hunting247 wrote:Good call to everyone who said the 98 Mn Edge could compete at the elite level. Not winning a single game, only 5 GF and 22 GA. must have been a long car ride home.
Nice sportsmanship, why even post something like this? The only thing they can do now is learn from this and use it as motivation. At least they were willing to enter the tournament.
Why enter a tournament above your competition level?
I'm willing to enter my peewee team in the NHL playoffs, but that doesn't make it a good idea.
The Other Bash Brother wrote:Why enter a tournament above your competition level?
Oh I don't know, maybe to see where they stand against that type of competition. Everyone always says you need to play higher level compeition to get better but then when someone does it they get ridiculed. Other than the games against Bauer Selects (who no one came within 5) and Blades they played two competitive games based on the scores. I would imagine there are inside stories I'm not aware of and that most who post on here have a vested interest. I don't but regardless I have also never seen a good reason for anyone to belittle what others are doing.
The 99' Blades / Machine game was a well played game, although both teams showed some wear from their semi-final games. Machine goalie was solid.
Both had hard fought battles in the semi's-
Machine beat Bauer Selects 3-2 and the MN Blades beat Detroit Little Caesars by the same score. In both games, it came down to the defense and the net minders doing their job.
Congratulations to both teams on a successful weekend.
Congrats 00 machine. Nice bit of character righting the ship after a rocky start. Sunday piece of work was awesome, shutting out the highly favored bauer selects 3-0 and then finishing the pac selects 3-1 for the ship after they put up 7 on you in the first game of the tourney. Jet and JSR I heard they will make seats want to ride the train now? Wooooooo Wooooooo!!!!!
offside14 wrote:Congrats 00 machine. Nice bit of character righting the ship after a rocky start. Sunday piece of work was awesome, shutting out the highly favored bauer selects 3-0 and then finishing the pac selects 3-1 for the ship after they put up 7 on you in the first game of the tourney. Jet and JSR I heard they will make seats want to ride the train now? Wooooooo Wooooooo!!!!!
What are you talking about? I said hopefully someone can hang and certainly they did. Nice work 00 Machine.
The Other Bash Brother wrote:Why enter a tournament above your competition level?
Oh I don't know, maybe to see where they stand against that type of competition. Everyone always says you need to play higher level compeition to get better but then when someone does it they get ridiculed. Other than the games against Bauer Selects (who no one came within 5) and Blades they played two competitive games based on the scores. I would imagine there are inside stories I'm not aware of and that most who post on here have a vested interest. I don't but regardless I have also never seen a good reason for anyone to belittle what others are doing.
Where they stand against "that" type of competition, well I could have told you they were not an elite team, but I am glad they entered into that tournament because I was sick of hearing from the players and parents how good they were and they could beat the machine and blades. Besides who in their right mind would bring a knifes to a gun fight.
The Other Bash Brother wrote:Why enter a tournament above your competition level?
Oh I don't know, maybe to see where they stand against that type of competition. Everyone always says you need to play higher level compeition to get better but then when someone does it they get ridiculed. Other than the games against Bauer Selects (who no one came within 5) and Blades they played two competitive games based on the scores. I would imagine there are inside stories I'm not aware of and that most who post on here have a vested interest. I don't but regardless I have also never seen a good reason for anyone to belittle what others are doing.
Then schedule a game or scrimmage with those teams. Don't go to an elite tournament to "see where you stand." Go to an elite tournament to be competitive.
The Other Bash Brother wrote:Why enter a tournament above your competition level?
Oh I don't know, maybe to see where they stand against that type of competition. Everyone always says you need to play higher level compeition to get better but then when someone does it they get ridiculed. Other than the games against Bauer Selects (who no one came within 5) and Blades they played two competitive games based on the scores. I would imagine there are inside stories I'm not aware of and that most who post on here have a vested interest. I don't but regardless I have also never seen a good reason for anyone to belittle what others are doing.
Then schedule a game or scrimmage with those teams. Don't go to an elite tournament to "see where you stand." Go to an elite tournament to be competitive.
the Edge scrimmaged the blades before they went to
Chicago, they lost 10-1
offside14 wrote:Congrats 00 machine. Nice bit of character righting the ship after a rocky start. Sunday piece of work was awesome, shutting out the highly favored bauer selects 3-0 and then finishing the pac selects 3-1 for the ship after they put up 7 on you in the first game of the tourney. Jet and JSR I heard they will make seats want to ride the train now? Wooooooo Wooooooo!!!!!
