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Anti Orange
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Post by Anti Orange »

Surprised that the Icemen lost to Machine Black. Tight game.
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Post by HockeyDad41 »

I got a chance to see the Brick Blades play and they are a good little team. They move the puck around very well, are creative with their play and every kid on the team hustles. Not to mention those are the coolest uniforms ever!!!!
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Deep Breath

Post by Deep Breath »

Anti--

Game between Icemen and Black wasn't as close as 3-1 score would suggest. Icemen goalie was great for 2 periods. Nice little goalie. Black added a little scoring punch from the Orange for the weekend, but the Icemen didn't pressure at all in first two periods and 3-minute shifts for #9 in the final period wasn't enough.
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Post by snyper12 »

Deep Breath wrote:Anti--

Game between Icemen and Black wasn't as close as 3-1 score would suggest. Icemen goalie was great for 2 periods. Nice little goalie. Black added a little scoring punch from the Orange for the weekend, but the Icemen didn't pressure at all in first two periods and 3-minute shifts for #9 in the final period wasn't enough.
Great for 3 periods, only so much he could do. Black really dominated 1st and 2nd.
keepurheadup
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Post by keepurheadup »

looks like the 98 thunderbay thunder are going home - ccm flyers refuse to play'em so they forfeited. Hopefully they never come back. The coach should be ashamed of how he's taught some of those kids to play or maybe it was the parents!?! Worst hockey I've ever seen. Some of those kids are going to end up in jail...
hockeyday
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Post by hockeyday »

CCM forfeited a championship game because it was too rough? Thats a great lesson for the kids going into bantam hockey this year - When the going gets tough pack up your gear and go home. Maybe CCM can start up a new non-contact league or see if their boys can play in the girls hockey league.
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Post by keepurheadup »

hockeyday wrote:CCM forfeited a championship game because it was too rough? Thats a great lesson for the kids going into bantam hockey this year - When the going gets tough pack up your gear and go home. Maybe CCM can start up a new non-contact league or see if their boys can play in the girls hockey league.
What's too rough? Where do you draw the line? How about some fights after the game in the parking lot. Or, maybe the parents should throw down...

Take a look at the stats on how many penalties the Thunder had and what they were for - the thunder had kids thrown out of the game for poundin on their opponents. Plus CCM already beat them in the indy, so what's the point, a t-shirt!?!
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Post by TheJet »

Anti Orange wrote:Surprised that the Icemen lost to Machine Black. Tight game.
Black came to play, suspect they will give you a good game in finals. Fun game to watch with exception of classless idiot machine parent sitting on iceman end quacking like a duck the entire game. I'm not one for sitting in the enemy territory but if I did I would sit on my hands and keep my little mouth shut. Bush and zero class IMO. Good luck in finals.
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Post by inthenet »

[quote="old goalie85"]99 nats still rolling. 98 and 00 0-4. 98 game w/SKE was good one goal game!! both teams skating well. Myy 00 has the Icemen this morn. # 9 for thje Icemen is as good of a 00 player as I have seen. 00 edge keeps rolling they will be tough to beat.[/

Og85......how did 99nats do on Saturday, are they still rolling?
Anti Orange
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Post by Anti Orange »

TheJet wrote:
Anti Orange wrote:Surprised that the Icemen lost to Machine Black. Tight game.
Black came to play, suspect they will give you a good game in finals. Fun game to watch with exception of classless idiot machine parent sitting on iceman end quacking like a duck the entire game. I'm not one for sitting in the enemy territory but if I did I would sit on my hands and keep my little mouth shut. Bush and zero class IMO. Good luck in finals.
Thanks Jet. I have to fly out at 2pm for work so I will miss the chip. @#@((*#*$(!! Not happy about having to leave. Good Luck to you against WMD. As far as the Machine parent, I am not suprised. There are good Machine parents out there (and those 6 know who I mean), but the a-holes seem to out number them by quite a bit. Go Edge!!!
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Post by Cdale »

hockeyday wrote:CCM forfeited a championship game because it was too rough? Thats a great lesson for the kids going into bantam hockey this year - When the going gets tough pack up your gear and go home. Maybe CCM can start up a new non-contact league or see if their boys can play in the girls hockey league.
Flyers are the Champs...period. Already beat Tbay Thunder in the 'Ship a few weeks back...been there done that. At the end of that game the Tbay coach unloaded bench to brawl. Spread the word, you do NOT want Tbay in your tournaments. Ask anyone who has played them. Machine Black lost 2 kids to cheap shots vs Tbay yesterday already. This isn't because it's "the going got tough" rather it's the going got cheap and dangerous with constant head shots and more that occur all game long. They have an intent to injure going on. They are a bunch of hacks coached by retards. Big difference between physcial tough play and blatant cheap shots.
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Post by thunderwolf »

