Most surprising and Most disappointing teams in 2010-2011

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Who gets the nod as most disappointing team of the year?

Century
5
7%
Roseau
25
36%
AHA
27
39%
East Grand Forks
1
1%
Other
11
16%
 
Total votes: 69

218er
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Post by 218er »

wblhockeyfan8 wrote:
218er wrote:Not just this year, but I can't believe how much the White Bear Lake's program has fallen. They used to dominate youth programs and would loose kids to private schools... Now their Bantam A team loses games to highland park, and their high school team is never even in the running to get back to the tourney.

Also, I'm surprised the Brainerd has never been able to put together a decent hockey program. That is a big town and they don't run the risk of losing kids to surrounding communities. I guess it’s just not a hockey town, but with the enrollment the have you'd think they make some noise one of these years. Glad to see they finally produced a D-1 prospect.
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Feeling a little sheepish... Not gunna lie. Congrats to WBL. But enjoy it... doesn't sound like the future is too bright coming up from the Bantams
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Post by Duluth 4 »

how is Little Falls not being mentioned here, the 1 seed, a state frequenter losing to a #9 seed? Come on now.
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Post by sachishi4 »

I know it sounds bad, but this year has to be disappointing for HM. I think there was one goal in mind, and not to even make state makes this year a loss.
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Post by GordonBombay99 »

Duluth 4 wrote:how is Little Falls not being mentioned here, the 1 seed, a state frequenter losing to a #9 seed? Come on now.
I would definitely agree with that.
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Post by sachishi4 »

HockeyMN1 wrote:Hill Murray has to be on the disappointing list. You can't just lose in sections like that with all the hype and talent. Should have played a harder schedule if possible.
did you see their non conference schedule? Point out on cupcake on there.
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Post by HockeyMN1 »

sachishi4 wrote:
HockeyMN1 wrote:Hill Murray has to be on the disappointing list. You can't just lose in sections like that with all the hype and talent. Should have played a harder schedule if possible.
did you see their non conference schedule? Point out on cupcake on there.
Which is why I said if possible...either go independent for hockey or change conferences. That's what doomed them, not playing multiple tough games week in and week out. It's also what got them a number 1 regular season ranking but that doesn't mean much now.
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Post by sachishi4 »

making it to state 5 years in a row ,one title, a 3rd (almost beating tonka last year), a 4th, one heartbreaking loss to eventual champ EP with a team missing 4 of its best players, and only one bad year shows that they are fine with how they schedule. the classic suburban works for all of their other sports, hockey is one exception. They dont have the convenience of being on the other side of MPLS for the lake conference, which is the only one they could join so people would stop complaining.
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Post by HockeyMN1 »

sachishi4 wrote:making it to state 5 years in a row ,one title, a 3rd (almost beating tonka last year), a 4th, one heartbreaking loss to eventual champ EP with a team missing 4 of its best players, and only one bad year shows that they are fine with how they schedule. the classic suburban works for all of their other sports, hockey is one exception. They dont have the convenience of being on the other side of MPLS for the lake conference, which is the only one they could join so people would stop complaining.
I'm not complaining, just stating my opinion. Is it possible to go independent just for hockey? Because that would certainly help their program. I'm sure the other CSC schools wouldn't mind either, let someone else take a conference title home.
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Post by zamboni14 »

Disappointment- have to go with HM on this one. With how they finished last season and then being #1... to losing to WBL in the section final (even though they were the 2 seed) is WAY short of their goal. Even if Edina lost to Burnsville in their section final, it wouldn't be as bad. As a #1 team, you should be a "lock" at least to MAKE the state tournament. Which brings up a question... anyone know the last time the #1 ranked team in the state didn't make the state tournament?

Surprise- if HM was a disappointment, how could WBL being in the state tournament this year NOT be a surprise?!
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Post by PuckU126 »

I recall Apple Valley a few years back being ranked #1 but fell to AHA in the section finals. I cannot recall the year though.. Help?

