2012-2013 D1 Commitments

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Hux is reporting on the College Hockey Forum:

UNH
Sarah Carlson.........F........Hutchinson

A very good MN player heading East - she will have big impact with her size.

http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?9 ... 2013/page4

New Hampshire

Sara Carlson ................F ..........................(Hutchinson) .........................Hutchinson, MN

joins:
Hannah Bramm ...........F ...............................(NAHA) ......................................Tampa, FL
Alexis Crossley ............D ................................(SSM) .............................Cole Harbour, NS
Jonna Curtis ................F ............................(Elk River) .................................Elk River, MN
Paige Savage ..............F ........................(USA 18s/NAHA) ............................Carollton, TX

I will update the complete list tonight
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Pens4 wrote:Could someone explain to me why a player (parent) would verbally commit to a program 18 months before they can sign a letter of intent that binds the school too?
This early recruiting creates a very difficult situation for 17 yr olds but is a great learning experience for their future decision-making skills. For the top end players, the days are likely gone of coaches in the living rooms and several official visits in the fall of their senior yr. They will have made unnofficial visits in their sophmore and junior years and will likely be committing well before the official contact period in July. For those that have multiple opportunities and have narrowed their choices, they are providing a courtesy to the other programs in notifying those schools earlier rather than later. If they have made a final decision then everyone including those programs can move on.

It has changed a great deal. It wasn't that long ago that players were waiting in October/November before NLI day for a higher ranked player to make a decision and then drive the next offers. It was a very compressed timeline in some cases and maybe the current environment provides more time for the players to make an informed decision and explore more school choices.
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Post by joehockey »

With Junior Fest over are there any other commitments made within this class?
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Congrats to Molly Illikainen, GRG....committed to Providence!
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x-out wrote:Congrats to Molly Illikainen, GRG....committed to Providence!
How 'bout that joe...more help for The Friars from The State of Hockey!
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brookyone wrote:
x-out wrote:Congrats to Molly Illikainen, GRG....committed to Providence!
How 'bout that joe...more help for The Friars from The State of Hockey!
Couldn't be happier :D great kid, family and will be a perfect fit and have great impact at Providence!
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So this is the Roster for the current U19 Blue MN Jr Whitecaps and current MN Icecats Roster with commitments to date. Perhaps others can fill in more detail as none especially on Icecats their on line roster is pretty minimal:

U19 Blue MN Jr Whitecaps# Player Pos School Grad Year
4 Paige Jahnke D Roseville HS 2012
5 Milica McMillen D Breck HS 2012 - Minnesota
6 Jonna Curtis F Elk River HS 2012 - UNH
7 Sara Carlson F Hutchinson HS 2012 - UNH
8 Lee Stecklein D Roseville HS 2012 - Minnesota

9 Alli Rolandelli D Hopkins HS 2012
10 Hanna Brodt F Roseville HS 2012
12 Hannah Brandt F Hill Murray HS 2012 - Minnesota
14 Megan Armstrong D Edina HS 2012
15 Hayley Hill F White Bear Lake HS 2012
16 Mari Mankey F Hopkins HS 2012
17 Dani Camarenesi F Blake HS 2013
18 Lexi Slattery D Centennial HS 2012
20 Sam Hanson F/D White Bear Lake HS 2012 - UND
21 Brittany Thunstrom F Blaine HS 2012
25 Courtney Kukowski F Eastview HS 2012
29 Molly Illikainen F Grand Rapids HS 2012 - Providence
30 Erika Allen G Roseville HS 2012
39 Allie Morse G Park HS 2012


