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USAH prpposed rule changes

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Proposal # Rule Subject
HK 1 Playing Rule Sub-Committee on Rule Book Grammar & Redundancy Suggested Rulebook Translation
1 Points of Emphasis
2A & 2B Permits Cross-Ice goal lines to be painted on the rink ice
3A & 3B Permits Cross-Ice goal crease lines to be painted on the rink ice
4 Moves number of Team Officials on Players Bench to Rule 201
5 Deletes language regarding goal light/timing light/goal judge
6A & 6B Deletes language regarding number of players & goalkeepers eligible to play in a game
7 Moves number of Team Officials on Players Bench to Rule 201
8A & 8B Suspend game if no Team Official is on Players Bench to control team
9A & 9B Suspend game if no Team Official OR responsible adult is on Players Bench to control team
10 Removes language regarding roster omission as being considered an inadvertent clerical error
11A & 11B Changes penalty for roster omission to 'delaying the game'
12A & 12B Adds language regarding who serves a bench minor penalty
13A & 13B Adds that a 'shooter tutor' may be used in place of a goalkeeper in Adult games
14A & 14B Required players & goalkeepers to cover all exposed skin below the waist
15A & 15B Requires all players to wear long sleeved sweater
16A & 16B Adds language that uniform numbers 00-09 are permitted
17 Move language regarding injured official to Rule 501
18A & 18B Adds language requiring throat/neck laceration protectors for goalkeepers
19A & 19B Amends the penalty for certain equipment violations from a minor to misconduct penalty
20A & 20B Adds language for Adults that clarifies protective equipment requirements
21A & 21B Adds a minor penalty for removing helmet/facemask while on the ice
22A & 22B Requires mouthguards to be attached to the helmet or facemask
23A & 23B Changes the first mouthguard violation by either team to a minor penalty
24A & 24B Bench Minor penalty is assessed for all subsequent violations after the first mouthguard violation
25A & 25B Puck color changed to orange from black
26 Removes language regarding the order of who enters the penalty bench
27A & 27B Permits Affiliates/Governing Bodies to reduce minor penalties to 1 1/2 minutes for games played with periods up to 15 minutes in length
28A & 28B Permits opposing team to choose how certain multiple penalties are served by the opponent
29A & 29B Adds language regarding Double Minor penalties
30A & 30B Requires teams to immediately place a player on the penalty bench for Major penalties
31A & 31B Prohibits teams from replacing the substitute player designated to serve a Major penalty
32A & 32B Requires a minor penalty for teams causing certain stoppages when a substitute player is not on the penalty bench prior to the expiration of a Major penalty
33A & 33B Adds language for players assessed a Major plus Misconduct/Game Misconduct penalties
34 Clarifies language concerning hearing for Physical Assault of Officials
35A & 35B Requires teams to immediately place a player on the penalty bench for Match penalties
36A & 36B Requires a minor penalty for teams causing certain stoppages when a substitute player is not on the penalty bench prior to the expiration of a Match penalty
37A & 37B Adds minor penalty for a Team Official who interferes or distracts during a Penalty Shot
38A & 38B Adds Game Misconduct penalty for a Team Official who interferes or distracts during a Penalty Shot
39A & 39B Clarifies when substitute must enter the penalty bench following a Goalkeeper penalty
40 Removes penalty for goalkeeper participating in play beyond center red line
41A & 41B Adds language concerning how delayed (stacked) penalties are served
42A & 42B Adds language concerning how delayed (stacked) penalties are served
43A & 43B Adds language concerning how delayed (stacked) penalties are served
44A & 44B Adds an end zone faceoff following a penalty that causes a shorthanded situation
45A & 45B Adds Captain's choice for multiple delayed penalties if a goal is scored
46A & 46B If a shorthanded team scores during a delayed penalty to be assessed to their opponent the delayed penalty is served
47 Move language regarding injured official to Rule 501
48A & 48B Adds 2 Referee/1 Linesman as an approved officiating system
49A & 49B Adds 2 Referee/1 Linesman and 2 Referee/2 Linesmen as approved officiating systems
50A & 50B Adds 2 Referee/2 Linesman as an approved officiating system
51A & 51B Adds 2 Referee/2 Linesman as an approved officiating system
52A & 52B Adds 2 Referee/2 Linesman as an approved officiating system for Youth & Girls' U16 age classifications and older
53A & 53B Requires 1 Referee/2 Linesman system to be used in all Youth & Girls' U12 age classes and older
54A & 54B Removes the responsibility of the Referee awarding goals
55A & 55B Makes the Linesmen responsible for stopping play for puck frozen by the goalkeeper & awarding goals
56A & 56B Adds a minor penalty for spraying the goalkeeper
57A & 57B Changes the penalty for obscene gesture by a player to a Misconduct penalty
58 Moves 'Adjustment to Clothing & Equipment' rule to Rule 309
59A & 59B Increases penalty for 'Checking from Behind' in last 10 minutes of game or in overtime
60A & 60B Adds a minor penalty option for 'Checking from Behind'
61A & 61B Increases player & Head Coach penalties for 'Checking from Behind' infractions
62 Moves Butt-Ending penalty to Rule 634
63A & 63B Requires all faceoffs take place at one of the 9 faceoff spots
64A & 64B Increases penalties and adds progressive suspensions for fighting
64C Requires 3 game suspension for 2nd fight during season & proper authority review for 3rd fight