Seriously??? Congrats to the kids on the Machine for winning the rematch at the end of the tourney but I'd reel in the "freight train" commentary. They are a good team but you went overboard in your commentary and it was proven as such. Try enjoying the kids instead of spouting off about 10 year olds.
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The Other Bash Brother wrote:Why enter a tournament above your competition level?
Oh I don't know, maybe to see where they stand against that type of competition. Everyone always says you need to play higher level compeition to get better but then when someone does it they get ridiculed. Other than the games against Bauer Selects (who no one came within 5) and Blades they played two competitive games based on the scores. I would imagine there are inside stories I'm not aware of and that most who post on here have a vested interest. I don't but regardless I have also never seen a good reason for anyone to belittle what others are doing.
Then schedule a game or scrimmage with those teams. Don't go to an elite tournament to "see where you stand." Go to an elite tournament to be competitive.
Just going by "scores" it would seem to me then by this logic 4 of the 10 teams did not belong in this tourney including the Machine. Every single tourney out there has a champ, has some that finish middle of the pack, and some that finish last, it doesn't mean they didn't belong in that tourney. I can tell you if they had entered the AAA division they likely would have rolled to victory with ease that is how much gap there is. So what are they supposed to do, win a tourney of lesser competition or finish last in a better tourney. Or how about everyone let them make their own choice, the Shuffle does a good job of screening the teams, better than alot of tourneys, good for the Blades and Bauer Selects for being so good (oh wait, Bauer Selects beat Blades 7-2, guess Blades shouldnt' have come either, or maybe Bauer Selects need to find better competition for themselves....) but even in the world of AAA there aren't many at that level, someone has to fill out the tourney..... just my two cents.
darkhorse wrote:
Oh I don't know, maybe to see where they stand against that type of competition. Everyone always says you need to play higher level compeition to get better but then when someone does it they get ridiculed. Other than the games against Bauer Selects (who no one came within 5) and Blades they played two competitive games based on the scores. I would imagine there are inside stories I'm not aware of and that most who post on here have a vested interest. I don't but regardless I have also never seen a good reason for anyone to belittle what others are doing.
Then schedule a game or scrimmage with those teams. Don't go to an elite tournament to "see where you stand." Go to an elite tournament to be competitive.
the Edge scrimmaged the blades before they went to
Chicago, they lost 10-1
To me that is a red flag that says we can't compete with the blades and shouldn't try to play in tournaments at that level.
The Other Bash Brother wrote:
Then schedule a game or scrimmage with those teams. Don't go to an elite tournament to "see where you stand." Go to an elite tournament to be competitive.
the Edge scrimmaged the blades before they went to
Chicago, they lost 10-1
To me that is a red flag that says we can't compete with the blades and shouldn't try to play in tournaments at that level.
Don't you think it was a little late by then as I'm sure the $ were paid and they were already registered/bracketed. I say good for the Edge!! They now know what they need to work towards if they want to acheive that level of play. Good idea and decision and I'm sure they had a good time despite the L's.
It sounds as tho the machine & the blades are, by far, the top 2 teams in the state. Why anyone would want to play them is beyond me. maybe they should just play each other all summer, and see who has the best record at season's end. Do they have 2 team tournaments? You people need to get over ourselves!! let teams play the tourney's they want. who are you to say they shouldn't? it's suppose to be about the kids having fun playing hockey and about development--or is that just for the winter season?
The Other Bash Brother wrote:It probably was too late. But now I expect them to stop pretending to be an elite team.
Amen bash brother
Wow...what the puck is your problem hunting 247? Just because a team tries to step their game up a notch (or 2) they become your whipping boys for the weekend? FYI - they've beat the Icemen and a host of what I guess you would call "lesser teams" and won the Warrior Cup last year in a shoot out with the same goalie I believe that someone said gets "easily rattled". So are they supposed to keep playing and beating the same teams over and over? Pretty sure the tournament directors were more than happy to take their money. Know your facts before you run your mouth....but let me take a guess here...what team did your kid get cut from?? Congrats to the Blades for a good showing - that's a hand-picked team of Minnesota's best right there, but to say that another team had no right to be in a tourney? Not much Minnesota nice there...
Happy to see that MOST everyone here is on the same Minnesota team (as they should be). Lots of well wishes, shout outs and congrats from many on here, likely some of which with no ties to the teams they are shouting out to.