MN Icecats U19
Dahl 3 G
Neisen, Taylor 20 G
LaShomb 4 D - UND
Austin 13 D
Buehrer 5 D
Taffe 12 D
Wilcox 18 D
Johnston, Hannah 22 D
Kinsel 6 F
Halvorson, Liv 16 F/D
Peake 7 F
Woo 15 F
Nielson 19 F
Arnason 8 F
Storo 11 F
Lushanko 17 F
Wagner, Lydia 23 F
Rooney 21 F
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joehockey wrote:So this is the Roster for the current U19 Blue MN Jr Whitecaps and current MN Icecats Roster with commitments to date. Perhaps others can fill in more detail as none especially on Icecats their on line roster is pretty minimal:

U19 Blue MN Jr Whitecaps# Player Pos School Grad Year
4 Paige Jahnke D Roseville HS 2012
5 Milica McMillen D Breck HS 2012 - Minnesota
6 Jonna Curtis F Elk River HS 2012 - UNH
7 Sara Carlson F Hutchinson HS 2012 - UNH
8 Lee Stecklein D Roseville HS 2012 - Minnesota

9 Alli Rolandelli D Hopkins HS 2012
10 Hanna Brodt F Roseville HS 2012
12 Hannah Brandt F Hill Murray HS 2012 - Minnesota
14 Megan Armstrong D Edina HS 2012 - UNH
15 Hayley Hill F White Bear Lake HS 2012
16 Mari Mankey F Hopkins HS 2012
17 Dani Camarenesi F Blake HS 2013
18 Lexi Slattery D Centennial HS 2012 - Providence
20 Sam Hanson F/D White Bear Lake HS 2012 - UND
21 Brittany Thunstrom F Blaine HS 2012
25 Courtney Kukowski F Eastview HS 2012
29 Molly Illikainen F Grand Rapids HS 2012 - Providence
30 Erika Allen G Roseville HS 2012
39 Allie Morse G Park HS 2012


MN Icecats U19

Dahl 3 G
Neisen, Taylor 20 G
LaShomb 4 D White Bear - UND
Austin 13 D Edina - Yale
Buehrer 5 D
Taffe 12 D
Wilcox 18 D
Johnston, Hannah 22 D
Kinsel 6 F
Halvorson, Liv 16 F/D
Peake 7 F
Woo 15 F
Nielson 19 F
Arnason 8 F
Storo 11 F
Lushanko 17 F
Wagner, Lydia 23 F
Rooney 21 F
Was out to the rink last night and sounds like there are more commitments to be announced soon!
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Post by joehockey »

Lexi Slattery Centennial & MN Jr Whitecap is off to Providence

http://presspubs.com/articles/2011/07/1 ... 595277.txt

Lexi Slattery a future Friar
Published:
Tuesday, July 12, 2011 3:39 PM CDT
CIRCLE PINES — With a goal of putting an end to much of the recruitment process, Centennial Senior High girl's hockey standout Lexi Slattery has decided to cast her lot and tote her gear bag off to Providence, R.I.

The senior-to-be has given an oral commitment to attend the school in the fall of 2012 and play hockey for the Friars' womens hockey team.

Defenseman Slattery has been a steady force on the Cougar blue line the past two seasons, and has also garnered attention at the USA Hockey National Select Camp for the U-16 Minnesota team.

"My final three choices were Bemidji State, Providence, and Colgate," she offered. "Each school is so different, but I liked all three of them very much. I really like the fact that all of the (Hockey East Conference) schools are so close together."

Slattery added that she also considered Robert Morris College and the University of Connecticut, where big sister Jocie played her freshman season last year for the Huskies' women's hockey team.

"We'll get a chance to play (U Conn) three times a year because they are in our conference," Slattery said. "That's something I'm looking forward to. The conference is also very competitive, there's no one or two teams that dominate. I like that."

