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How many teams should the MSHSL seed for the state tournament?

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Class A Rankings 1-2-11

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There were a lot of games played this week and many didn't make things easy. Lots of Team A beat Team B, Team B beat Team C, and Team C destroyed Team A. Let the discussion begin and let me know what you all think.

1. St Thomas Academy (4-3)
Not the greatest showing at the Gold Division of Schwan’s Cup, but a win over WBL and playing two quality AA opponents well keeps them up here. The Cadets have two good Class A opponents this week.
This week: Thurs vs South St Paul, Sat vs Mahtomedi

2. Breck (5-3)
While they didn’t win, Breck had a pretty decent showing against top Class AA competition in the Gold Division of Schwan’s Cup. A loss to WBL that St Thomas beat brings them down. This Tuesday the Mustangs will get to continue their Class A dominance.
This week: Tues @ St Paul Saints

3. Blake (7-1-1)
I was tempted to put Hermantown in this spot, but Blake’s 4 goal win of the team Hermantown tied keeps them up here. They will have played 1 game less than half their schedule after this week with two conference games and a game against one of the last three undefeated teams in MN.
This week: Tues @ St Paul Johnson, Fri @ Totino-Grace, Sat vs Minnehaha Academy

4. Hermantown (9-0-1)
The Hawks didn’t win their 3 games, but they didn’t lose any either and all 3 were against quality opponents. Hermantown has one of the state’s most difficult Class A schedules year in and year out. Without a slip by Breck or St Thomas, they won’t claim any higher, though, as they don’t play either of the Class’ top two teams this season.
This week: Tues vs Duluth Marshall, Sat vs International Falls

5. Hibbing/Chisholm (9-3-1)
While I will admit that based on head to head games each of Virginia and Little Falls would move up and Hibbing would be below them, the body of the work of all three is in this order in my opinion. Hibbing crushed a good Mahtomedi team and beat Spring Lake Park. They should have two good tests this week in their trip south.
This week: Fri @ Rochester Mayo, Sat @ Albert Lea

6. Virginia/MI-B (8-4)
The recent loss to Mahtomedi looks to be more a statement for the Zephyrs than the Blue Devils. We’ll see how they rebound this week against a good Cloquet team and the same teams Hibbing is playing Friday and Saturday.
This week: Tues @ Cloquet, Fri @ Albert Lea, Sat @ Rochester Mayo

7. Little Falls (9-1-2)
With Lourdes finally losing, and probably more to come, Little Falls should get the #4 seed if they make it to state. Good luck to the Flyers the rest of the way; there are plenty of 6A schools looking to knock them off.
This week: Tues vs St Cloud Apollo

8. Duluth Marshall (7-4-1)
Losing to Superior? C’mon Hilltoppers…well at least you beat Madison Edgewood. Seeing them win all their games this week would be a great sign, or at least two. The only Class A team they’ve lost to is St Thomas, but their wins have not proven much yet.
This week: Tues @ Hermantown, Fri @ Grand Rapids, Sat vs Rochester Lourdes

9. Proctor (8-2)
Too high? The Rails have beaten every Class A team they have played, including International Fails by 7 and recently Delano in OT. They will be tested this week, so we will have to see how this week turns out.
This week: Tues vs Superior, Thurs vs Duluth Central, Sat @ Ashland

10. Delano (7-2-1)
Playing Proctor this week will be a good test for both teams. Both teams have proven little but don’t have much against them on their schedule yet.
This week: Tues @ Waconia, Fri @ St Cloud Cathedral

11. Totino-Grace (7-0)
Totino-Grace was idle this week due to no holiday tournament and weather canceling their game in East Grand Forks. Their win over TRF keeps them this high with no real quality wins on their schedule. They should be tested this week; of their remaining 18 games, I count 4 that are not against quality opponents. This season the Eagles have the opportunity to prove there are the top Class A team in state or that their record is a reflection of the quality of opponents they’ve played.
This week: Wed @ Mahtomedi, Fri vs Blake, Sat vs Irondale

12. Crookston (6-5-1)
This is hard for me to do, but they went into WI and beat a Superior team that many are having trouble doing in MN. Their only losses in Class A thus far are to my #4 and #8. Good luck to the Pirates as they continue to make some change in 8A.
This week: Thurs vs Roseau

13. East Grand Forks (6-4)
The Green Wave lost to Hermantown by less than the Pirates did, but the head to head loss puts them here. If Warroad and TRF don’t have anything to say about it, these two top 15 teams could be in the section 8A final. They will be challenged this Tuesday; it will be a great test for them.
This week: Tues @ Moorhead, Thurs @ Grand Forks Red River