65 Increases the penalty for removing their own or opponents helmet prior or during an altercation to a Match penalty
65A Increases penalty for removing helmet prior to an altercation to Match penalty
66A & 66B Requires an end zone faceoff for a hand pass violation
67A & 67B Requires an immediate stoppage for a hand pass on goal
68A & 68B Adds penalty language for contact to head, face or neck by an opponent's body or equipment
69A & 69B Adds penalty language for contact to head by an opponent
70A & 70B Adds penalty language for contact to head by an opponent in addition to any other penalty assessed
71A & 71B Adds penalty language for Head Coach in addition to player penalty for contact to head by an opponent
72A & 72B In Adult Male classifications allows for a Major penalty for accidental high sticking infraction that causes an injury
73A & 73B Requires an immediate stoppage for a high sticked puck directly on goal
74A & 74B Changes high sticking the puck as dasher board height (not shoulders)
75 Clarifies grabbing the facemask rule
76A & 76B Changes the 'Icing the Puck' rule definition
77A & 77B Adds the modified icing rule (USAH Junior)
78A & 78B Removes the exception which allows a shorthanded team to legally ice the puck
79A & 79B Changes the faceoff location for Official's error on icing to Neutral Zone spot
80 Adds clarifying language to Interference rule
81A & 81B Adds tag-up offside to all age classifications prior to defending player playing the puck
82A & 82B Adds delayed offsides in Youth/Girls' age classifications
83A & 83B Adds tag-up offsides in Youth/Girls' U16 age classifications and older
84A & 84B Adds tag-up offsides in Youth/Girls' U14 age classifications and older
85A & 85B Adds tag-up offsides to all age classifications
86 Removes rule calling for a stoppage if team starts play with fewer than allowed players and the team is first to play the puck in the Neutral or Attaching Zone
87 Removes language in 'Passes' rule
88A & 88B Adds language regarding second puck on ice
89A & 89B Allows for time-outs in curfew games if ice time permits
90 Removes language regarding determining a winner and players on the ice at end of periods
91A & 91B Allows for time-outs in all curfew games
92A & 92B Adds overtime and shootout procedures for tied games
93 Adds clarifying language to Tripping/Clipping/Leg Checking rule
94A & 94B Prohibits body checking in the Youth U12 and under classifications
95A & 95B Prohibits body checking in all House League levels
96 Changes the 'Checking from Behind' penalty signal
97 Changes the 'Delayed Whistle' (Slow Whistle) signal
98 Add an 'Intentional Offside' signal
99 Adds language clarifying the definition of legal body check
100 Deletes 'Fisticuffs' from the Glossary
101 Adds language to the Glossary definition of 'Head Contact' to make consistent with Prop. 68B
102A & 102B Adds an additional minor penalty if offending player denies a reasonable scoring opportunity
103 Removes language regarding HECC approved skate blade recommendation
JR 1 Adds fine for team failing to have a Coaching staff member on bench during warm-ups
JR 2 Teams have 10 days to have nameplate added to newly acquired player's sweater
JR 3 Adds fine for teams required to utilized a backup goaltender due to suspension
JR 4 Adds fine for team not complying with authorized logo/marks on equipment or uniforms
JR 5 Requires home team to provide secure area for non-dressed players to view game
JR 6 Requires immediate stoppage if goalkeeper loses equipment if safety is in question
JR 7 Removes mouthpiece recommendation from Note - Mouthpiece is still required under Rule 304
JR 8 Allow players of age majority to wear non-HECC approved hockey helmets
JR 9 Allows all Tier 1 League players to wear a half shield or full facemask regardless of age
JR 10 Adds 'J' clips as required equipment if helmet/facemask were designed with these devices
JR 11 Team Official cannot sit near his bench if assessed Game Ejection penalty
JR 12 Adds language regarding goalkeeper committing multiple infractions during Penalty Shots
JR 13 Adds Penalty Shot option if certain penalties cannot be served prior to the end of the game
JR 14 Defines that goalkeepers remains in their crease during a Penalty Shot by teammate
JR 15 Adds 2 Referee/2 Linesman as an approved officiating system
JR 16 Requires all games to be video recorded and available to opposing team & Officials following the game
JR 17 Adds a Penalty Shot if goalkeeper removes protective equipment during a breakaway
JR 18 Clarifies penalty if team delays placing correct players on ice following an icing violation
JR 19 Adds minor penalty for causing a false faceoff if team is prohibited from making a line change
JR 20 Requires all faceoffs take place at one of the 9 faceoff spots
JR 21 Reformats and clarifies Fighting rule
JR 22 Allows goal from puck striking skate as long as there is no distinct kicking motion
JR 23 Add 'Head Contact' rule to Junior rulebook
JR 24 Prohibits the change of players following an icing violation
JR 25 Timeout may be used prior to shootout to warmup a goalkeeper who must face at least 1 shooter
JR 26 Clarifies overtime and shootout procedures for tied games
JR 27 Adds Match penalty for goalkeeper striking opponent with blocker glove & adds 'Head Contact' language
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Not sure how easy this is to read, some are recommended for passing, defeat or referred for further study.
Some are for Senior, Junior, and some for youth.
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94A & 94B Prohibits body checking in the Youth U12 and under classifications Approve and Refer To: Youth Council & SPEC
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Post by TriedThat2 »