-Mark Aguirre
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Post by SuperStar »

Joe ,

Need to add Ali Austin to Yale...for 12-13'. Ali is a D from Edina. Congrats to her and her family!!
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Post by joehockey »

I'll restart this for 2012-12 but let someone else maintain and update (credit to Hux and others on College Forum for historic data)

Re: D1 Commitments 2012-2013 Player....................Position...............( Current Team).......................Hometown

(Based on reliable info, but to paraphrase Yogi, "It ain't official 'til it's official.")
* Denotes commitments are official, as announced by the school


Bemidji State

Boston College

Boston University

Brown

Clarkson

Colgate

Connecticut

Cornell

Dartmouth

Harvard

Holy Cross

Maine

Mercyhurst

Minnesota
Hannah Brandt ...................F ..................(USA 18s/Hill Murray) ...............Vadnais Heights, MN
Millica McMillen ....................D.......................(USA 18s/Breck) .....................Highland Park, MN
Lee Stecklein .....................D.....................(USA 18s/Roseville) ...........................Roseville, MN

Minnesota-Duluth

Minnesota State

New Hampshire
Sara Carlson ................F ...........................(Hutchinson) ..............................Hutchinson, MN
Jonna Curtis ................F ..............................(Elk River) ...................................Elk River, MN

Niagara

North Dakota
Sam Hanson .....................D ......................(White Bear Lake) ...............White Bear Lake, MN
Sam LaShomb ..................D .........................(So. St. Paul) ..........................So. St. Paul, MN
Marissa Salo .....................F ..............................(NAHA) ............................Grand Rapids, MN

Northeastern

Ohio State

Penn State

Princeton

Providence
Molly Illikainen.......F....... GRG Lightning HS........Grand Rapids, MN
Lexi Slattery.........D.......Centennial HS / MN Jr Whitecaps U19........Circle Pines, MN

Quinnipiac

Robert Morris

Rensselaer

Sacred Heart

St. Cloud State

St. Lawrence

Syracuse

Union

Vermont

Wayne State

Wisconsin

Yale
Ali Austin............D.......Edina HS / MN Ice Cats U19..........Edina, MN

U.S. 25: Minnesota 11; Massachusetts 3; Michigan, and Ohio 2 each; Alaska, Arizona, Florida, New Jersey, North Carolina, Texas, and Wisconsin 1 each

Canada 3: British Columbia, Manitoba, and Nova Scotia 1 each

MN History as a % of D1 players
11-12 D1 Recruit Class Total: 163 - 105 USA (64%), CDN 51 (32%), INTL 7 (4%) - MN 47 (29%)
10-11 D1 Recruit Class Total: 158 USA 96 (59%), CDN 61 (40%) INTL 1 (1%) - MN 36 (23%)
09-10 D1 Recruit Class Totals: 207 USA 113 (54%), CDN 87 (42%) Intl 7 (4%) – MN 32 (15%)
08-09 D1 Recruit Class Totals: 208...119 USA (57%), 83 CAN (40%) , 6 INt (3%) Ontario accounts for 43% of the Canadians – MN 37 (18%)
07-08 D1 Recruit Class Totals: 164....95 USA (58%), 65 CAN (40%), 4 Int (2%) Ontario accounts for 44% of the Canadians – MN 28 (17%)
06-07 D1 Recruit Class Totals: 201...128 USA (64%) , 62 CAN (31%) , 9 Int ( 5%) Ontario accounts for 47% of the Canadians – MN 40 (31%)
05-06 D1 Recruit Class Totals: 211...129 USA (61%) , 79 CAN (37%) , 3 Int ( 1.5%) Ontario accounts for 46% of the Canadians – MN 27 (21%)

*** Not sure why the overall numbers were lower in 07-08, but the percentages of source were consistent with the other years.