14. South St. Paul (7-2)
Their win over Tartan keeps the Packers above Mahtomedi. They have proven little this season, but have only lost to AA teams. They play the top two CSC teams this week. Not losing both games this week will help a lot.
This week: Thurs @ St Thomas Academy, Sat @ Hill Murray

15. Mahtomedi (3-7-1)
The Zephyrs’ record is not a reflection of their play. Of their 7 losses, 4 are to Class A teams in my top 8, two possible top 5 Class AA teams and a quality Tartan team. This will possibly be one of the most battle tested teams and regardless of their record be very prepared for sectional play. Two time defending section champion, they play two quality section opponents this week. I wouldn’t be surprised to see three wins this week.
This week: Wed vs Totino-Grace, Thurs @ Henry Sibley, Sat @ St Thomas Academy

16. Warroad (7-4)
The closeness of the 8A schools this year is probably exciting for the northland and will definitely make for a quality section tournament. There isn’t much of an opportunity to improve section standing this week, but they play two teams away this week in St Cloud who can both play with anyone.
This week: Fri @ St Cloud Tech, Sat @ St Cloud Cathedral

17. Thief River Falls (6-4-1)
A tie with Hermantown this week shows they can play with anyone, but their losses keep them toward the bottom of the top 20. Having a common opponent this week with EGF will help ranking these two next week with them not having played yet.
This week: Tues vs Kittson Central, Thurs vs Moorhead

18. Chisago Lakes Area (8-1)
Their 3 wins over WI teams don’t give much indication to their true ability, but one loss on their schedule and beating Coon Rapids show they can play. Their only quality opponents this season look to be Totino-Grace and Benilde, which will make assessing their ability tough as the season goes on.
This week: Tues vs Spring Lake Park, Sat vs Benilde

19. New Ulm (7-1-2)
Delano crushing them in New Ulm doesn’t help their case, but that being their only loss and beating the supposedly best team in WI is definitely helpful. Playing Litchfield this week will get their section a great feel for seeding the top two teams.
This week: Tues @ Dodge Country, Thurs vs Litchfield

20. Rochester Lourdes (11-1)
Losing to a team New Ulm beat? Supposedly the #1 team in WI, but New Ulm beat them and you didn’t? I wasn’t really impressed, only had the high because they hadn’t lost. Period. They did beat a Superior team that others have had trouble with, but have yet to play a team in the top 20 in Class A and are having more GA than a top team would. I have no doubt they’ll make it to state, but unless they upset someone before then, they will possibly fall further on my list.
This week: Tues @ Albert Lea, Sat @ Duluth Marshall

Watch List

Duluth Central (6-6)
This week: Mon @ Duluth East, Thurs @ Proctor

Fergus Falls (5-2-2)
This week: Tues @ Wadena-Deer Creek, Fri @ Wilmar

Detroit Lakes (7-3)
This week: Thurs vs Wadena-Deer Creek, Sat vs Wilmar

Sartell-St. Stephen (6-4)
This week: Thurs vs Alexandria, Sat vs Rogers

St. Cloud Cathedral (5-3)
This week: Tues vs Holy Family Catholic, Fri vs Delano, Sat vs Warroad

Orono (6-4)
This week: Tues vs Hutchinson, Thurs @ Hopkins

Mound-Westonka (5-3-2)
This week: Tues vs Litchfield, Fri @ Holy Family Catholic

Litchfield (6-0-1)
This week: Tues @ Mound-Westonka, Thurs @ New Ulm, Sat vs Hutchinson

Providence Academy (8-3)
This week: Thurs @ St Paul Academy, Sat vs St Paul Saints

Albert Lea (8-2)
This week: Tues vs Rochester Lourdes, Fri vs Virginia, Sat vs Hibbing

Eveleth-Gilbert (7-3)
This week: Thurs @ International Falls, Sat vs Silver Bay


Section Standings if the season ended today

1A
#20 Rochester Lourdes (11-1)
Albert Lea (8-2)
New Prague (3-6-1)
Mankato West (7-3-1)

I’m not convinced the section games against Lourdes will be very competitive but I’m told every week to not count anyone out. So I’m not. All of these top 4 play each other this season, so we should see this unwind in the coming weeks.

