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Duluth East at Cloquet, Thurs 12/16/10

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DE (4-1, #5) travels to Cloquet (4-2) to resume NE MN's premier rivalry on Thursday. East has won 4 straight in the series, but Cloquet seems to be on the road back to respectability this year after two very poor seasons, and in this rivalry nothing is ever assured.

This game has the added plot line of Cloquet senior forward Nolan Meyer taking on his former team for the first time.

Game is at 7:30 at the CARC.
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Well Its way to tough to try to guess whos gonna win this game.. East could be the #1 team in the country , and CEC could rival sleepy eye, but the game will still "usually" be Physical, and close

I miss the East CEC rivalry from back in the day when the fights and testosterone were overflowing over the boards.. With in the past few yrs, its tamed down a bit

Gotta go with East tho, They look way to good this yr

One thing that does make me wonder about East is this..

In previous yrs East would Dominate shots, and outshoot almost any team they play, but not score much... Now they are getting less shots ( especially against better teams ) But scoring quite a bit more

Also the defense seems good, but not as solid as its been in the past .. True?
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Re: Duluth East at Cloquet, Thurs 12/16/10

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karl(east) wrote:DE (4-1, #5) travels to Cloquet (4-2) to resume NE MN's premier rivalry on Thursday. East has won 4 straight in the series, but Cloquet seems to be on the road back to respectability this year after two very poor seasons, and in this rivalry nothing is ever assured.

This game has the added plot line of Cloquet senior forward Nolan Meyer taking on his former team for the first time.

Game is at 7:30 at the CARC.
Wouldnt surprise me if he was a mark
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mj79 wrote:Well Its way to tough to try to guess whos gonna win this game.. East could be the #1 team in the country , and CEC could rival sleepy eye, but the game will still "usually" be Physical, and close

I miss the East CEC rivalry from back in the day when the fights and testosterone were overflowing over the boards.. With in the past few yrs, its tamed down a bit

Gotta go with East tho, They look way to good this yr

One thing that does make me wonder about East is this..

In previous yrs East would Dominate shots, and outshoot almost any team they play, but not score much... Now they are getting less shots ( especially against better teams ) But scoring quite a bit more

Also the defense seems good, but not as solid as its been in the past .. True?
I think the Meyer situation has the potential to get some testosterone going...

The defense is very young (only 1 senior and 1 other returning regular), but it has potential. Their inexperience might be part of why we're seeing more shots for the opposition in the early going. That's just a guess, though; Thursday will be the first time I see the Hounds in person this year.

More info to chew on: Not including playoffs, East is 4-2 at home against Cloquet in the past 6 years, while 2-3-1 at Cloquet. And even those two wins, which came in the past two years, are closer than one might expect--East beat Cloquet 6-1 and 7-0 at home those two years, but the scores were 4-2 and 4-3 at the CARC.
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mj79 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:DE (4-1, #5) travels to Cloquet (4-2) to resume NE MN's premier rivalry on Thursday. East has won 4 straight in the series, but Cloquet seems to be on the road back to respectability this year after two very poor seasons, and in this rivalry nothing is ever assured.

This game has the added plot line of Cloquet senior forward Nolan Meyer taking on his former team for the first time.

Game is at 7:30 at the CARC.
Wouldnt surprise me if he was a mark
Meyer became a nonentity when he decided life might not be fair at DE, so he picked up his sticks and moved in with a relative in Cloquet. I know he is still friends with the DE kids, but they will be far from obsessed with him on the ice. He has 10 goals this year but half of them were in the Cambridge game and the others against Princeton and Proctor. On a positive note it seems he hasn't spent much time in the penalty box this year.

Nice kid that played way too much hockey and peaked too early.
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East wins by at least 3 in this matchup.
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mj79 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:DE (4-1, #5) travels to Cloquet (4-2) to resume NE MN's premier rivalry on Thursday. East has won 4 straight in the series, but Cloquet seems to be on the road back to respectability this year after two very poor seasons, and in this rivalry nothing is ever assured.

This game has the added plot line of Cloquet senior forward Nolan Meyer taking on his former team for the first time.

