AA Rankings for 2/6/11

starmvp · Post by **starmvp** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:50 pm

PuckU126 wrote:
HockeyMN1 wrote:
PuckU126 wrote: Spring Lake Park - 2, BSM - 1

Need I say more?

Nice rankings, Karl.

EP, Edina, and Wayzata would never lose to Spring Lake Park. Just goes to show how much a cupcake schedule artificially boosts a team's ranking.
I can agree with that, but BSM is still a good team. Top 10 IMO.

Yeah they are still top 10

WBLHockeyfan04 · Post by **WBLHockeyfan04** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:50 pm

PuckU126 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:Oh, isn't this going to be a fun week? It's only Tuesday and we already have mass carnage.

How long can Hill avoid the upsets that are hitting the rest of the state?
Until sections.

What luck would that be...?

I can only pray!

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:52 pm

WBLHockeyfan04 wrote:
PuckU126 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:Oh, isn't this going to be a fun week? It's only Tuesday and we already have mass carnage.

How long can Hill avoid the upsets that are hitting the rest of the state?
Until sections.

What luck would that be...?

I can only pray!

Yeah, but so does HM.

WBLHockeyfan04 · Post by **WBLHockeyfan04** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:56 pm

PuckU126 wrote:
WBLHockeyfan04 wrote:
PuckU126 wrote: Until sections.

What luck would that be...?

I can only pray!
Yeah, but so does HM.

The only problem is theirs always seem to get answered...

playerplayer1 · Post by **playerplayer1** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 10:59 pm

Minnpuck27 wrote:Any of the my top 5 teams, will beat Hill any day of the week. They are definitely better teams, just because they have lost many by no means deserves a low ranking. The lake teams are stronger than any teams in the state. Benilde could maybe be bumped down to two or three, but I do not believe Hill is as good as everyone thinks.
Time will tell

I guess it didn't take much time, did it Minnpuck? Let's see, Spring Lake Park 11-11, NSP 12-8-1. Similar teams, similar records.
SLP 2
BSM 1

Hill 9
NSP 0
How good are u looking now? Hill would beat SLP 9-0 too!

pipersniper12 · Post by **pipersniper12** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:08 pm

playerplayer1 wrote:
Minnpuck27 wrote:Any of the my top 5 teams, will beat Hill any day of the week. They are definitely better teams, just because they have lost many by no means deserves a low ranking. The lake teams are stronger than any teams in the state. Benilde could maybe be bumped down to two or three, but I do not believe Hill is as good as everyone thinks.
Time will tell
I guess it didn't take much time, did it Minnpuck? Let's see, Spring Lake Park 11-11, NSP 12-8-1. Similar teams, similar records.
SLP 2
BSM 1

Hill 9
NSP 0
How good are u looking now? Hill would beat SLP 9-0 too!

I can seriously see HM beating SLP in running time. Yes, HM is a better team then BSM but BSM is still a quality team. They need to tighten up their defense and goaltending. I feel BSM should be in the 8-11 range. They are not part of the top 5 'elite' teams this year.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:09 pm

WBLHockeyfan04 wrote:
PuckU126 wrote:
WBLHockeyfan04 wrote: I can only pray!
Yeah, but so does HM.

The only problem is theirs always seem to get answered...

They have the St Paul Monastery as their neighbor so yeah, they are.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:11 pm

playerplayer1 wrote:
Minnpuck27 wrote:Any of the my top 5 teams, will beat Hill any day of the week. They are definitely better teams, just because they have lost many by no means deserves a low ranking. The lake teams are stronger than any teams in the state. Benilde could maybe be bumped down to two or three, but I do not believe Hill is as good as everyone thinks.
Time will tell
I guess it didn't take much time, did it Minnpuck? Let's see, Spring Lake Park 11-11, NSP 12-8-1. Similar teams, similar records.
SLP 2
BSM 1

Hill 9
NSP 0
How good are u looking now? Hill would beat SLP 9-0 too!

Minnpuck is sleeping with the fishes.

As well as BSM's chances of being #1.

crosscheck20 · Post by **crosscheck20** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:21 am

now that tonka and bsm lost..would they move down in the rankings?

rhino06 · Post by **rhino06** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:24 am

Before we start getting rid of them and putting them 8-11, we do have to realize that they did beat Hill and beat tonka early in the season. They still can beat the top 5 elite teams. i think they deserve 6 or 7

shakey · Post by **shakey** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:29 am

crosscheck20 wrote:now that tonka and bsm lost..would they move down in the rankings?

By the time Karl tries to sort this out again, Tonka will have lost again twice (Edina & EP) and BSM once (SSM).

The Greatness · Post by **The Greatness** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:34 am

bsm i think should not be top five but there is no way they can be so far back in the rankings as 8-11. their wins against top teams, even if it was at the start, gives them reason to be 6 or 7. the win against Moorhead is a recent example. The upsets this year has made it a fun one! cant wait to see what happens in 6AA this year

playerplayer1 · Post by **playerplayer1** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:35 am

As of now this is how I see it.
Hill, EP, Wayzata, Maple Grove, Tonka, BSM, Edina, Bville, Rapids, East

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:37 am

shakey wrote:
crosscheck20 wrote:now that tonka and bsm lost..would they move down in the rankings?
By the time Karl tries to sort this out again, Tonka will have lost again twice (Edina & EP) and BSM once (SSM).