2A
#2 Breck (5-3)
#3 Blake (7-1-1)
#10 Delano (7-3)
Providence Academy (8-3)
Holy Family Catholic (4-5)

This is probably the deepest section in both classes. There are 9 teams that will make most of the quarterfinal games competitive. It is a toss-up of HF or PA making it to the semi’s, with probably a Breck/Blake final. I hope this game is televised. The winner will likely be the #1 or #2 seed at state, depending on how the Breck/St Thomas game goes.

3A
#19 New Ulm (7-1-2)
Hutchinson (2-5)
Litchfield (6-0-1)

New Ulm beat Hutch by a score of 1-0. Litch will be playing both Hutch and New Ulm twice this season. Both they and New Ulm control their destiny in section seeding. The #1 seed has a huge advantage in only having to play one tough game to get to state.

4A

#1 St Thomas (4-3)
#15 Mahtomedi (3-7-1)
#14 South St Paul (7-2)
#11 Totino-Grace (7-0)
#18 Chisago Lakes Area (8-1)

Mahtomedi is the two-time defending champion of this section and has yet to be defeated by a section foe. St Thomas plays both South St Paul and Mahtomedi this week as well as Mahtomedi playing Totino-Grace, so more than a simply objective ranking will be able to be made next week. If the Packers still had Wilcox, they’d probably be the favorite to win this section, but at the moment I suspect the final will be Cadets v. Zephyrs.

5A
#4 Hermantown (9-0-1)
#9 Proctor (8-2)
Rogers (3-5-1)
Sauk Rapids-Rice (3-6)
St Cloud Cathedral (5-3)

Hermantown looks to be the only legitimate team to put your money on for making it to the X. Proctor will play all of these teams aside from Cathedral by the end of the season. Rogers beat both of Cathedral and Sauk Rapids by a score of 2-1, Sauk Rapids in OT and Cathedral in Regulation, but got shut out by Hermantown.

6A
#7 Little Falls (9-1-2)
Sartell-St Stephen (6-4)
Fergus Falls (5-2-2)
Alexandria (4-6)
Detroit Lakes (7-3)
Northern Lakes (4-5)

How’d I do Central Lakes followers? Most of the conference play has yet to begin outside of games being played against Little Falls. I only used section games between these 6 teams to put this list together and I believe I got all the records correct.

7A
#6 Virginia (8-4)
#5 Hibbing (9-3-1)
#8 Duluth Marshall (7-4-1)
Duluth Central (6-6)
International Falls (2-7-1)
Eveleth-Gilbert (7-3)

Without head to head match ups in the top 4 aside from Hibbing/Marshall, knowing exactly what will happen is difficult. I used all the common opponents, Little Falls, International Falls, Mahtomedi, Spring Lake Park and Lakeville North, to compare Hibbing and Virginia overall.

8A
#12 Crookston (6-5-1)
#13 East Grand Forks (6-4)
#16 Warroad (7-4)
#17 Thief River Falls (6-4-1)
Lake of the Woods (4-4-1)

This list is very incomplete as there are only a handful of head to head games, which is all I’ve used to put them in order. Luckily, though, there are few enough that they line up for the most part. I put TRF over LOW based on record.


State Seeding if Section Top Seeds Won Their Section Today
#1 St Thomas
#2 Breck
#3 Hermantown
#4 Virginia
[5] Little Falls
[6] Crookston
[7] New Ulm
[8] Rochester Lourdes
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I can dig it.

Post by CanadianTuxedo »

Again, thanks HS for posting these rankings and analysis. Interesting to see STA and Breck still up top. Good to see a person rank a team not based solely on a team's record.
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9. Proctor (8-2)
Too high? The Rails have beaten every Class A team they have played, including International Fails by 7 and recently Delano in OT. They will be tested this week, so we will have to see how this week turns out.
This week: Tues vs Superior, Thurs vs Duluth Central, Sat @ Ashland

10. Delano (7-3)
Playing Proctor this week will be a good test for both teams. Both teams have proven little but don’t have much against them on their schedule yet.
This week: Tues @ Waconia, Thurs @ Proctor, Fri @ St Cloud Cathedral



How does this work????
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Re: Class A Rankings 1-2-11

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HShockeywatcher wrote: Let the discussion begin and let me know what you all think.