Game is at 7:30 at the CARC.
Wouldnt surprise me if he was a mark
Well, if he is that will help CEC. IMO, they need the game to get physical with no flow.
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wild77 wrote:
mj79 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:DE (4-1, #5) travels to Cloquet (4-2) to resume NE MN's premier rivalry on Thursday. East has won 4 straight in the series, but Cloquet seems to be on the road back to respectability this year after two very poor seasons, and in this rivalry nothing is ever assured.

This game has the added plot line of Cloquet senior forward Nolan Meyer taking on his former team for the first time.

Game is at 7:30 at the CARC.
Wouldnt surprise me if he was a mark
Well, if he is that will help CEC. IMO, they need the game to get physical with no flow.
East PK has worried me.. Their #s are descent , but they look shaky to me.. Especially in a game like this with such a huge rivalry, anything can go
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karl(east) wrote:
mj79 wrote:Well Its way to tough to try to guess whos gonna win this game.. East could be the #1 team in the country , and CEC could rival sleepy eye, but the game will still "usually" be Physical, and close

I miss the East CEC rivalry from back in the day when the fights and testosterone were overflowing over the boards.. With in the past few yrs, its tamed down a bit

Gotta go with East tho, They look way to good this yr

One thing that does make me wonder about East is this..

In previous yrs East would Dominate shots, and outshoot almost any team they play, but not score much... Now they are getting less shots ( especially against better teams ) But scoring quite a bit more

Also the defense seems good, but not as solid as its been in the past .. True?
I think the Meyer situation has the potential to get some testosterone going...

The defense is very young (only 1 senior and 1 other returning regular), but it has potential. Their inexperience might be part of why we're seeing more shots for the opposition in the early going. That's just a guess, though; Thursday will be the first time I see the Hounds in person this year.

More info to chew on: Not including playoffs, East is 4-2 at home against Cloquet in the past 6 years, while 2-3-1 at Cloquet. And even those two wins, which came in the past two years, are closer than one might expect--East beat Cloquet 6-1 and 7-0 at home those two years, but the scores were 4-2 and 4-3 at the CARC.
Yea but with all respect to both teams.. When the games were close, CEC was actually good, and East was , subpar ( if you can even call east that ) .. Not making excuses at all , but they were much more evenly matched..

CEC looks descent this yr tho.. I wish I could make it down to the CARC tomorrow, but Ill be driving home .. Is it on the radio? Otherwise Im sure that will be the hottest thread on here tomorrow
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Re: Duluth East at Cloquet, Thurs 12/16/10

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dlhhockey wrote:
mj79 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:DE (4-1, #5) travels to Cloquet (4-2) to resume NE MN's premier rivalry on Thursday. East has won 4 straight in the series, but Cloquet seems to be on the road back to respectability this year after two very poor seasons, and in this rivalry nothing is ever assured.

This game has the added plot line of Cloquet senior forward Nolan Meyer taking on his former team for the first time.

Game is at 7:30 at the CARC.
Wouldnt surprise me if he was a mark
Meyer became a nonentity when he decided life might not be fair at DE, so he picked up his sticks and moved in with a relative in Cloquet. I know he is still friends with the DE kids, but they will be far from obsessed with him on the ice. He has 10 goals this year but half of them were in the Cambridge game and the others against Princeton and Proctor. On a positive note it seems he hasn't spent much time in the penalty box this year.

Nice kid that played way too much hockey and peaked too early.
not fair as in he wasnt 1st line? or something else more personal..?

I did notice he was the leading scorer on CEC.. No surprise tho, really

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mj79 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
mj79 wrote:Well Its way to tough to try to guess whos gonna win this game.. East could be the #1 team in the country , and CEC could rival sleepy eye, but the game will still "usually" be Physical, and close

I miss the East CEC rivalry from back in the day when the fights and testosterone were overflowing over the boards.. With in the past few yrs, its tamed down a bit

Gotta go with East tho, They look way to good this yr

One thing that does make me wonder about East is this..

In previous yrs East would Dominate shots, and outshoot almost any team they play, but not score much... Now they are getting less shots ( especially against better teams ) But scoring quite a bit more

Also the defense seems good, but not as solid as its been in the past .. True?
I think the Meyer situation has the potential to get some testosterone going...

The defense is very young (only 1 senior and 1 other returning regular), but it has potential. Their inexperience might be part of why we're seeing more shots for the opposition in the early going. That's just a guess, though; Thursday will be the first time I see the Hounds in person this year.