A loss to SSM is not really taken into consideration ever in a season. Its more like a no lose situation.

The loss doesn't go on their regular season record as well.

shakey · Post by **shakey** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 8:59 am

PuckU126 wrote:
shakey wrote:
crosscheck20 wrote:now that tonka and bsm lost..would they move down in the rankings?
By the time Karl tries to sort this out again, Tonka will have lost again twice (Edina & EP) and BSM once (SSM).
A loss to SSM is not really taken into consideration ever in a season. Its more like a no lose situation.

The loss doesn't go on their regular season record as well.

I know - just amusing myself by predicting another BSM loss. This team has been overrated most of the season.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:44 am

shakey wrote:
PuckU126 wrote:
shakey wrote: By the time Karl tries to sort this out again, Tonka will have lost again twice (Edina & EP) and BSM once (SSM).
A loss to SSM is not really taken into consideration ever in a season. Its more like a no lose situation.

The loss doesn't go on their regular season record as well.

I know - just amusing myself by predicting another BSM loss. This team has been overrated most of the season.

True on the up coming loss, SSM's offense will show.. I think.

And BSM was ranked where they should have been. With some good wins, good record; however, somewhat of a soft schedule (easy pickings) will place a team high. This loss, a heart-breaker, just showed they are vulnerable. I still think they are a top 10 team, but not the best in the state.

mulefarm · Post by **mulefarm** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:10 pm

Why doesn't a win or loss against SSM go on BSM or AHA record?

HockeyMN1 · Post by **HockeyMN1** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:17 pm

I've never wavered on this all year, the top four teams in the state are and always have been EP, Edina, Hill, and Wayzata. With the exception of Hill all these teams play brutal schedules, the toughest in the state. They beat up on each other a little bit but that shouldn't drop them below teams like Maple Grove or Tonka who we all know don't have the talent or depth to match the real top 4. The winner of state will come from this group and they all have about an equal shot.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:18 pm

mulefarm wrote:Why doesn't a win or loss against SSM go on BSM or AHA record?

It does. Just as it has the past years for Holy Angels, Breck last year and St Thomas this year. Not sure why it wouldn't.

playerplayer1 · Post by **playerplayer1** » Wed Feb 09, 2011 10:20 pm

HockeyMN1 wrote:I've never wavered on this all year, the top four teams in the state are and always have been EP, Edina, Hill, and Wayzata. With the exception of Hill all these teams play brutal schedules, the toughest in the state. They beat up on each other a little bit but that shouldn't drop them below teams like Maple Grove or Tonka who we all know don't have the talent or depth to match the real top 4. The winner of state will come from this group and they all have about an equal shot.

Disagree. Any of the top 12 teams could win it all this year. If there is going to be a year someone not in the top 5 wins it all this would be the year.

Post by **karl(east)** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 9:39 pm

Notes on a night of Lake Conference channel-surfing on FSN Prep Zone:

-The win over Tonka was the best game I've seen Edina play this year. Instead of sitting back, they went on the attack and went after Tonka's weakness (defense). Their own defense didn't suffer for it, either. Giles was juggling players around all game, but it worked; they got stronger as the game went on and played a relatively clean game. But if Everson is out for any length of time, that would be a huge blow.

-Tonka lacked the balance they displayed in their first game against the Hornets. Edina attacked and exposed them, and though they gave it a good run, they definitely seemed a step behind the Hornets.

-EP was the Rau show tonight, but all in all it's hard to find much to critique. They had some great PKs.

-Wayzata, on the other hand, looked flat. They were better when they broke up Lucia and Cameranesi. The line looks flashy, but the chemistry isn't great, and I don't think Klein's talents are used well when he's out there with the two of them. There's too much talent on the PP for it to look as sloppy as it did.

AlterEagle · Post by **AlterEagle** » Thu Feb 10, 2011 10:14 pm

karl(east) wrote:-Wayzata, on the other hand, looked flat. They were better when they broke up Lucia and Cameranesi. The line looks flashy, but the chemistry isn't great, and I don't think Klein's talents are used well when he's out there with the two of them. There's too much talent on the PP for it to look as sloppy as it did.

I think they do have chemistry - they're just in a valley right now (remember how well this line did the 1st half of the year?).

bsmguy · Post by **bsmguy** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:49 am

Karl:

Good Luck this week. I think you should just throw the top team names in a hat and draw them out at random.

PuckU126 · Post by **PuckU126** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:59 pm

bsmguy wrote:Karl:

Good Luck this week. I think you should just throw the top team names in a hat and draw them out at random.

Yeah, and try to finish before HShockeywatcher this time!

Don't flake-out on us.

Blaze · Post by **Blaze** » Sat Feb 12, 2011 9:05 pm

HockeyMN1 wrote:I've never wavered on this all year, the top four teams in the state are and always have been EP, Edina, Hill, and Wayzata. With the exception of Hill all these teams play brutal schedules, the toughest in the state. They beat up on each other a little bit but that shouldn't drop them below teams like Maple Grove or Tonka who we all know don't have the talent or depth to match the real top 4. The winner of state will come from this group and they all have about an equal shot.

So how is that you came about your decision that both Minnetonka and Maple Grove lack the depth and talent to play with your top four? IMO it's a pretty unfair statement to make!!! Especially since there really isn’t a clear cut favorite this year...

The real top 4...I love that one!!!

I guess will all find out soon enough with the sections and state tourney looming around the corner.