Section 1A 2010-2011

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scarlethockey33
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Post by scarlethockey33 »

Pretty good ranking, Scarlet. Honestly, I think you can put Lourdes as the clear cut favorite, then you can put Albert Lea, Northfield, New Prague, Faribault, Mankato West, and Red Wing in a hat and have just as much luck seeding them as the coaches will come February. I think any one of the teams that will end up with the 2-7 seeds could come out of this section as I think they are all capable of beating Lourdes on any given night.
Oh, I completely agree the difference between Lourdes and everyone else in the section is quite a large margin as of right now. If Lourdes lost the Red Wing game by 2 goals, I think we have to consider the margin between Lourdes and the rest of the Section is much closer than most realize

It's going to take a lot for Lourdes to go down from #1 until they lose a considerable amount of games or a game vs. a section team, you have to consider them the undeniable favorite.
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Post by hockeydad »

Scarlet... excellent job. You seem to have good insight into the teams in the section. However, you forgot that this section has 12 teams The Le Sueur-Henderson/St. Peter/Montgomery-Lonsdale/Le Center Bulldogs are also in this section. I know they would probably be near the bottom, but hey, don't forget the 'Dogs.
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Post by scarlethockey33 »

Scarlet... excellent job. You seem to have good insight into the teams in the section. However, you forgot that this section has 12 teams The Le Sueur-Henderson/St. Peter/Montgomery-Lonsdale/Le Center Bulldogs are also in this section. I know they would probably be near the bottom, but hey, don't forget the 'Dogs.
I knew i forgot someone, 11 teams didn't seem right! my apologies, to anyone that it may concern:

Bottom Five
8. La Crescent
9. Wascea
10. LSH/P
11. Austin
12. Mankato East

New coaching system with the Bulldogs this season with Carlson taking over the reins. Won over Mankato East in 4-0 fashion. Plays some competition mainly in section 3A like Litchfield, New Ulm and Sleepy Eye. From what I remember the Bulldogs have a bright spot in goalie with Amsden (sophomore). They will depend on him to provide a solid back for the Dogs'.
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Post by Black Ice »

scarlethockey33 wrote:Early Season Section Rankings

1. Lourdes, Independent 6-0

Undoubtedly the number one, in the section thus far, yet to record a lost, even though I thought they were going to lose to STA, but the game was postponed due to weather. Has a strong schedule that will definitely get them section ready with games vs. Breck and STA. Also plays a good number of Section 1A teams, which will give us a clearer view for the future.

The same guys doing it for Lourdes this year with a great goalie in Heimer (.903 SV% and 1.95 GAA) who is arguably the best goalie in the section, but he's getting the the goal support from Funk and Samuleson along with strong defense led by defensemen Rory Vessel.

Had a scare in the Red Wing game, and certainly Spaniol is gonna remind them that in this section there are no easy games.

Last Game: 4-0 Win vs. Chanhassen
Next Three Games: St. Cloud Cathedral Dec. 18, Northfield Dec. 21, Holy Family Dec. 23

2. Albert Lea, Big 9 4-1

How do you start a talk about Albert Lea without mentioning Roy Nystrom? He's a great coach, and a man whose been with the game long enough to understand how to utilize the players he has to become competitive and win games. AL plays a schedule rich of Big 9 teams, but has the nonconference games vs. some top teams like Hibbing and Virginia/MIB.

Albert Lea has a good set of players with Carlson, who maybe one of the best players in the section along with Hacker and Stolt. Goaltending has been an issue for Albert Lea, after splitting the first five games, it seems like Wangen's game with New Prague may be enough to win him the starting job.

Wins over Northfield and New Prague, were big wins in terms of their ranking. Nystrom's teams' typically seem to get better as the season continues to get closer to section time.

Last Game: 2-1 Win vs. New Prague
Next Three Games: Winona Dec. 16, Austin Dec. 21, Richfield Dec. 28

3. Mankato West, Big 9 4-2

One of the highest scoring teams in the Section so far with an average of 6 goals per game. Mainly a Big 9 Schedule for the Scarlets, but with the addition of games vs. Fergus Falls, St. Francis and Shakopee, and section opponents also including Lourdes and Northfield.