Why does it not get mentioned by Flyers parents who complain about the Thunder that one of the Flyers coaches was throwing around a 12 year old on the ice, It's on the internet so there is video evidence. If you want to complain that the Thunder played too rough fine, but let's put it all out there. Coach shaking a 12 year old. Beauty
Cdale wrote:
hockeyday wrote:CCM forfeited a championship game because it was too rough? Thats a great lesson for the kids going into bantam hockey this year - When the going gets tough pack up your gear and go home. Maybe CCM can start up a new non-contact league or see if their boys can play in the girls hockey league.
Flyers are the Champs...period. Already beat Tbay Thunder in the 'Ship a few weeks back...been there done that. At the end of that game the Tbay coach unloaded bench to brawl. Spread the word, you do NOT want Tbay in your tournaments. Ask anyone who has played them. Machine Black lost 2 kids to cheap shots vs Tbay yesterday already. This isn't because it's "the going got tough" rather it's the going got cheap and dangerous with constant head shots and more that occur all game long. They have an intent to injure going on. They are a bunch of hacks coached by retards. Big difference between physcial tough play and blatant cheap shots.
Anti Orange
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Post by Anti Orange »

thunderwolf wrote:Why does it not get mentioned by Flyers parents who complain about the Thunder that one of the Flyers coaches was throwing around a 12 year old on the ice, It's on the internet so there is video evidence. If you want to complain that the Thunder played too rough fine, but let's put it all out there. Coach shaking a 12 year old. Beauty
Cdale wrote:
hockeyday wrote:CCM forfeited a championship game because it was too rough? Thats a great lesson for the kids going into bantam hockey this year - When the going gets tough pack up your gear and go home. Maybe CCM can start up a new non-contact league or see if their boys can play in the girls hockey league.
Flyers are the Champs...period. Already beat Tbay Thunder in the 'Ship a few weeks back...been there done that. At the end of that game the Tbay coach unloaded bench to brawl. Spread the word, you do NOT want Tbay in your tournaments. Ask anyone who has played them. Machine Black lost 2 kids to cheap shots vs Tbay yesterday already. This isn't because it's "the going got tough" rather it's the going got cheap and dangerous with constant head shots and more that occur all game long. They have an intent to injure going on. They are a bunch of hacks coached by retards. Big difference between physcial tough play and blatant cheap shots.
Where on the internet? Got a link?
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Post by thunderwolf »

It was posted on a facebook page. My wife and I both watched it> not sure if it has been pulled or if facebook shut it down but it was out there.
Anti Orange wrote:
thunderwolf wrote:Why does it not get mentioned by Flyers parents who complain about the Thunder that one of the Flyers coaches was throwing around a 12 year old on the ice, It's on the internet so there is video evidence. If you want to complain that the Thunder played too rough fine, but let's put it all out there. Coach shaking a 12 year old. Beauty
Cdale wrote: Flyers are the Champs...period. Already beat Tbay Thunder in the 'Ship a few weeks back...been there done that. At the end of that game the Tbay coach unloaded bench to brawl. Spread the word, you do NOT want Tbay in your tournaments. Ask anyone who has played them. Machine Black lost 2 kids to cheap shots vs Tbay yesterday already. This isn't because it's "the going got tough" rather it's the going got cheap and dangerous with constant head shots and more that occur all game long. They have an intent to injure going on. They are a bunch of hacks coached by retards. Big difference between physcial tough play and blatant cheap shots.
Where on the internet? Got a link?
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Post by thunderwolf »

Where on the internet? Got a link?
It also doesn't get mentioned that the Flyers ended the game on a 5 on 3. The fight started at the buzzer with 5 Flyers fighting the three Thunder Bay kids. Both teams came onto the ice at game end and a 4 th Thunder Bay player came from the bench and got involved. the coaches (retards) did not send their kids out to brawl. I know one of the coaches well and he never would have sent kids over the bench.
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Post by Quasar »

:oops: wrong thread
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hockey59
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Flyers and Thunder