20. Rochester Lourdes (11-1)
Losing to a team New Ulm beat? Supposedly the #1 team in WI, but New Ulm beat them and you didn’t? I wasn’t really impressed, only had the high because they hadn’t lost. Period. They did beat a Superior team that others have had trouble with, but have yet to play a team in the top 20 in Class A and are having more GA than a top team would. I have no doubt they’ll make it to state, but unless they upset someone before then, they will possibly fall further on my list.
This week: Tues @ Albert Lea, Sat @ Duluth Marshall

Goal tending is the greatest equalizer and EC-Tholey is one of the best goalies around, so I'm not surprized that Rochester lost to EC. Blitzer-Moorhead just shut down #1AA Wayzata and I think Tholey is a better goalie than Blitzer.

Rochester is a top 5 team in MN and I'd say more like a top 3 team
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Re: Class A Rankings 1-2-11

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High Flyer wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: Let the discussion begin and let me know what you all think.


20. Rochester Lourdes (11-1)
Losing to a team New Ulm beat? Supposedly the #1 team in WI, but New Ulm beat them and you didn’t? I wasn’t really impressed, only had the high because they hadn’t lost. Period. They did beat a Superior team that others have had trouble with, but have yet to play a team in the top 20 in Class A and are having more GA than a top team would. I have no doubt they’ll make it to state, but unless they upset someone before then, they will possibly fall further on my list.
This week: Tues @ Albert Lea, Sat @ Duluth Marshall

Goal tending is the greatest equalizer and EC-Tholey is one of the best goalies around, so I'm not surprized that Rochester lost to EC. Blitzer-Moorhead just shut down #1AA Wayzata and I think Tholey is a better goalie than Blitzer.

Rochester is a top 5 team in MN and I'd say more like a top 3 team
If that goalie was so great, I'm sure he would not have allowed two goals to New Ulm...

You may be right, and we'll get a chance to see come March. But they haven't played any top teams in MN yet and have been very close with a lot of teams. The reason teams that are at the top are up there is that when they play non-quality opponents they usually shut them out or allow one goal, they don't go to OT with them.

My guess is that Lourdes will get torn apart by Marshall, Delano, St Thomas and Breck and finish 20-5. I guess time will tell.
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6A looks good.
Little Falls clearly has surged.
Sartell and
Fergus Falls stay in that order, their holiday tournement games make them a wash
Alexandria certainly improved
and that leaves DL who really can't do anything to help themselves.

It's interesting that LF should go so high in the state ranking, but it was a great win against Tech, who in most opinions was or is the favorite in teh CLC.
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Post by scarlethockey33 »

If that goalie was so great, I'm sure he would not have allowed two goals to New Ulm...
Tholey only gave up 1 goal, the other was an empty netter

the steep drop of Lourdes was quite a surprise, I totally agree with Lourdes dropping after a lost to Eau Claire but you dropped them 15 spots, that undefeated record must've meant alot to their ranking
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Post by genosniper »

Pretty decent showing by Breck against AA teams? You call a 8-0 loss to HM a decent showing?

WBL was close, but I think you have Breck rated a little high in the polls.
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Post by drop the puck »

I guess the performance (or general lack there of) of the top A teams - THIS YEAR - clearly demonstrates why two levels of play are needed.

The top A teams appear to be middle of the road, if not week AA level teams.

Agree with the post above, conference strength of STA will be known by the end of next weekend.
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

scarlethockey33 wrote:
If that goalie was so great, I'm sure he would not have allowed two goals to New Ulm...
Tholey only gave up 1 goal, the other was an empty netter

the steep drop of Lourdes was quite a surprise, I totally agree with Lourdes dropping after a lost to Eau Claire but you dropped them 15 spots, that undefeated record must've meant alot to their ranking
It did. I wasn't convinced on them at all.

There were other teams, like Providence Academy, that dropped a lot. And teams, like Proctor, that jumped a lot. This part of the season with so many teams in the mix it would be very easy to make an argument for most teams to be quite a few spots higher.
genosniper wrote:Pretty decent showing by Breck against AA teams? You call a 8-0 loss to HM a decent showing?

WBL was close, but I think you have Breck rated a little high in the polls.
Not I do not consider a 0-8 shutout a decent showing at all. Hill Murray is a very good opponent. But they played their other two opponents very similarly to how St Thomas did. With their schedule it is difficult to do asses them, but if others feel as you do, I will probably let them slide a little more.
drop the puck wrote:I guess the performance (or general lack there of) of the top A teams - THIS YEAR - clearly demonstrates why two levels of play are needed.

The top A teams appear to be middle of the road, if not week AA level teams.