Mark,
What does approve and refer mean? Is this from USAH rules committee? More stops for this, or just a stamped approval???
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Post by old goalie85 »

81a & b I would be in favor of. [Tag up offsides] who do I e-mail?
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Post by observer »

Regarding the proposed change in checking.

Totally crazy, dangerous, and not very insightful. Very disappointed in leadership on this one. They really need to pick up their game and focus on real solutions. Coaching camps, clinics, videos, roving experts from USA Hockey. It's disappointing because I'm not seeing the necessary activity from USA Hockey. Extremely weak decision making.

It was mentioned one of the primary reasons is declining numbers and registration revenue, after Squirts, is due, it's suspected, because of checking. Wrong. It's because checking wasn't taught properly at the Squirt level so the players are prepared for PeeWee. The first few PeeWee games for a small first player probably are scary as he's usually totally unprepared.

The declining revenue and numbers situation should be addressed through recruiting new players to the game only.

If it's a liability issue shame on leadership for not providing instruction. The injuries will be worse and more frequent waiting for bantam to introduce checking to the game. PeeWee players all kind of learn together. At bantam some will be very good at it (the football players and those coached by smart coaches) and other will be toast. Squished.

Are they even paying attention to the way the game is evolving? Even in the NHL it's now about passing, puck control and staying out of the box.

The refs can play a huge role too. Make the calls and things change quickly. Skate to the bench before the game and politely explain to both teams how you call things and then stick to it. Hands high, hits to the head, unnecessary "finishing", etc. You're in charge, take control. Help with the instruction by talking with the coaches and the players before the game. Be leaders.
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Re: USAH prpposed rule changes

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elliott70 wrote: 25A & 25B Puck color changed to orange from black
Huh???
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Re: USAH prpposed rule changes

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goaliewithfoggedglasses wrote:
elliott70 wrote: 25A & 25B Puck color changed to orange from black
Huh???
Did Bernie propose this one? :lol:
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Post by observer »

Regarding the proposed change in checking.

Totally crazy, dangerous, and not very insightful. Very disappointed in leadership on this one. They really need to pick up their game and focus on real solutions. Coaching camps, clinics, videos, roving experts from USA Hockey. It's disappointing because I'm not seeing the necessary activity from USA Hockey. Extremely weak decision making.

It was mentioned one of the primary reasons is declining numbers and registration revenue, after Squirts, is due, it's suspected, because of checking. Wrong. It's because checking wasn't taught properly at the Squirt level so the players are prepared for PeeWee. The first few PeeWee games for a small first player probably are scary as he's usually totally unprepared.