Post by hockey59 »

thunderwolf wrote:
Where on the internet? Got a link?
It also doesn't get mentioned that the Flyers ended the game on a 5 on 3. The fight started at the buzzer with 5 Flyers fighting the three Thunder Bay kids. Both teams came onto the ice at game end and a 4 th Thunder Bay player came from the bench and got involved. the coaches (retards) did not send their kids out to brawl. I know one of the coaches well and he never would have sent kids over the bench.
Fact - the game did not end on a 5-3 Flyer advantage...in fact Flyers were on a 5-4 advantage and Thunder had their goalie pulled so it was 5 on 5 players on the ice (excluding the Flyer goalie)

Fact...at the final buzzer, with the puck rolling into the Flyer D zone corner a Thunder played leaped into the air and hit the biggest kid on the Flyers from behind into the glass. The Flyer player reacted accordingly to this type of hit and defended himself...by pushing and admittingly throwing some punches...but all by himself...and the refs would have broken this up...BUT

FACT - as the Flyer players left the bench to celebrate and hogpile on the winning goalie...one of the coaches on the Thunder bench yell GO!!!...and all the Thunder players came off the bench in a wave, attacking Flyer players at random, some from BEHIND!...it was a sad show of unsportsmanship...clearly somebody needs to remind the TB coach who yelled GO!...not to confuse the tactics he obviousy teaches players on the Tier 3 JUNIOR hockey team he coaches in the SIJHL ....with what are appropriate tactics ...both on the ice and when the final buzzer sounds...for the 12-13 year old kids he coaches on the Thunder.

FACT...a Flyer coach did pull a Thunder player off a Flyer player because he tried to KICK the Flyer player with this skate.

The real loser here are the kids who got cheated out of a championship game...both the Thunder players...and they are very skilled hockey players...and the Flyers players...who are also very skilled hockey players. Really sad...but there is simply too much bad blood between these 2 teams to chance a repeat of how the last tourney ended...hopefully as time goes on the situation will simmer down and we can all move on from this.
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Re: Flyers and Thunder

Post by thunderwolf »

It's funny how supposed "Facts" are different depending who you speak to. So are they facts?

The USA Cup organizer reportedly watched the Thunder play this weekend based on these supposed "facts". Had no problem with the way they played and ensured them they are welcome back next year. Wonder if the Flyers will be have the same opportunity

Fact - the game did not end on a 5-3 Flyer advantage...in fact Flyers were on a 5-4 advantage and Thunder had their goalie pulled so it was 5 on 5 players on the ice (excluding the Flyer goalie)

Fact...at the final buzzer, with the puck rolling into the Flyer D zone corner a Thunder played leaped into the air and hit the biggest kid on the Flyers from behind into the glass. The Flyer player reacted accordingly to this type of hit and defended himself...by pushing and admittingly throwing some punches...but all by himself...and the refs would have broken this up...BUT

FACT - as the Flyer players left the bench to celebrate and hogpile on the winning goalie...one of the coaches on the Thunder bench yell GO!!!...and all the Thunder players came off the bench in a wave, attacking Flyer players at random, some from BEHIND!...it was a sad show of unsportsmanship...clearly somebody needs to remind the TB coach who yelled GO!...not to confuse the tactics he obviousy teaches players on the Tier 3 JUNIOR hockey team he coaches in the SIJHL ....with what are appropriate tactics ...both on the ice and when the final buzzer sounds...for the 12-13 year old kids he coaches on the Thunder.

FACT...a Flyer coach did pull a Thunder player off a Flyer player because he tried to KICK the Flyer player with this skate.

The real loser here are the kids who got cheated out of a championship game...both the Thunder players...and they are very skilled hockey players...and the Flyers players...who are also very skilled hockey players. Really sad...but there is simply too much bad blood between these 2 teams to chance a repeat of how the last tourney ended...hopefully as time goes on the situation will simmer down and we can all move on from this.
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Post by hockeyday »

Was this pond hockey with no refs? If your kid is scared to play other kids the exact same age who are 12 and 13 years old and just over 100lbs soaking wet you better get him out of hockey. When you go into first years bantams in 3 months your kids will be playing 180lb 14 and 15 year olds who truly can cause serious harm. The reffing at these minneapolis tourneys is usually brutal in terms of over calling everything so if you can't play in that setting, you're gonna have a problem. Wait till you see some of the other big Canadian clubs especially from Manitoba.
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Post by Anti Orange »

Congrats to the 2000 Edge - 2011 International Cup Champs.

They defeated Machine Blange 5-2.
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Trout
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Post by Trout »

Interesting that the Edge won it in the 2000 bracket...congrats to them, just looked at their online stats (nice job updating the info for this tourney!)

The next closest game they had was the 4 goal game in which they beat the 01 Blades...

