But I guess I am not a "nut job" obessed with winning. I am sure my daughter will grow up to be "nothing" because she was not a winner at U10

Please excuse this "Centennial" parent. I know the majority of the parents involved with our association actually have a clue about the game and the girls who play in it. I wonder CH if you have ever heard of girls who actually love to play this game. Or who want to be competitive. When my daughter started playing she was 4. After her second year, she started skating every chance she got, outdoor, indoor, it didn't matter. Her competitive drive was of her own creation, as is the case for several young girls who play this game. Those of us who actually have been around this game for a while, understand that. The only one who said winning was important was you. We know that these players want to win, not the parents, THE PLAYERS! If your child has more of an interest in applying make-up at the tender age of 8, 9 or 10, play B level and let those who want to compete worry about 10U A. IMHO of course.

Exactly redarmy!
* My daughter wants to look nice too...but usually AFTER the big game...It IS imortant to her to play hard an SHE LOVES WINNING! She
has also learned how to lose and be a good sport about it! (YES, even at 10U). She is 14U and I guarantee she wants to win STILL!~
*Centennial guy, I'm guessing you are one of those people who thinks EVERYONE deserves a medal? I heard Dance teams are alwys encouraging the very young girls to wear bright make up and nail polish...Or maybe like redarmy said, there are B teams for kids who may not be as competiive but still enjoy the sport.
Maybe that's the avenue to turn down because I'm sure there are plenty of girls on her team who DO want to win at the 10U level while still having FUN.
Go ahead then, call me a Nutball I guess!

[sinbin]

I think the Edina schedulers did a disservice to their 14A's and to hockey fans in general. #1 Edina in one pool and #2, #3, #4, #5 in the other pool. If my math is right, only 4% probability of that happening strictly by chance. A couple of years ago, my daughter was on the #1 team in the state for basically the entire season and we relished playing the top teams and (right or wrong) had a chip on our shoulders, daring any other team to beat us. Somehow that kept us going until the end. One tournment, we beat #2, #3, #4 and Canada's #1. That was fun. It was the road less traveled and it still would have been fun even if we lost one or more games. If you think you're the best, bring it on and play the best. If you lose, you find out what you need to work on.
Maybe they want to build confidence first? I don't know which answer is right or wrong, but I think the kids should settle it on the ice, not the schedule-maker attempting to do "a favor" for the home team. All the tournaments do it, of course, but from a fan's and player development perspective, let the best teams play each other and then let all the other teams congratulate the winner on a job well done.

[rinkrat11]

Last time i checked Sinbin, Edina has won quite a few State Championships on the girls side and NO Cake Eater Titles...I think their schedulers know what they are doing.

I think the Edina schedulers did a disservice to their 14A's and to hockey fans in general. #1 Edina in one pool and #2, #3, #4, #5 in the other pool. If my math is right, only 4% probability of that happening strictly by chance. A couple of years ago, my daughter was on the #1 team in the state for basically the entire season and we relished playing the top teams and (right or wrong) had a chip on our shoulders, daring any other team to beat us. Somehow that kept us going until the end. One tournment, we beat #2, #3, #4 and Canada's #1. That was fun. It was the road less traveled and it still would have been fun even if we lost one or more games. If you think you're the best, bring it on and play the best. If you lose, you find out what you need to work on.
Maybe they want to build confidence first? I don't know which answer is right or wrong, but I think the kids should settle it on the ice, not the schedule-maker attempting to do "a favor" for the home team. All the tournaments do it, of course, but from a fan's and player development perspective, let the best teams play each other and then let all the other teams congratulate the winner on a job well done.

[iceglo]

Live Cake Eater Classic results for all levels

[sinbin]

Thank for the props, Rinkrat. Maybe it is indeed the confidence thing, start slow, peak at season's end. That's the way I'd want to do it, peak at the right time, not too early. Maybe it's the fact that Thunder Bay's best team isn't allowed to play for the Minnesota state titles, but often (although not this year), plays the Cake Eater's. Let's not worry too much about this and just enjoy the early season hockey, no matter how the tournament schedules are orchestrated. The girls play the hands they're dealt, no matter how the deck is stacked. Let's have fun with it, folks.

[rinkrat11]

I agree Sinbin and you have some valid points. Thanks for the good banter back and forth!!

Thank for the props, Rinkrat. Maybe it is indeed the confidence thing, start slow, peak at season's end. That's the way I'd want to do it, peak at the right time, not too early. Maybe it's the fact that Thunder Bay's best team isn't allowed to play for the Minnesota state titles, but often (although not this year), plays the Cake Eater's. Let's not worry too much about this and just enjoy the early season hockey, no matter how the tournament schedules are orchestrated. The girls play the hands they're dealt, no matter how the deck is stacked. Let's have fun with it, folks.

[u12dad]

U12A-Wayzata proved they were the best team in the tournament beating Centennial 1-0 in Championship. Edina beat Minnetonka for third, 3-1.

The brackets were very evenly matched for the most part, no teams won all of their games. One game was 6 goal diff, 17 of the 22 games were 3 goals or less.

Results:

Pool A

Wayzata 3-0-1, Tied Edina
Edina 2-0-2, Tied Wayzata , Stillwater
Stillwater 2-1-1, Lost to Wayzata 4-0, tied Edina
OMG 1-3, beat REV
REV 0-4

Pool B

Centennial 3-0-1, tied Minnetonka
Minnetonka, 2-1-1, lost to Lakeville, tied Centennial
EP 2-2-0, lost to Centennial, Minnetonka
LV 1-2-1, lost to EP, Centennial, tied Thunderbay
Thunderbay 0-3-1, tied LV (all 98 and 99 girls, small but worked hard)

[sinbin]

Thanks, RRat, I was just trying to steer the conversation away from makeup and hair, items of which I (a) know very little about and (b) have very little of. No matter how the Cake Eater's shakes out, Edina and several other of the teams at this tournament will be in the mix of things at season's end. I would have liked to watch the Edina/Wayzata 14UA championship game. 2-0 score, closer than the score indicated or about right on?

[rinkrat11]

It was a pretty good game Sinbin but Wayzata played better and deserved the win. You were right about the pools. I caught a glimpse of the other bracket and there was some great pool games.

Thanks, RRat, I was just trying to steer the conversation away from makeup and hair, items of which I (a) know very little about and (b) have very little of. No matter how the Cake Eater's shakes out, Edina and several other of the teams at this tournament will be in the mix of things at season's end. I would have liked to watch the Edina/Wayzata 14UA championship game. 2-0 score, closer than the score indicated or about right on?