The declining revenue and numbers situation should be addressed through recruiting new players to the game only.

If it's a liability issue shame on leadership for not providing instruction. The injuries will be worse and more frequent waiting for bantam to introduce checking to the game. PeeWee players all kind of learn together. At bantam some will be very good at it (the football players and those coached by smart coaches) and other will be toast. Squished.

Are they even paying attention to the way the game is evolving? Even in the NHL it's now about passing, puck control and staying out of the box.

The refs can play a huge role too. Make the calls and things change quickly. Skate to the bench before the game and politely explain to both teams how you call things and then stick to it. Hands high, hits to the head, unnecessary "finishing", etc. You're in charge, take control. Help with the instruction by talking with the coaches and the players before the game. Be leaders.
Another unintended consequence will be 20-30% more girls playing PeeWee instead of 12U. That will not be well received. Not well thought out at all.
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Post by elliott70 »

TriedThat2 wrote:Mark,
What does approve and refer mean? Is this from USAH rules committee? More stops for this, or just a stamped approval???
approve means it is recommended to be adopted...
refer means it would go to committee or a person for specific clarification.

It will be discussed at the Jaunuary USAH meeting in Florida and then on to approval in Colorado in June...
then to the printer and in the hands of refs, coaches and others come Sept.
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old goalie85 wrote:81a & b I would be in favor of. [Tag up offsides] who do I e-mail?
recommend defeat is what the report says.

email USAH rules and youth council members (125- 175 people)**
email ALL MH board members (27 or 28 people)*

** these people vote
* only a few that are USAH board people vote but all can shout (well at least one of us does).
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orange puck is recommend defeat
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Post by the_juiceman »

observer wrote:Regarding the proposed change in checking.

Totally crazy, dangerous, and not very insightful. Very disappointed in leadership on this one. They really need to pick up their game and focus on real solutions. Coaching camps, clinics, videos, roving experts from USA Hockey. It's disappointing because I'm not seeing the necessary activity from USA Hockey. Extremely weak decision making.

It was mentioned one of the primary reasons is declining numbers and registration revenue, after Squirts, is due, it's suspected, because of checking. Wrong. It's because checking wasn't taught properly at the Squirt level so the players are prepared for PeeWee. The first few PeeWee games for a small first player probably are scary as he's usually totally unprepared.

The declining revenue and numbers situation should be addressed through recruiting new players to the game only.

If it's a liability issue shame on leadership for not providing instruction. The injuries will be worse and more frequent waiting for bantam to introduce checking to the game. PeeWee players all kind of learn together. At bantam some will be very good at it (the football players and those coached by smart coaches) and other will be toast. Squished.

Are they even paying attention to the way the game is evolving? Even in the NHL it's now about passing, puck control and staying out of the box.

The refs can play a huge role too. Make the calls and things change quickly. Skate to the bench before the game and politely explain to both teams how you call things and then stick to it. Hands high, hits to the head, unnecessary "finishing", etc. You're in charge, take control. Help with the instruction by talking with the coaches and the players before the game. Be leaders.
ref's play a huge role--how many times have you heard someone say "they're letting them play"... by not calling penalities, they're telling the kids what they are doing is ok & acceptable. From boarding, checking from behind, hits to the head, high sticking, hacking & running over goalies and on & on-- if the refs don't make the calls, things will not improve--and then this dumb no checking rule will become reality. :cry:
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Judging by the way Team Canada slapped the Americans all over the ice last night, not only should they not be thinking about eliminating checking until bantams, they should be looking into introducing it at the squirt level. Does anybody know if Team USA got the memo before last night's "game" that checking was, in fact, allowed at the Jr. Championships? Holy cripes, it was like watching the Gophers play hockey.
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http://usahockey.cachefly.net/Meetings/ ... ouncil.pdf

P. 3

I understand I'm in the minority here, but I'm still okay with it. I love the fact that body contact is allowed at younger ages.

Now I need to see the definition of body contact to make sure I understand that, but there is no move to remove physical play from the game. Overt checking, yes. But not rubs, leans, and positional use of your body.
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Post by sorno82 »

There is probably a direct correlation to the face mask requirement and the increase in serious head and neck injuries. I would also look at changing the shoulder pad design to focus on protection from pucks, but not give them protection so they can make football like hits.