Detailed Source info:
2005-2006 D1 Commitments:
United States: 129 , 27 of them from Minnesota
Canadian: 79... 36 coming from Ontario, 14 Alberta, 9 BC, 6 Manitoba, 5 Saskatchewan, 5 Quebec, 2 New Brunswick, 1 Nova Scotia, 1 Newfoundland
International: 3 ....Finland 1, Germany 1, Scotland 1
05-06 D1 Recruit Class Totals: 211...129 USA (61%) , 79 CAN (37%) , 3 Int ( 1.5%) Ontario accounts for 46% of the Canadians
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2006-2007 D1 Commitments:
United States: 128 , 40 of them from Minnesota
Canadian: 62... 29 coming from Ontario, 14 Alberta, 6 BC, 5 Saskatchewan, 3 Quebec, 3 Manitoba, 1 Nova Scotia, 1 PEI
International: 9 ....Sweden: 5, Finland 3, Germany 1
06-07 D1 Recruit Class Totals: 201...128 US (64%) , 62 CAN (31%) , 9 Int ( 5%) Ontario accounts for 47% of the Canadians
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2007-2008 D1 Commitments
United States: 95, with 28 from Minnesota, 14 Mass, 9 California, 6 each from Michigan and Illinois, 4 each from Connecticut and Pennslyvania, 3 each from NY and Colorado, and 2 each from NH, Wisconsin and Texas, and 1 each from Alaska, Idaho, Maryland, Maine, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, Vermont, Virginia, Wyoming and North Carolina

Canadian: 65... 29 coming from Ontario, 9 Alberta, 7 Manitoba, 6 BC, 5 Saskatchewan, 4 Quebec, 3 New Brunswick, 2 Newfoundland
International: 4 ....Sweden: 3, Ukraine: 1
07-08 D1 Recruit Class Totals: 164...95 US (58%), 65 CAN (40%), 4 Int (2%) Ontario accounts for 44% of the Canadians
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08-09 D1 Recruit numbers:
USA: 119-Minnesota 37; Massachusetts 19; Michigan 7; New York 9; Illinois 7; Connecticut and New Jersey 6; Alaska 5; California, Colorado, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin 3 each; Maine, North Carolina, North Dakota, and Rhode Island 2 each; New Hampshire, Ohio, Oregon, and Virginia 1 each.
CANADA: 83-Ontario 36; Alberta 12; Manitoba 12; Quebec 10; British Columbia 6; Saskatchewan 5; Nova Scotia 2; Prince Edward Island and New Brunswick 1 each
International: 6 Sweden: 3, Denmark: 1, Finland: 1, Switzerland: 1
08-09 D1 Recruit Class Totals: 208... 119 USA (57%), 83 CAN (40%) , 6
INt (3%) Ontario accounts for 43% of the Canadians
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09-10 D1 Recruit Class Totals: 207 USA 113 (54%), CDN 87 (42%) Intl 7 (4%)
USA 113: Minnesota 32; Massachusetts 16; Illinois 13; New York 9; Michigan 5; California, Connecticut, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin 4 each; Colorado 3 each; Alaska, North Carolina, Rhode Island, and Vermont 2 each; Arizona, Ohio, Louisiana, Maryland, North Dakota, and Texas 1 each
CANADA 87: Ontario 51; Alberta 16; Quebec 8; Manitoba 6; British Columbia 3; Newfoundland, Nova Scotia, and Prince Edward Island 1 each
CZECH REPUBLIC 1, FINLAND: 4, GERMANY: 2
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10-11 D1 Recruits: 152 USA 90 (59%), CDN 61 (40%) INTL 1 (1%)
U.S. 107: Minnesota 47; Massachusetts 10; Illinois, and New Jersey 7 each; New York, and Wisconsin 5 each;
Connecticut, and Michigan 4 each; Colorado 3; Alaska, Pennsylvania, and Vermont 2 each; Arizona, California,
Maine, Maryland, Missouri, New Hampshire, Ohio, North Carolina, and Virginia 1 each
CANADA 61: Ontario 44; Manitoba, and Quebec 5 each; Saskatchewan 3; Alberta 2; British Columbia, and Newfoundland 1 each
Finland 1
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11-12 Recruits Numbers - U.S. 105: Minnesota 47; Massachusetts 12; Michigan 10; Illinois 7; California, Connecticut, Maryland, New Hampshire, Ohio, and New York 3 each; Alaska, