This is the playoffs....its game on for these kids....I can see relaxing a little during the regular season, but telling these kids to scale back against anyone is sending the wrong message during sectionals or any tourney. I would say the same even on the wrong end of a lopsided score such as this.
Next year will be a different story for Hill Murray...they will be lucky to get to the final in the section.
On to a different point, I checked out "strength of schedule" rankings on this site and Hill Murray is 25th...hard to believe with all the ranked teams they played this year.
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youngblood08
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what about some of the other teams that ran up the score. wayzata beat cooper 13-0, st cloud catherdal beats st michael-albetville 16-1, and warrod beats kittson central 15-0 and no one says a thing. give it a rest. at sections you don't hold back. como should be a jv program, they are terrible and it makes high school hockey look bad.
Jeez, have some compassion for Django. It must be pretty hard to keep track of who's on each line when down by double digitssllek wrote:Just for the record django, LaValle is not first line, he's second. The first line is Bahe, Bruski and Guentzel. Anyone who was at the game and saw the third period could see that Hill was making little or no effort to score. The goal was a soft flip from the point man that went in.
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hockeyhockeyhockey
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hockeyhockeyhockey
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r u nutz? hill will be better next year...extower wrote:This is the playoffs....its game on for these kids....I can see relaxing a little during the regular season, but telling these kids to scale back against anyone is sending the wrong message during sectionals or any tourney. I would say the same even on the wrong end of a lopsided score such as this.
Next year will be a different story for Hill Murray...they will be lucky to get to the final in the section.
On to a different point, I checked out "strength of schedule" rankings on this site and Hill Murray is 25th...hard to believe with all the ranked teams they played this year.
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hockeyhockeyhockey
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if the 4th line played the entire 3rd period they would have scored 5 more goals as they get less chances to shine all year..putting in line 1 held the scoring WAY down..they knew not to score at all...Django wrote:When the CDH football team gets up by 40 pts, the starters come out and never return. When the Hopkins basketball team gets up by 40, the starters will still be playing. My point is that some coaches handle the lopsided games with more grace than others. I would have liked to see the 3rd and 4th lines play the whole 3rd period. The first 2 lines get plenty of ice time. Give your subs more playing time when you can afford to.
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hockeyhockeyhockey
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To you guys who say they shouldn't be playing varsity:
You seem to lose track of something. These are high school kids, student athletes, who play hockey because they love it. That's a good thing isn't it?
This school hardly has enough tryouts to form a team (no one is cut) They aren't the worst team in the state. They are rated 134 out of 156. So should they be banned from playing? Should we ban the bottom 20, 30, 40 teams? I thought we all wanted to grow the sport. Shouldn't we be proud of them for doing their best.
Each of you, what would you say to these kids? "you suck ... You should quit?", or "hang in there, have fun, and do your best as a student and athlete"
To you guys who say they shouldn't be playing varsity:
You seem to lose track of something. These are high school kids, student athletes, who play hockey because they love it. That's a good thing isn't it?
This school hardly has enough tryouts to form a team (no one is cut) They aren't the worst team in the state. They are rated 134 out of 156. So should they be banned from playing? Should we ban the bottom 20, 30, 40 teams? I thought we all wanted to grow the sport. Shouldn't we be proud of them for doing their best.
Each of you, what would you say to these kids? "you suck ... You should quit?", or "hang in there, have fun, and do your best as a student and athlete"
But you want Hill Murray to quit?Django wrote:Forum
To you guys who say they shouldn't be playing varsity:
You seem to lose track of something. These are high school kids, student athletes, who play hockey because they love it. That's a good thing isn't it?
This school hardly has enough tryouts to form a team (no one is cut) They aren't the worst team in the state. They are rated 134 out of 156. So should they be banned from playing? Should we ban the bottom 20, 30, 40 teams? I thought we all wanted to grow the sport. Shouldn't we be proud of them for doing their best.
Each of you, what would you say to these kids? "you suck ... You should quit?", or "hang in there, have fun, and do your best as a student and athlete"
Go Hounds.
Yea, and if I was a first liner who had busted my ass all year to get this spot in the playoffs, I would have been pissed my coach benched me because because the team sucked. You think these games are limitless, that you can play high school hockey forever. You cant. You only have a certain number of games EVER that you can lace them up for your school, whether it be 50 or 25 or even just 1. Playoff games are even less. If you played varsity as a freshman, and made it to state twice, losing in semi-finals once, and losing in finals, thats 15 high school playoff games. Ever. Period. Once they are done they are done. No getting them back. Compared to all the games over a lifetime, thats what, 5% of the games youll ever play in? And you are asking these kids to WASTE some of that small percentage of playoff games they ever get? Its playoff hockey in MN. Go Big, Go Home, or take cheap shots.MN93 wrote: BELIEVE ME, I'm no St. Thomas fan, but in their game vs. Simley their first line didn't even come out of the locker room after the first period; maybe just a symbolic gesture, but to me that shows some class-- they won 9-0 and everyone knows it could have been 20-0.