Get rid of the full face mask and change the design of the shoulder pads and you might achieve a better outcome.

No one will do this, but I think it is an obvious solution.
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Post by the_juiceman »

O-townClown wrote:http://usahockey.cachefly.net/Meetings/ ... ouncil.pdf

P. 3

I understand I'm in the minority here, but I'm still okay with it. I love the fact that body contact is allowed at younger ages.

Now I need to see the definition of body contact to make sure I understand that, but there is no move to remove physical play from the game. Overt checking, yes. But not rubs, leans, and positional use of your body.
I think they call that Girls Hockey
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Post by Bronc »

O-townClown wrote:http://usahockey.cachefly.net/Meetings/ ... ouncil.pdf

P. 3

I understand I'm in the minority here, but I'm still okay with it. I love the fact that body contact is allowed at younger ages.

Now I need to see the definition of body contact to make sure I understand that, but there is no move to remove physical play from the game. Overt checking, yes. But not rubs, leans, and positional use of your body.
OVERT CHECKING?

If it is clean it is clean, we don't have a check power meter.

Keep shots off he head and back, but if you check hard and not a charge it is ok. WEAK skating players cannot be rewarded and given a "FALSE SENSE OF SUCCESS"!!!
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Post by O-townClown »

Bronc wrote:OVERT CHECKING?

If it is clean it is clean, we don't have a check power meter.

Keep shots off he head and back, but if you check hard and not a charge it is ok. WEAK skating players cannot be rewarded and given a "FALSE SENSE OF SUCCESS"!!!
When the rule change goes through if it is clean it will be a penalty. No checking, just contact.

I think you are wrong. If you check hard it will not be okay. For Pee Wees.
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elliott70 wrote:
old goalie85 wrote:81a & b I would be in favor of. [Tag up offsides] who do I e-mail?
recommend defeat is what the report says.

email USAH rules and youth council members (125- 175 people)**
email ALL MH board members (27 or 28 people)*

** these people vote
* only a few that are USAH board people vote but all can shout (well at least one of us does).
http://www.usahockey.com//Footer/FooterContactUS.aspx

Okay, I couldn't find a rules or youth council list on that national list, would that be the list for each state?
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DMom wrote:
elliott70 wrote:
old goalie85 wrote:81a & b I would be in favor of. [Tag up offsides] who do I e-mail?
recommend defeat is what the report says.

email USAH rules and youth council members (125- 175 people)**
email ALL MH board members (27 or 28 people)*

** these people vote
* only a few that are USAH board people vote but all can shout (well at least one of us does).
http://www.usahockey.com//Footer/FooterContactUS.aspx

Okay, I couldn't find a rules or youth council list on that national list, would that be the list for each state?
I believe you have to go to the annual guide and then to directories and it will list the various councils and cimmittees. I believe the board of directors sit on each council as ex-officio but have power.
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observer wrote:Regarding the proposed change in checking.

Totally crazy, dangerous, and not very insightful. Very disappointed in leadership on this one. They really need to pick up their game and focus on real solutions. Coaching camps, clinics, videos, roving experts from USA Hockey. It's disappointing because I'm not seeing the necessary activity from USA Hockey. Extremely weak decision making.

It was mentioned one of the primary reasons is declining numbers and registration revenue, after Squirts, is due, it's suspected, because of checking. Wrong. It's because checking wasn't taught properly at the Squirt level so the players are prepared for PeeWee. The first few PeeWee games for a small first player probably are scary as he's usually totally unprepared.

The declining revenue and numbers situation should be addressed through recruiting new players to the game only.

If it's a liability issue shame on leadership for not providing instruction. The injuries will be worse and more frequent waiting for bantam to introduce checking to the game. PeeWee players all kind of learn together. At bantam some will be very good at it (the football players and those coached by smart coaches) and other will be toast. Squished.

Are they even paying attention to the way the game is evolving? Even in the NHL it's now about passing, puck control and staying out of the box.

The refs can play a huge role too. Make the calls and things change quickly. Skate to the bench before the game and politely explain to both teams how you call things and then stick to it. Hands high, hits to the head, unnecessary "finishing", etc. You're in charge, take control. Help with the instruction by talking with the coaches and the players before the game. Be leaders.
Well stated. The hockey world is not willing to admit that it has a referee problem. If the current rules were called consistently, and correctly at all levels the concerns would be taken care of.
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