01 Blades outshot everyone they played with the exception of the Edge. They must have held their own.
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Post by Anti Orange »

Trout wrote:Interesting that the Edge won it in the 2000 bracket...congrats to them, just looked at their online stats (nice job updating the info for this tourney!)

The next closest game they had was the 4 goal game in which they beat the 01 Blades...

01 Blades outshot everyone they played with the exception of the Edge. They must have held their own.
They are a good team. They move the puck well and have speed.
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Re: Flyers and Thunder

Post by mnhockey7742 »

thunderwolf wrote:It's funny how supposed "Facts" are different depending who you speak to. So are they facts?

The USA Cup organizer reportedly watched the Thunder play this weekend based on these supposed "facts". Had no problem with the way they played and ensured them they are welcome back next year. Wonder if the Flyers will be have the same opportunity

Fact - the game did not end on a 5-3 Flyer advantage...in fact Flyers were on a 5-4 advantage and Thunder had their goalie pulled so it was 5 on 5 players on the ice (excluding the Flyer goalie)

Fact...at the final buzzer, with the puck rolling into the Flyer D zone corner a Thunder played leaped into the air and hit the biggest kid on the Flyers from behind into the glass. The Flyer player reacted accordingly to this type of hit and defended himself...by pushing and admittingly throwing some punches...but all by himself...and the refs would have broken this up...BUT

FACT - as the Flyer players left the bench to celebrate and hogpile on the winning goalie...one of the coaches on the Thunder bench yell GO!!!...and all the Thunder players came off the bench in a wave, attacking Flyer players at random, some from BEHIND!...it was a sad show of unsportsmanship...clearly somebody needs to remind the TB coach who yelled GO!...not to confuse the tactics he obviousy teaches players on the Tier 3 JUNIOR hockey team he coaches in the SIJHL ....with what are appropriate tactics ...both on the ice and when the final buzzer sounds...for the 12-13 year old kids he coaches on the Thunder.

FACT...a Flyer coach did pull a Thunder player off a Flyer player because he tried to KICK the Flyer player with this skate.

The real loser here are the kids who got cheated out of a championship game...both the Thunder players...and they are very skilled hockey players...and the Flyers players...who are also very skilled hockey players. Really sad...but there is simply too much bad blood between these 2 teams to chance a repeat of how the last tourney ended...hopefully as time goes on the situation will simmer down and we can all move on from this.
those are the facts. I believe hockey59 was there. I was also there and that wasn't the first game they had after game issues on the ice that weekend. Unless you were not telling truth on previous posts you were not there and from your use of the words "reportedly" and "accounts" of the end of the game confirms you were not there or can't be truthful of even the basic facts about how many players were on the ice. What you are reporting is called hearsay ... second hand accounts from people that had a reason to be less than truthful.

You are right, one of the coaches did seem to be a decent guy.
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Post by mnhockey7742 »

No Political Connections wrote:
hockeyday wrote:Was this pond hockey with no refs? If your kid is scared to play other kids the exact same age who are 12 and 13 years old and just over 100lbs soaking wet you better get him out of hockey. When you go into first years bantams in 3 months your kids will be playing 180lb 14 and 15 year olds who truly can cause serious harm. The reffing at these minneapolis tourneys is usually brutal in terms of over calling everything so if you can't play in that setting, you're gonna have a problem. Wait till you see some of the other big Canadian clubs especially from Manitoba.
Yikes, is this the precursor of things to come with USAH's new no checking rule? now are we going to see teams walk off the ice when it gets too rough? Being familiar with Mpls reffing standards (they call most games like they are girls games) I think that there might be some hidden facts here that somebody wants to have remain hidden.
NPC .. .I thought you were better than this ... apparently not.
hockeyday
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Post by hockeyday »

Thanks to online stats. Check out the penalty minutes in 98 division over 5 games. 6 teams including the CCM flyers were within 10 penalties of the Thunder for the whole tournament. Minneapolis doesn't exactly have a reputation for letting things go and an average of 8 penalties per game on average for Thunder Bay isn't exactly broad street bully hockey. I'm not saying they weren't chippy, but with those kinds of stats sure don't paint a good picture for throwing a championship. They send an even worse message as these kids enter bantam A hockey against bigger, older kids this fall.

Team Name Penalty minutes from tournament
CCM Flyers 64
Skate to Excellence 16
Jr Beavers 72
Reebok Nationals 58
MN Legacy Hockey 49
Miracle Gold 66
Thunder Bay 98s 80
MINWIS Elites 60
Thunder Bay Thunder 82
AAA Crush Hockey 66
Machine Black 71
Ice Edge Elite 54
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