Eden Prairie vs. Hill-Murray

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Who will win

Hill-Murray
15
34%
Eden Prairie
29
66%
 
Total votes: 44

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Pioneerprideguy wrote:
54fighting wrote:Hill should be deeper than EP, but they aren't. EP's first line was much better than Hill's but you could not say that about Hill's 2nd and 3rd lines. If they were better than EP's it was not by much. The difference is the D. EP's D were much better than Hill's.
Hill Murray has 11 kids on the roster that at some point have made it to NY in the USA advanced program plus another that was an alternate. No other program comes close. Still they are just a good team, not a great team. They should be better than they are. We will see if they get there.
It's like saying a kid played on a AAA team during the off-season. These kids may not be the best kids, but their parents were willing to pay the money for the kid to participate. These "11" kids are not the best kids for their age group, but good enough to participate and their parents opted to pay for the experience. Hill's roster is not full of a bunch of superstar hockey players that are gonna be hounded by D1 scouts. Their strength is that their "bottom" is still strong and not a liability. There are no great teams any more, but several very good teams, and HM is one of them.
True! These kids seem to be cursed when they go to Hill Murray.......... Very few D-1 in the last 5-10 years. Even Forest Lake, being an "average program", has put out more D-1 talent the last few years. :D
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MrBoDangles wrote:
Pioneerprideguy wrote:
54fighting wrote:Hill should be deeper than EP, but they aren't. EP's first line was much better than Hill's but you could not say that about Hill's 2nd and 3rd lines. If they were better than EP's it was not by much. The difference is the D. EP's D were much better than Hill's.
Hill Murray has 11 kids on the roster that at some point have made it to NY in the USA advanced program plus another that was an alternate. No other program comes close. Still they are just a good team, not a great team. They should be better than they are. We will see if they get there.
It's like saying a kid played on a AAA team during the off-season. These kids may not be the best kids, but their parents were willing to pay the money for the kid to participate. These "11" kids are not the best kids for their age group, but good enough to participate and their parents opted to pay for the experience. Hill's roster is not full of a bunch of superstar hockey players that are gonna be hounded by D1 scouts. Their strength is that their "bottom" is still strong and not a liability. There are no great teams any more, but several very good teams, and HM is one of them.
True! These kids seem to be cursed when they go to Hill Murray.......... Very few D-1 in the last 5-10 years. Even Forest Lake, being an "average program", has put out more D-1 talent the last few years. :D
What did those FL D1 players think of their state tournament experience? FL had 3 last yr I believe & HM had 1. Seems to me Lex is doing more with less. :wink:
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True! These kids seem to be cursed when they go to Hill Murray.......... Very few D-1 in the last 5-10 years. Even Forest Lake, being an "average program", has put out more D-1 talent the last few years. :D
I'd say this is a pretty fair number in the last 5-10 years :D

Jay Cascalenda (2004), Minnesota-Duluth
Steve Czech (2000), Minnesota-Duluth
Bo Dolan (2008), R.P.I.
Ryan Furne (2008), Michigan Tech
Gabe Guentzel (2006), Colorado College
Ryan Guentzel (2005), Notre Dame
Mike Hoeffel (2006), Minnesota
Brian Kaufman (2002) Miami-Ohio
Nick Larson (2007), Minnesota
Mike Phillippi (2005),Nebraska-Omaha
Garrett Regan (2003), Notre Dame
Bryant Skarda (2006), Army
Dan Sova (2008), Michigan Tech
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Don't forget Casto (2010) MN Duluth
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Pioneerprideguy wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
Pioneerprideguy wrote: It's like saying a kid played on a AAA team during the off-season. These kids may not be the best kids, but their parents were willing to pay the money for the kid to participate. These "11" kids are not the best kids for their age group, but good enough to participate and their parents opted to pay for the experience. Hill's roster is not full of a bunch of superstar hockey players that are gonna be hounded by D1 scouts. Their strength is that their "bottom" is still strong and not a liability. There are no great teams any more, but several very good teams, and HM is one of them.
True! These kids seem to be cursed when they go to Hill Murray.......... Very few D-1 in the last 5-10 years. Even Forest Lake, being an "average program", has put out more D-1 talent the last few years. :D
What did those FL D1 players think of their state tournament experience? FL had 3 last yr I believe & HM had 1. Seems to me Lex is doing more with less. :wink:
They would rather pass on the fake route. =; :wink:
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Wasn't aware there was a "fake route" thru section 7. All Flake had to do was beat a few public schools to get to state with those D1 guys. Instead, they got spanked...in the semis....by a team that got spanked in the finals. Cursed or average? :wink:
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Pioneerprideguy wrote:Wasn't aware there was a "fake route" thru section 7. All Flake had to do was beat a few public schools to get to state with those D1 guys. Instead, they got spanked...in the semis....by a team that got spanked in the finals. Cursed or average? :wink:
Just boys that stayed true to their brothers. No fake route with them......
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MrBoDangles wrote:
Pioneerprideguy wrote:Wasn't aware there was a "fake route" thru section 7. All Flake had to do was beat a few public schools to get to state with those D1 guys. Instead, they got spanked...in the semis....by a team that got spanked in the finals. Cursed or average? :wink:
Just boys that stayed true to their brothers. No fake route with them......
East stayed true and played in the Tourney without 3 D1 players. What's Flake's excuse?
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Post by old goalie85 »

Didn't Matt Czech [Stevies brother] play D1 also ???
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Pioneerprideguy wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
Pioneerprideguy wrote:Wasn't aware there was a "fake route" thru section 7. All Flake had to do was beat a few public schools to get to state with those D1 guys. Instead, they got spanked...in the semis....by a team that got spanked in the finals. Cursed or average? :wink:
Just boys that stayed true to their brothers. No fake route with them......
East stayed true and played in the Tourney without 3 D1 players. What's Flake's excuse?
Lacked depth? Makes it all the more honorable.
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Post by Pioneerprideguy »

MrBoDangles wrote:
Pioneerprideguy wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote: Just boys that stayed true to their brothers. No fake route with them......
East stayed true and played in the Tourney without 3 D1 players. What's Flake's excuse?
Lacked depth? Makes it all the more honorable.
But I hear Flake's program is strong and Aaron is such a great coach. One would expect more with a team of 3 D1 guys and a dynamite feeder program. They should of at least score a goal in a section semi. :wink:
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HM - EP

Post by stpaul »

To answer oldgoalie85's question above: Matt Czech played 4 years of college hockey at St. John's.
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Post by keepyourheadup »

Hills success has everything to do with depth, Lechner is a fine coach but when you don't have to worry about matching up or over playing your top guys it make your job much easier. Other than the large programs Hill is one of the few schools with this advantage. No axe to grind with Hill but they cut kids every year that could play almost anywhere else.
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