Then there are a few that come here to trash talk. Look at the poor use of words like "there" instead of "their" earlier in the forum. In those instances I would have to say it is the players posting. It is unlike most adults to be on a forum talking smack and trash about a 10-13 year old hockey team, these are likely just the players themselves? Right? (I hope.) If it is the adults, shame on you and you need to look in the mirror and grow up. Perhaps talk about how great that particular team is stacking up in school rather than idolizing what they are going to do on the ice.
On another note, good for The Edge. They are probably in between invite and open class, and a class move to play up rather than down, and forgo the easy crowd pleaser trophy to see how they stack up. What does it hurt you people who are complaining about it? Their money and program, let them decide.
snyper12 wrote:Happy to see that MOST everyone here is on the same Minnesota team (as they should be). Lots of well wishes, shout outs and congrats from many on here, likely some of which with no ties to the teams they are shouting out to.
Then there are a few that come here to trash talk. Look at the poor use of words like "there" instead of "their" earlier in the forum. In those instances I would have to say it is the players posting. It is unlike most adults to be on a forum talking smack and trash about a 10-13 year old hockey team, these are likely just the players themselves? Right? (I hope.) If it is the adults, shame on you and you need to look in the mirror and grow up. Perhaps talk about how great that particular team is stacking up in school rather than idolizing what they are going to do on the ice.
On another note, good for The Edge. They are probably in between invite and open class, and a class move to play up rather than down, and forgo the easy crowd pleaser trophy to see how they stack up. What does it hurt you people who are complaining about it? Their money and program, let them decide.
Nice 1st post
This is the first time I've seen grammar corrected right out of the gate.....you'll be a hoot
The Other Bash Brother wrote:It probably was too late. But now I expect them to stop pretending to be an elite team.
Amen bash brother
Wow...what the puck is your problem hunting 247? Just because a team tries to step their game up a notch (or 2) they become your whipping boys for the weekend? FYI - they've beat the Icemen and a host of what I guess you would call "lesser teams" and won the Warrior Cup last year in a shoot out with the same goalie I believe that someone said gets "easily rattled". So are they supposed to keep playing and beating the same teams over and over? Pretty sure the tournament directors were more than happy to take their money. Know your facts before you run your mouth....but let me take a guess here...what team did your kid get cut from?? Congrats to the Blades for a good showing - that's a hand-picked team of Minnesota's best right there, but to say that another team had no right to be in a tourney? Not much Minnesota nice there...
Wow... they beat the icemen and won the warrior cup in a shoot out......they must be super super elite then. I am not saying they are not good and I have no problem with the kids on the team I am just trying to prove a point that just because you think your elite and spout off to everyone about how good you are does not mean you can play at the elite level. And fact I do not have a 98 kid or anywhere close to a 98, and never came close to paying on the "Edge". and yea I am sure the tournament director was happy to take their money, heck I would happy to take your money. besides I Know my facts and its my right to run my mouth, I was in chicago
Let me guess what team your kid is on???????????????
hunting247 wrote:
Wow... they beat the icemen and won the warrior cup in a shoot out......they must be super super elite then. I am not saying they are not good and I have no problem with the kids on the team I am just trying to prove a point that just because you think your elite and spout off to everyone about how good you are does not mean you can play at the elite level. And fact I do not have a 98 kid or anywhere close to a 98, and never came close to paying on the "Edge". and yea I am sure the tournament director was happy to take their money, heck I would happy to take your money. besides I Know my facts and its my right to run my mouth, I was in chicago
Let me guess what team your kid is on???????????????
What is unfortunate is that you are an adult ridiculing KIDS. On top of that I think as Minnesotans we would want to see all of our teams do well in an outstate tournament. Whether the Edge is "elite" or not is all a matter of perspective, but either way it's nice to see a team step up and go against the best rather than pad the trophy case.
Wow...what the puck is your problem hunting 247? Just because a team tries to step their game up a notch (or 2) they become your whipping boys for the weekend? FYI - they've beat the Icemen and a host of what I guess you would call "lesser teams" and won the Warrior Cup last year in a shoot out with the same goalie I believe that someone said gets "easily rattled". So are they supposed to keep playing and beating the same teams over and over? Pretty sure the tournament directors were more than happy to take their money. Know your facts before you run your mouth....but let me take a guess here...what team did your kid get cut from?? Congrats to the Blades for a good showing - that's a hand-picked team of Minnesota's best right there, but to say that another team had no right to be in a tourney? Not much Minnesota nice there...