The Scarlets are led by the top scorer in the state Rantanen along with Weber and Frentz. On defense, the Scarlets are young with sophomore Bigham and freshmen Mckissick leading the blue line. Goalie Kaufman has been able to play well enough to put the Scarlets in position to win every game.

Early OT lost (4-5) vs. a declining New Prague team is starting to look like an after thought. The win vs. Faribault (6-3) was huge, but the next game vs. Marshall (1-2 L), a team with less skill than the Scarlets may have lowered their ranking. I think the lesson needed to be learned for the Scarlets is that "Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard."

Last Game: 1-2 Lost vs. Marshall
Next Three Games: JM Dec. 16, Mankato East Dec. 18, Fergus Falls Dec. 28

4. Faribault, Big 9 2-2
A slow start for a Faribault team expected to compete in the section this year. The Falcons schedule includes some top ranked teams such as games vs. Breck, Warroad and Orono also along with the regular Big 9 schedule.

The Falcons are led by their senior Lipinski, who indivdually is one of the top players in the section along with Helgeson, and watching over the blue line is Brandon Teske. They have some depth on the scoring including a total of nine players with goals this season. Goaltending issues has plagued the Falcons, and the lack of having Forgaard is starting to make holes in this team.

Losing to a growing Providence Academy team (6-0) and Mankato West (6-3). No eye popping wins yet this season vs. Northfield (4-2) and Dodge County (5-3).

Last Game: 6-3 Lost vs. Mankato West
Next Three Games: Owatonna Dec. 16, Mound-Westonka Dec. 18, New Prague Dec. 21

5. Northfield, Missota 1-2

Northfield is seemingly always in the middle of the talk for the Section. Plays an average schedule staying with many Missota games, and many other games with games vs. section teams.

Return some good offense with Andrew Scofield being amongst the top of them all. Their top goal scorer is Vogel with 5 goals. Docken is probably one of their top defensemen. Goaltending is still too early to call for who is going to start. The Raiders have split between Finger and Tjaden, and with Tjaden's first start he's shown the better numbers so far.

Still really early to call for Northfield because they've only played three games after all. Big win over Holy Family Catholic which was getting some consideration to be a top team, but early losses to Albert Lea and Faribault were big hits in terms of their ranking, but again it's still too early to say for the Raiders.

Last Game: 4-3 Win vs. Holy Family Catholic
Next Three Games: Red Wing Dec. 16, Lourdes Dec. 21, Bloomington Kennedy Dec. 23

6. Red Wing, Missota 0-4

Despite Red Wing's winless record, the Wingers plays one of the hardest schedules, if not the hardest schedule in the whole section. They have a stock full of games vs. possible top teams like Breck, Hermantown, Lourdes, South St. Paul, Orono, Totino Grace, Holy Angels and Mahtomedi.

Not much to say about the Wingers, they are showing some depth with seven total goal scorers so far this season. Goalie Amendolar has had a rough time especially after losing to Breck 7-0.

I don't know what to take out of the Lourdes game, does playing the Lourdes close and eventually bring them to OT only to lose it put them higher or does the fact that the Wingers lose a two goal lead with 30 seconds left drop them down? Regardless the Wingers will be interesting to watch because of their challenging schedule.

Last Game: 5-6 Lost vs. Lourdes
Next Three Games: Northfield Dec. 16, Orono Dec. 18, Totino Grace Dec. 21

7. New Prague, Missota 1-4

New Prague's schedule is mainly games vs. Missota opponents along with games vs. the section. The only non-conference, non-section notable games Hermantown and Duluth Central.

Brezina is rising as their top goal scorer (5). Zach Adams is a solid defensemen for New Prague despite his lack of point production and Joe Morris is having a slow start after showing a glimpse of being a great goalie late last season.

Showed some promise with an opening OT win over Mankato West (5-4). But since the Trojans have declined losing vs. the top team in 3A New Ulm (7-5), Lourdes (3-1), Holy Family (6-2) and Albert Lea (2-1).

Last Game: 1-2 Lost vs. Albert Lea
Next Three Games: Chaska Dec. 17, Faribault Dec. 21, Duluth Central Dec. 28

Bottom Four
8. La Crescent
9. Wascea
10. Austin
11. Mankato East

Most of the top seven tops will likely beat any of the bottom four. La Crescent seems interesting although its hard to know where to place them with the teams they play. Good win vs. Winona early on I expect a good season out of the Lancers.