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Post by EHSHack »

HockeyMN1 wrote:
sachishi4 wrote:making it to state 5 years in a row ,one title, a 3rd (almost beating tonka last year), a 4th, one heartbreaking loss to eventual champ EP with a team missing 4 of its best players, and only one bad year shows that they are fine with how they schedule. the classic suburban works for all of their other sports, hockey is one exception. They dont have the convenience of being on the other side of MPLS for the lake conference, which is the only one they could join so people would stop complaining.
I'm not complaining, just stating my opinion. Is it possible to go independent just for hockey? Because that would certainly help their program. I'm sure the other CSC schools wouldn't mind either, let someone else take a conference title home.
Duluth East is independent for baseball and hockey. They were for football this year too, but only temporarily because the conference dissolved.
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Post by karl(east) »

PuckU126 wrote:I recall Apple Valley a few years back being ranked #1 but fell to AHA in the section finals. I cannot recall the year though.. Help?

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It was the other way around (AV over #1 AHA), and it was in 2006.
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Post by PuckU126 »

karl(east) wrote:
PuckU126 wrote:I recall Apple Valley a few years back being ranked #1 but fell to AHA in the section finals. I cannot recall the year though.. Help?

8)
It was the other way around (AV over #1 AHA), and it was in 2006.
Really? I wonder why I thought the opposite?

Thanks, Karl.

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PuckU126 wrote:
karl(east) wrote:
PuckU126 wrote:I recall Apple Valley a few years back being ranked #1 but fell to AHA in the section finals. I cannot recall the year though.. Help?

8)
It was the other way around (AV over #1 AHA), and it was in 2006.
Really? I wonder why I thought the opposite?

Thanks, Karl.

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I was close!

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Post by zamboni14 »

karl(east) wrote:
PuckU126 wrote:I recall Apple Valley a few years back being ranked #1 but fell to AHA in the section finals. I cannot recall the year though.. Help?

8)
It was the other way around (AV over #1 AHA), and it was in 2006.
thanks for the answer... I mean, thanks for the CORRECT answer :P

so it's been a good 5 years since it happened last. That seals it for me as the "disappointment of the season."
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Post by GordonBombay99 »

Lakeville South, Hill Murray and Little Falls have to be considered disappointing just because of how favored they were in their sections and then to lose and not make it to state has to be disappointing.
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Post by MNpuck14 »

fivehole628 wrote:Most Disappointing-

A: Mahtomedi

AA: Academy of Holy Angels


Most Surprising-

A: Willmar

AA: Eagan
I agree. And Mahtomedi did have a tough season this year. They just were not as good as we expected them to be. And one reason is Marshall leaving Mahtomedi to go play at Omaha. But next season I wouldn't count the Zephyrs out with STA considering opting-up. They have some sophmore (juniors next year) that will help the team out. Also the senior line next year that will most likely consist of Tanner Jordan, Patrick Kelgey, and Johno May will put up a lot of points. If St. Thomas moves up, I see Mahtomedi going to state next year.
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Re: Brainerd D-1's

Post by Mite-dad »

Skip_per wrote:I think some of you are mistaken.
Brainerd has produced a number of D1 kids unfortunately just not mulitples at the same time.
Carl Sneep - went to Boston College and won a Ntl Champ his Sr year there.
Drew Olson is playing for UMD Bull Dogs right now.

Yes Chris Peluso

JP Platisha went to UNO

Ryan Peltoma is at Bowling Green as of now.

So please give us some credit.

And yes we have some competition.

Northern Lakes takes some kids from us as does Little Falls.
Kids do not all come to Brainerd.

Peace
I too would like to know who LF has gotten from Brainerd. LF doesn't get kids from anywhere but LF. Occasionally a kid from a nearby farm town.

That said I think LF was both a surprise and a disappointment. I don't think anyone thought they would win 20 games this year. In fact their team goal was 15 wins this year. Once they started having success however, they disappointed in the section tournament in a big way.
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Re: Brainerd D-1's

Post by GordonBombay99 »

Mite-dad wrote:
Skip_per wrote:I think some of you are mistaken.
Brainerd has produced a number of D1 kids unfortunately just not mulitples at the same time.
Carl Sneep - went to Boston College and won a Ntl Champ his Sr year there.
Drew Olson is playing for UMD Bull Dogs right now.

Yes Chris Peluso

JP Platisha went to UNO

Ryan Peltoma is at Bowling Green as of now.

So please give us some credit.

And yes we have some competition.

Northern Lakes takes some kids from us as does Little Falls.
Kids do not all come to Brainerd.