Agree with the post above, conference strength of STA will be known by the end of next weekend.
I agree. There will be years when teams like Breck, St Thomas, Warroad, Hermantown, etc can play with any team in state, but in their off years, they will not have the same depth. They were talking about that during the Breck/East game, how the top 2 lines of each team were pretty even, but East was able to skate a 3rd line that was still able to keep up and Breck had to keep skating 2 to be able to compete.
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Post by bauerboy »

You gotta be kidding me with crookston at 12! Ill admit there win against EGF deserves some recognition but come end of the year i guarantee theyre out of the top 20 and section 8 will either be EGF or TRF
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Post by goldy313 »

Lourdes was ranked highly based on a lot of assumptions and with them missing a number of players (5?) due to their state title run in football a slow start was to be expected. To their credit they won the close games and in the process should have gotten better by getting some kids more playing time. A month later they're still mucking around and playing teams, on paper at least, much too close leaving little margin for error.

Based on what they have done so far they were ranked to high last week and probably to low this week. I think they're a #8-#12 team and what happens this week with them in games against Albert Lea and Duluth Marshall along with how Albert Lea fares with Hibbing and Virginia will show a lot of just where Lourdes is, and to an extent Albert Lea, in relation to the top 4 -8.

Ranking A teams this year looks to be tougher than most as their seems to be a lot of parity and with really no signature wins in the class not much to distinguish one team from the next and my hunch is that trend will continue.
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Re: Class A Rankings 1-2-11

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HShockeywatcher wrote:
High Flyer wrote:
HShockeywatcher wrote: Let the discussion begin and let me know what you all think.


20. Rochester Lourdes (11-1)
Losing to a team New Ulm beat? Supposedly the #1 team in WI, but New Ulm beat them and you didn’t? I wasn’t really impressed, only had the high because they hadn’t lost. Period. They did beat a Superior team that others have had trouble with, but have yet to play a team in the top 20 in Class A and are having more GA than a top team would. I have no doubt they’ll make it to state, but unless they upset someone before then, they will possibly fall further on my list.
This week: Tues @ Albert Lea, Sat @ Duluth Marshall

Goal tending is the greatest equalizer and EC-Tholey is one of the best goalies around, so I'm not surprized that Rochester lost to EC. Blitzer-Moorhead just shut down #1AA Wayzata and I think Tholey is a better goalie than Blitzer.

Rochester is a top 5 team in MN and I'd say more like a top 3 team
If that goalie was so great, I'm sure he would not have allowed two goals to New Ulm...
1st goal was off a 5-3 PP
2nd goal was a EN, so he really only gave up 1 goal

Tholey had the #5 best save percentage in the Elite League this fall . 920 and he took a lot of shots. Lyon, Lindren & Tholey were the top 3 goalies in the Elite league and were very similar
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High Flyer, no big deal but the 1st goal was off a 5-4 PP
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I may have to agree with genosniper about Breck. An 8-0 drubbing by HM and an 0-3 showing in Schwans does not make them worthy of a #2 spot.

DE game against Breck was not as close as the score depicted. Top 5 yes, #2 no.
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puckster15 wrote:I may have to agree with genosniper about Breck. An 8-0 drubbing by HM and an 0-3 showing in Schwans does not make them worthy of a #2 spot.

DE game against Breck was not as close as the score depicted. Top 5 yes, #2 no.
Breck led 1-0 after the 1st.

East scored three of their goals in a span of 5:02. If you take away those 5:02 the score was 2-2 with Breck outshooting East.

As the announcer was saying during the game, Breck's top two lines can compete with anyone's top 2 in the state. But they do not have depth and late in games with deep teams they will hurt.

As many have said, it is very hard to determine which is better, losing to 3 top AA teams, or beating 3 good A teams? As I've said, without a shutout this week, Breck will probably fall. I hate holding a conference against a team.

I doubt there are many Class A teams that could do much better against the Pioneers...
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puckster15 wrote:I may have to agree with genosniper about Breck. An 8-0 drubbing by HM and an 0-3 showing in Schwans does not make them worthy of a #2 spot.

DE game against Breck was not as close as the score depicted. Top 5 yes, #2 no.
Agreed here as well. Breck's blue liners are struggling with the exception #24 (who needs to stay out of the box it seems), the goaltending is suspect at best and there is no way you can say that there top two lines can skate with anyone. In A maybe, but comparing them to the elite AA teams top lines like Edina, BSM, Wayzata, MTKA, HM, EP etc.... Come on. Really? what was that announcer thinking? They will outplay them night in and night out. Not only did they go 0-3, they only scored 3 goals in three games. If there top two lines were truly as good as they come, then they would have scored more than a goal a game. It appears that some people are confusing this squad with last years team that lead the State in scoring by a wide margin. Next year this team may be back in form and the top two lines (who are all juniors or sophmores I beleive) actually may be some of the best, but this year they are only a slightly above average team.