Wascea, East and Austin are going to have the troubles that they've always had being at the bottom. My logic for their places, Wascea beat East with the shutout. Austin beat East 6-4. Their problem is mainly the lack the speed and talent of any of the top teams.


Give some input, I know there's going to be some other opinions about the rankings, but above all I think it's important to note that it's still extremely early in the season and these rankings are going to fluctuate as they always do in Section 1A.
You mean over the last 4 seasons. In 2006 Austin was a #1 seed and played #4 seed East in the semi-finals, with East later advancing to state.
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Post by scarlethockey33 »

You mean over the last 4 seasons. In 2006 Austin was a #1 seed and played #4 seed East in the semi-finals, with East later advancing to state.
thanks for the history lesson, i still have a section championship shirt from that cougar team :D

I see the confusion in my words now that I read it over, I meant to say that they have the same troubles they've always had, as being apart of being at the bottom, mainly because lack of speed and talent of any of the top teams..
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Post by Jim9000 »

Looks pretty accurate scarlet...very well done... I don't know much about the bottom 5 either....couple of new coaches in that group...looks like some of them play each other...so it should all pan out for them in the end.

Any section games today of note, have not had time to check things over.

tons of games I guess- (predictions)

RW at Northfield (RW)
Faribo at Owatonna (Owatonna)
Albert Lea at Winona (AL)
Man East at Mayo (Mayo)
New Ulm at Waseca (NU)
Austin at Dodge County (Austin)
LaCrosse at LaCresent (LaCresent)
JM at Mankato West (West)

am I missing any?
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Post by toybox30 »

Forgaard will not becoming back to the falcons. He moved out east to play golf. He will not be return anytime soon. Looks to be the down fall of the falcons missing Forgaard in the big games.
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Post by scarlethockey33 »

Forgaard will not becoming back to the falcons. He moved out east to play golf. He will not be return anytime soon. Looks to be the down fall of the falcons missing Forgaard in the big games.
interesting statement, as west was at faribault last week, i personally saw forgaard walking around in the lobby of the rink

Both Mankato games are postponed
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Post by toybox30 »

scarlethockey33 wrote:
Forgaard will not becoming back to the falcons. He moved out east to play golf. He will not be return anytime soon. Looks to be the down fall of the falcons missing Forgaard in the big games.
interesting statement, as west was at faribault last week, i personally saw forgaard walking around in the lobby of the rink

Both Mankato games are postponed
I find that an interesting statement if you personally saw forgaard why was he not playing. That is because he moved away out of state. Faribault would be stupid for the not to be playing Forgaard.
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Post by scarlethockey33 »

I find that an interesting statement if you personally saw forgaard why was he not playing. That is because he moved away out of state. Faribault would be stupid for the not to be playing Forgaard.

At first I assumed disciplinary reasons, but then again the case where he moved out of state for golf seems extremely more logical, because he's not even on the Faribault roster, which leaves me concluding that he won't be playing for the Falcons this season,

he could've easily still be in Faribault spending time at the rink before he leaves?
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Post by Black Ice »

scarlethockey33 wrote:
You mean over the last 4 seasons. In 2006 Austin was a #1 seed and played #4 seed East in the semi-finals, with East later advancing to state.
thanks for the history lesson, i still have a section championship shirt from that cougar team :D

I see the confusion in my words now that I read it over, I meant to say that they have the same troubles they've always had, as being apart of being at the bottom, mainly because lack of speed and talent of any of the top teams..
Your premise is correct, that teams at the bottom generally have those same traits in common. The way you stated it though, by listing specific teams then saying they've always, gives the impression that those particular teams are perrenial doormats, which isn't true.
Austin had some very strong teams in the 1999 - 2003 stretch, with the high point being a trip to state in 2001. Their last good team was the 2006 squad. East had winning teams in a stretch from 2001-2006 ending with that state trip in '06.
Winning goes in cycles for alot teams. Even teams like Luverne and Sleepy Eye had decent teams if you go back far enough. Hey, Sleepy Eye already has 2 wins this year which equals 25% of their total wins over the previous 8 seasons.
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Post by cheese »