Peace
I too would like to know who LF has gotten from Brainerd. LF doesn't get kids from anywhere but LF. Occasionally a kid from a nearby farm town.

That said I think LF was both a surprise and a disappointment. I don't think anyone thought they would win 20 games this year. In fact their team goal was 15 wins this year. Once they started having success however, they disappointed in the section tournament in a big way.
Little Falls also beat some very good teams too this year which added to their success this year in terms of winning games.
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Post by edinahornetkid24 »

218er wrote:Not just this year, but I can't believe how much the White Bear Lake's program has fallen. They used to dominate youth programs and would loose kids to private schools... Now their Bantam A team loses games to highland park, and their high school team is never even in the running to get back to the tourney.

Also, I'm surprised the Brainerd has never been able to put together a decent hockey program. That is a big town and they don't run the risk of losing kids to surrounding communities. I guess it’s just not a hockey town, but with the enrollment the have you'd think they make some noise one of these years. Glad to see they finally produced a D-1 prospect.
Ironic that you say that and then their high school team makes the tourney
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Post by Getemupscout »

This has to be Hill Murray , second place would need to go to Apple Valley.
Both at state last year with a ton returnees .
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Post by DmanDad1980 »

AA - Roseau, AHA, Maple Grove, Hill, Wayzata*, BSM*

A - Little Falls & East Grand Forks

* - Make exception for tough section

Based on what was being talked about early in season...
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Post by GordonBombay99 »

Getemupscout wrote:This has to be Hill Murray , second place would need to go to Apple Valley.
Both at state last year with a ton returnees .
Apple Valley not so much I think just because of how good Eagan is this year.
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Post by northwoods oldtimer »

MNHockey75 wrote:Surprising:
Willmar -- One win away from glory.
Proctor -- Didn't see them coming.
Chisago Lakes
Hastings -- First sign of life since like 2002.
Maple Grove -- I figured they'd be good, not this good.
Minneapolis -- More teams need to combine like they did. They got hosed at the seeding meeting.
Grand Rapids -- A lot better than most people expected.

Disappointing:
Duluth Central -- Way too inconsistent.
International Falls -- Disappointed in the kids.
Faribault -- #1 seed last year.
Rochester Century
Holy Angels -- Probably the biggest disappointment.
Centennial -- Pre-season top ten that ended 1 game over .500.
Osseo -- Goaltending was an issue all season.
Brainerd -- Preseason favorite in 8AA.
Roseau -- I expected a lot more. I'm not alone.
That is a great list of teams! In additon:
Hermantown: Losing 12 seniors and regrouping like they did.....impressive!
Bloomington Jefferson: No one expected much from this group of kids and they knocked off some teams to play good spoiler role.
Bemidji: Put another team in section 8AA on the map.
Warroad: I know Warroad is supposed to be there every year. They really made a great run this year with very little depth.

Disappointing:
Forest Lake: They were my pick to win section 7AA.
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Post by GordonBombay99 »

northwoods oldtimer wrote:
MNHockey75 wrote:Surprising:
Willmar -- One win away from glory.
Proctor -- Didn't see them coming.
Chisago Lakes
Hastings -- First sign of life since like 2002.
Maple Grove -- I figured they'd be good, not this good.
Minneapolis -- More teams need to combine like they did. They got hosed at the seeding meeting.
Grand Rapids -- A lot better than most people expected.

Disappointing:
Duluth Central -- Way too inconsistent.
International Falls -- Disappointed in the kids.
Faribault -- #1 seed last year.
Rochester Century
Holy Angels -- Probably the biggest disappointment.
Centennial -- Pre-season top ten that ended 1 game over .500.
Osseo -- Goaltending was an issue all season.
Brainerd -- Preseason favorite in 8AA.
Roseau -- I expected a lot more. I'm not alone.
That is a great list of teams! In additon:
Hermantown: Losing 12 seniors and regrouping like they did.....impressive!
Bloomington Jefferson: No one expected much from this group of kids and they knocked off some teams to play good spoiler role.
Bemidji: Put another team in section 8AA on the map.
Warroad: I know Warroad is supposed to be there every year. They really made a great run this year with very little depth.

Disappointing:
Forest Lake: They were my pick to win section 7AA.
I definitely agree with Hermantown, kind of forgot how much they lost from last year.
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