Go Hounds.
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It is time for the high school league to combine Como with Johnson as they are in youth hockey. Minnesota High school league just looks at the number of kids in the school not how many play each sport. In the inter city there are some problems with numbers in school deciding what level you should play in. I noticed that Johnson ended up with 12 wins and 12 losses in class "A" and they can't compete with many of the private schools. The Minnesota high school league needs to take their blinders off. Remember when people use to live in the inter-city, things have changed.
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I'm a WBL fan, so Hill is not my favorite team by any means. But I do have to say this, Hill did not run up the score. They showed as much class as possible. The score could have been 40 to 0. If you want to blame sombody for the score, blame the MSHSL for allowing this to happen. Como should not have been allowed to play that game. They really need to be in single A. where they have a chance to win at least a game or 2 in sections. Hill skated thier 3rd and 4th line evenly with the other lines if not more. And how do you tell lines that normally never see mcuh ice time not to score when they do get on the ice. Lechtner does have class.
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backofnet is correct. im also wbl fan so not a lot a love for hill, but you cannot just play one line the entire third period. so the first, second...lines must play. and you can't just play keep away, that is almost worse for the other team imo.
i do hope it translates to future karma trouble in semis or finals for the pioneers tho...haha
backofnet is correct. im also wbl fan so not a lot a love for hill, but you cannot just play one line the entire third period. so the first, second...lines must play. and you can't just play keep away, that is almost worse for the other team imo.
i do hope it translates to future karma trouble in semis or finals for the pioneers tho...haha
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It's post like that from WBL people that make the HM/WBL rivalry what it is. We dislike each other's program,but yet, have enough respect to defend the other when people take unnecessary shots. Like brothers, we want to beat the hell out of each other, but have a problem when someone from the outside tries to jump in. I've said it for many years, I want HM to go to State every year, but if they don't, my preference is for WBL to go. Don't get me wrong, I'd be pulling for them to lose at State.
Pioneerprideguy wrote:It's post like that from WBL people that make the HM/WBL rivalry what it is. We dislike each other's program,but yet, have enough respect to defend the other when people take unnecessary shots. Like brothers, we want to beat the hell out of each other, but have a problem when someone from the outside tries to jump in. I've said it for many years, I want HM to go to State every year, but if they don't, my preference is for WBL to go. Don't get me wrong, I'd be pulling for them to lose at State.
We hate each other but still have respect for the other team
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At some point, sportsmanship is about more than goals. Did Hill have extended celebrations after goals? Were there penalties or non-calls that showed a lack of class? Was the atmosphere at the rink crazed? I am guessing that the answer to each of the questions is ~ no.
No one likes the lopsided match-ups, much less players and coaches. But you play the cards you are dealt, and learn from the experience. I've played in some of these games, won some and lost some, and there was nothing worse than being toyed with. I'd rather have an opponent go hard to the net, than play keep away, turn their sticks over, or pass up open opportunities.
My preparation for a game has to be accounted for, also. If I have a preconceived notion of what the end result will be, then maybe its on me to make the call to forfeit the game. Once I'm on the playing field ~ Game On!
No one likes the lopsided match-ups, much less players and coaches. But you play the cards you are dealt, and learn from the experience. I've played in some of these games, won some and lost some, and there was nothing worse than being toyed with. I'd rather have an opponent go hard to the net, than play keep away, turn their sticks over, or pass up open opportunities.
My preparation for a game has to be accounted for, also. If I have a preconceived notion of what the end result will be, then maybe its on me to make the call to forfeit the game. Once I'm on the playing field ~ Game On!
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drop the puck
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Ridiculous to blame this on HM. They are kids and have respect for the game of hockey so they go out on the ice, take the face off, pass the puck and shoot. It's not their fault that Como cannot play basic fundamentals of hockey.
The problem is Como. What a sad ending to a once proud HS hockey team. The best thing for them to do is scrap their HS Hockey program and the kids can form a Junior Gold B team (they would get destroyed in the JR Gold A level).
The problem is Como. What a sad ending to a once proud HS hockey team. The best thing for them to do is scrap their HS Hockey program and the kids can form a Junior Gold B team (they would get destroyed in the JR Gold A level).
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