Wow... they beat the icemen and won the warrior cup in a shoot out......they must be super super elite then. I am not saying they are not good and I have no problem with the kids on the team I am just trying to prove a point that just because you think your elite and spout off to everyone about how good you are does not mean you can play at the elite level. And fact I do not have a 98 kid or anywhere close to a 98, and never came close to paying on the "Edge". and yea I am sure the tournament director was happy to take their money, heck I would happy to take your money. besides I Know my facts and its my right to run my mouth, I was in chicago
Let me guess what team your kid is on???????????????
Just to keep the records straight, the 98 Edge has not beaten the 98 Icemen.
hunting247 wrote:
Wow... they beat the icemen and won the warrior cup in a shoot out......they must be super super elite then. I am not saying they are not good and I have no problem with the kids on the team I am just trying to prove a point that just because you think your elite and spout off to everyone about how good you are does not mean you can play at the elite level. And fact I do not have a 98 kid or anywhere close to a 98, and never came close to paying on the "Edge". and yea I am sure the tournament director was happy to take their money, heck I would happy to take your money. besides I Know my facts and its my right to run my mouth, I was in chicago
Let me guess what team your kid is on???????????????
What is unfortunate is that you are an adult ridiculing KIDS. On top of that I think as Minnesotans we would want to see all of our teams do well in an outstate tournament. Whether the Edge is "elite" or not is all a matter of perspective, but either way it's nice to see a team step up and go against the best rather than pad the trophy case.
Ridiculing kids??? like I said I have no problem with the kids and they are a good team, and I wish them luck, but when the parents and the "EDGE" organization believe they are something they are not it hurts the kids. Do you think the kids had a choice of what tournament to go to? most likley not. It was the parents and coaches decision. Is it right to win all the time and pad the trophy case no, is right to enter a tournament in the elite level
when your team is not elite??? All I am saying is its the parents and coaches who are ultimately hurting the kids. It is ok to be an open team rather than an invite team, it is about having fun and making memories.
Skatesharpener wrote:
Wow...what the puck is your problem hunting 247? Just because a team tries to step their game up a notch (or 2) they become your whipping boys for the weekend? FYI - they've beat the Icemen and a host of what I guess you would call "lesser teams" and won the Warrior Cup last year in a shoot out with the same goalie I believe that someone said gets "easily rattled". So are they supposed to keep playing and beating the same teams over and over? Pretty sure the tournament directors were more than happy to take their money. Know your facts before you run your mouth....but let me take a guess here...what team did your kid get cut from?? Congrats to the Blades for a good showing - that's a hand-picked team of Minnesota's best right there, but to say that another team had no right to be in a tourney? Not much Minnesota nice there...
Wow... they beat the icemen and won the warrior cup in a shoot out......they must be super super elite then. I am not saying they are not good and I have no problem with the kids on the team I am just trying to prove a point that just because you think your elite and spout off to everyone about how good you are does not mean you can play at the elite level. And fact I do not have a 98 kid or anywhere close to a 98, and never came close to paying on the "Edge". and yea I am sure the tournament director was happy to take their money, heck I would happy to take your money. besides I Know my facts and its my right to run my mouth, I was in chicago
Let me guess what team your kid is on???????????????
Just to keep the records straight, the 98 Edge has not beaten the 98 Icemen.
Skatesharpener.......... maybe you should know your facts before you run your mouth
The Edge have been going to Chicago for this tournament for at least the last 4-5 years. When they started, the names were not as big and I believe they finished around .500. So should they quit going because they're playing tough competition?
Do the kids play tough teams and say, "we can't compete so we let's give up" or do they see these top teams/players and say"if I want to get to that level I have to work my *ss off"
Congrats to the kids on the Machine for winning the rematch at the end of the tourney but I'd reel in the "freight train" commentary. They are a good team but you went overboard in your commentary and it was proven as such. Try enjoying the kids instead of spouting off about 10 year olds.
maybe they should just play each other all summer, and see who has the best record at season's end. Do they have 2 team tournaments? 
You people need to get over ourselves!! 
let teams play the tourney's they want. who are you to say they shouldn't? it's suppose to be about the kids having fun playing hockey and about development--or is that just for the winter season?