i heard that forgaard was suspended for 12 games a week before the season for disciplinary reasons, as were other members of the faribault team, which may explain their early struggles. dont know the details, but doesnt sound like ryan is putting up with the kids bad behavior outside of the rink and classroom.
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Post by 4AAhockeystud »

cheese wrote:i heard that forgaard was suspended for 12 games a week before the season for disciplinary reasons, as were other members of the faribault team, which may explain their early struggles. dont know the details, but doesnt sound like ryan is putting up with the kids bad behavior outside of the rink and classroom.
7 games i guess he should be back next week according to how many games hes missed already and what he will miss next week.
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Post by PoNd HocKey ChAmP67 »

i saw no one has posted the scores from the end of this week..

Thursday

Northfield 4 Red Wing 1
A big section win for Northfield, Red Wing still lookin for their first win

Lacrescent 2 La Crosse 2

Austin 3 Dodge County 7
Austin actually had a 3-2 lead after the first period of play

Friday

New Prague 5 Chaska 4
New Prague starts conference play with a win

Albert Lea 3 Winona 2 (OT)
Tigers get a scare but keep winning
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Post by PoNd HocKey ChAmP67 »

FINAL
Orono 6
Red Wing 2
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Post by OU812 »

West 9
East 1

Weber - hat trick
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Post by PoNd HocKey ChAmP67 »

Waseca 3
Worthington 1

Lourdes remains undefeated beat St. Cloud Cath in overtime (4-3)
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Post by scarlethockey33 »

New Prague needs a 4 goal 3rd period to beat Chaska (5-4)

Northfield beats Red Wing 4-1

Interesting match ups for New Prague and Northfield in terms of the section on Tuesday night, New Prague will go to Faribault and Northfield will travel to Rochester

Tuesday December 21 games

New Prauge at Faribault
Northfield at Rochester Lourdes
Mankato West vs. JM
Mankato East at Sleepy Eye
Albert Lea vs. Austin
TG at Red Wing

bolds are my picks.
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Post by OU812 »

West 6

JM 0

Shots 22-19, JM. Rantanen 2 goals. West took 7 penalties in the 2nd period.
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Post by scarlethockey33 »

Red Wing loses to TG 4-1
Albert Lea wins against Austin 9-0
Lourdes beat Northfield 7-2

any news on Faribault v. New Prague?
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Post by wildhockey20 »

New Prague 5

Faribault 1
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Post by scarlethockey33 »

hope everyone had a great christmas break, how about some holiday tournaments?

Mankato West goes to the Fergus Falls tournament playing St. Francis, Fergus Falls and West Fargo in a Round Robin format.

New Prague goes to the Heritage Holiday Hockey Classic in Duluth featuring some good competition with teams like Duluth Central, Forest Lake and Cloquet.

Albert Lea and Rochester Lourdes will be in the Kiwanis Hockey Tournament in Rochester. Lourdes may be the toughest competition there. Some other teams there include IFalls, New Ulm and Dodge County.

Northfield
will be participating in the Schwan Cup Bronze Division with competition such as Orono, Holy Family and Sartell.

Mankato East is going to Eveleth-Gilbert/Mesabi East Holiday Tournament at Eveleth. Some teams over there include Eveleth, Greenway and Park Rapids.

Austin will be seen at the St. Michael-Albertville Holiday Tournament. Some other teams in the tournament include Redwood Valley, Two Harbors, Cambridge-Isanti.

any other tournaments that I may have missed?
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Post by Jim9000 »

Lacresent 4
LeSueur/StP 1
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Post by OU812 »

Anybody have any info on the Rochester A tournament? Any insight on Lourdes losing to the Eau Claire team? I see New Ulm beat Eau Claire the next day.
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Post by Cujo »

New Ulm beat Eau Claire 2-0 with an empty netter at the end. Lourdes lost to Eau Claire 2-0. I think Lourdes plays New Ulm in a couple weeks in NU.

Albert Lea won the cosolation
Lourdes took 3rd
Dodge county took 7th. I was impressed with DC. They go hard all the time and played well.
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