There probably a top ten team because the entire class seems to be down a ways, and maybe even a top 7 team, but until they beat someone with a winning record how can they be ranked any higher? I think Blake appears to be a better team at this point in the year and may finally have a chance at taking back the weak Tri Metro.
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letsgowild wrote:High Flyer, no big deal but the 1st goal was off a 5-4 PP
Missed that. I just looked at the score sheet real quick and didn't see that there were co-incidentals.
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bauerboy wrote:You gotta be kidding me with crookston at 12! Ill admit there win against EGF deserves some recognition but come end of the year i guarantee theyre out of the top 20 and section 8 will either be EGF or TRF

You may be right. Who Knows?
I am an EGF fan, but, right now, Crookston deserves the higher rating.

I do believe, as a whole, that EGF does have a tougher schedule than Crookston, but at this time, Crookson won.

Give them their kudos.
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Redlight wrote:
puckster15 wrote:I may have to agree with genosniper about Breck. An 8-0 drubbing by HM and an 0-3 showing in Schwans does not make them worthy of a #2 spot.

DE game against Breck was not as close as the score depicted. Top 5 yes, #2 no.
Agreed here as well...there is no way you can say that there top two lines can skate with anyone. In A maybe, but comparing them to the elite AA teams top lines like Edina, BSM, Wayzata, MTKA, HM, EP etc.... Come on. Really? what was that announcer thinking?
He was thinking that he watched Breck play even or ahead of East for two periods playing their top two lines almost exclusively. Then after they got tired in the third they got scored on with 3 straight goals (which often happens to the best of teams) and continued to play with them for the last 12 minutes of the game.

Take the Hill game out. Hill is a top 5 team in state, will probably tear STA apart, and was their first real rough team all year and first non-home game.

Then they played WBL tied after 1, scored the first goal, allowed two and then allowed none in the 3rd, all only allowing 17 shots.

You're right; Breck is not the team they were last year that can play with any team in the state. They are a solid class A team; doing better against their mediocre conference opponents than anyone else in the state. Expect a shut out tomorrow.
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

Blake gets shut out 0-7 by a Holy Angels team that isn't top 10 in any AA polls and having them at #3 is okay, but when Breck gets shut out by one more goal by an even better AA team, that's not okay having them ahead? :lol:
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Post by mnhockeybum »

You people crack me up. Did any of you see the Breck games at the Schwan's Cup?

Breck came out flat against Hill Murray (Top 5 team in AA), but were only down 2-0 with 8 minutes left in second before the flood gates opened. Shots were 25-20 Hill Murray. Breck's goalie didn't have a great game. But wouldn't matter anyways. Even if he stood on his head, Hill is still 5 goals better than Breck. Hill is one heck of a team and will probably be AA State Champs in March.

Next up is DE and Breck comes out flying and totally outplays East in the 1st period and it is 1-1 going into the third. East gets a couple of power play goals and another one late in the third to win 5-2. Shots were East 20, Breck 19. How can you say the game wasn't even that close?

White Bear scores on a 5-3 power play (by Wahlin) to beat Breck 2-1.
Breck outshoots them 22-17 and hits 3 pipes. Very good game. Could have went either way.

I laugh when you people complain that Breck should play in AA but when they do and are very competitive against a couple of top 15 teams, you still bash them.

Maybe next year they should play in the Bronze or Open division and beat everyone by 10. Then you will complain that they should be in a higher division. Can't make this stuff up.


As for Class A, STA will win state by beating Breck or Blake in finals. (Whoever comes out of Sections).

--Sticking up for Class A since 2000
fivehole628
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Post by fivehole628 »

Delano is 7-2-1.

The shootout loss counts as a tie.
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Post by dueling21 »

mnhockeybum wrote:Shots were East 20, Breck 19. How can you say the game wasn't even that close?
Having seen East a couple of times already, I'll add that they don't just throw shots on net and won't have big shot advantages in many games, even if they totally are outplaying another team. They cycle the puck and wait for great scoring chances and when they get them, the 'Hounds bury them.
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Post by Rkhockey_7 »

At the end of the year crookstan will be 4th in section 8 with trf and egf in the finals to go to state
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