More info to chew on: Not including playoffs, East is 4-2 at home against Cloquet in the past 6 years, while 2-3-1 at Cloquet. And even those two wins, which came in the past two years, are closer than one might expect--East beat Cloquet 6-1 and 7-0 at home those two years, but the scores were 4-2 and 4-3 at the CARC.
Yea but with all respect to both teams.. When the games were close, CEC was actually good, and East was , subpar ( if you can even call east that ) .. Not making excuses at all , but they were much more evenly matched..

CEC looks descent this yr tho.. I wish I could make it down to the CARC tomorrow, but Ill be driving home .. Is it on the radio? Otherwise Im sure that will be the hottest thread on here tomorrow
It's on AM 560.
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Meyer became a nonentity when he decided life might not be fair at DE, so he picked up his sticks and moved in with a relative in Cloquet.



How is he allowed to play if he is a senior moving into an area? What happened to needing to be a ninth grader or sitting out a year? Seem a little fishy.
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Any updates on the game?
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PHN says East 4 Cloquet 0. Can't say this is suprising. Looks like the days of Cloquet competing with East are long gone.
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Final: East 4, Cloquet 0

Hounds took a 3-0 lead in the first period and it was somewhat sloppy from there on. Randolph clanked at least two off the pipe.

No power play goals for East, but Trevor Olson scored two short-handed goals which took the life out of the Lumberjacks. Well, not all their life, they still had enough for (surprise!) a little scrum at the end of the game. Meyer (another surprise!) was on the ice when this happened.

Good win for East but the margin should have been larger.

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east hockey wrote:Final: East 4, Cloquet 0

Hounds took a 3-0 lead in the first period and it was somewhat sloppy from there on. Randolph clanked at least two off the pipe.

No power play goals for East, but Trevor Olson scored two short-handed goals which took the life out of the Lumberjacks. Well, not all their life, they still had enough for (surprise!) a little scrum at the end of the game. Meyer (another surprise!) was on the ice when this happened.

Good win for East but the margin should have been larger.

Lee
who won the fight?
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mj79 wrote:
east hockey wrote:Final: East 4, Cloquet 0

Hounds took a 3-0 lead in the first period and it was somewhat sloppy from there on. Randolph clanked at least two off the pipe.

No power play goals for East, but Trevor Olson scored two short-handed goals which took the life out of the Lumberjacks. Well, not all their life, they still had enough for (surprise!) a little scrum at the end of the game. Meyer (another surprise!) was on the ice when this happened.

Good win for East but the margin should have been larger.

Lee
who won the fight?
Who cares. DE won the game in dominating fashion.
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Lee covered the game pretty well. Cloquet had a nice PP going when they were down by 1 in the 1st, but then East sprung Olson for his first shorty and that pretty much ended it. East was on cruise control through the 2nd and 3rd periods. East rolled 3 pretty good-looking lines all night; Cloquet doesn't have much beyond Meyer and McFarlane.

We had to wait until the end for the much-anticipated scrum involving Meyer. East threw an extra little celebration in front of their goal after the fight, which probably won't be forgotten when these two teams meet in Duluth in February.

It was a nice win, and worth the trip--certainly the easiest East has had in Cloquet in my memory--but East is capable of more. And based on the result coming out of Edina tonight, they may need to give more--Rapids is definitely a legitimate contender for the section and a top team in the state.
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karl(east) wrote:Lee covered the game pretty well. Cloquet had a nice PP going when they were down by 1 in the 1st, but then East sprung Olson for his first shorty and that pretty much ended it. East was on cruise control through the 2nd and 3rd periods. East rolled 3 pretty good-looking lines all night; Cloquet doesn't have much beyond Meyer and McFarlane.

We had to wait until the end for the much-anticipated scrum involving Meyer. East threw an extra little celebration in front of their goal after the fight, which probably won't be forgotten when these two teams meet in Duluth in February.

It was a nice win, and worth the trip--certainly the easiest East has had in Cloquet in my memory--but East is capable of more. And based on the result coming out of Edina tonight, they may need to give more--Rapids is definitely a legitimate contender for the section and a top team in the state.
cant wait for that game
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karl(east) wrote:Cloquet doesn't have much beyond Meyer and McFarlane.
What do you think of the Freshman #20 Karson Kuhlman? I haven't seen a Freshman as delightful to watch for Cloquet in years. Look for him to have a very bright future...
Cloquet simply didn't come to play the first period. I thought that Cloquet seemed afraid to make that backdoor pass the Hounds are so good at making. It may be the defensive coaching style of Esse or selfishness but that needs to change. I can recall two or three times the first line for Cloquet had a tap in back door, but the player decided to shoot it rather than dish it to a teammate for the easy finish. As for East I thought they showed tremendous depth. Every line is a scoring threat. One of the deepest East teams I've seen in awhile. Their power play looks great, they move the puck well and no one on their team seems selfish. East is also phenomenal at crashing the net. Miers Moore is one of the better Sophomore defenseman I have seen in awhile. East is definitely the better team this year, but Cloquet will be a very strong team in the next couple of years (I just really hope Esse knows what to do with all the talent he will have). Can't wait for round 2. Cloquet should be much improved with all the youth on their squad and same goes for East.
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BigWorm wrote:
karl(east) wrote:Cloquet doesn't have much beyond Meyer and McFarlane.
What do you think of the Freshman #20 Karson Kuhlman? I haven't seen a Freshman as delightful to watch for Cloquet in years. Look for him to have a very bright future...
Cloquet simply didn't come to play the first period. I thought that Cloquet seemed afraid to make that backdoor pass the Hounds are so good at making. It may be the defensive coaching style of Esse or selfishness but that needs to change. I can recall two or three times the first line for Cloquet had a tap in back door, but the player decided to shoot it rather than dish it to a teammate for the easy finish. As for East I thought they showed tremendous depth. Every line is a scoring threat. One of the deepest East teams I've seen in awhile. Their power play looks great, they move the puck well and no one on their team seems selfish. East is also phenomenal at crashing the net. Miers Moore is one of the better Sophomore defenseman I have seen in awhile. East is definitely the better team this year, but Cloquet will be a very strong team in the next couple of years (I just really hope Esse knows what to do with all the talent he will have). Can't wait for round 2. Cloquet should be much improved with all the youth on their squad and same goes for East.
Kuhlman didn't jump out at me last night, but at least he held his own as a freshman--if he develops well, he'll be great in the next few years. Cloquet clearly has some work to do, but they are also pretty young, and knowing Esse's track record, they'll cause someone a lot of problems in the future, whether it's later this year or sometime in the next 2 years.

The score may not have reflected it, but this Cloquet team is better than last year's. (East is better too, of course.) It's great to see the northern powers rising again in 7AA.
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karl(east) wrote:
BigWorm wrote:
karl(east) wrote:Cloquet doesn't have much beyond Meyer and McFarlane.
What do you think of the Freshman #20 Karson Kuhlman? I haven't seen a Freshman as delightful to watch for Cloquet in years. Look for him to have a very bright future...
Cloquet simply didn't come to play the first period. I thought that Cloquet seemed afraid to make that backdoor pass the Hounds are so good at making. It may be the defensive coaching style of Esse or selfishness but that needs to change. I can recall two or three times the first line for Cloquet had a tap in back door, but the player decided to shoot it rather than dish it to a teammate for the easy finish. As for East I thought they showed tremendous depth. Every line is a scoring threat. One of the deepest East teams I've seen in awhile. Their power play looks great, they move the puck well and no one on their team seems selfish. East is also phenomenal at crashing the net. Miers Moore is one of the better Sophomore defenseman I have seen in awhile. East is definitely the better team this year, but Cloquet will be a very strong team in the next couple of years (I just really hope Esse knows what to do with all the talent he will have). Can't wait for round 2. Cloquet should be much improved with all the youth on their squad and same goes for East.
Kuhlman didn't jump out at me last night, but at least he held his own as a freshman--if he develops well, he'll be great in the next few years. Cloquet clearly has some work to do, but they are also pretty young, and knowing Esse's track record, they'll cause someone a lot of problems in the future, whether it's later this year or sometime in the next 2 years.

The score may not have reflected it, but this Cloquet team is better than last year's. (East is better too, of course.) It's great to see the northern powers rising again in 7AA.
That's pretty clear seeing as to how rapids is playing this year
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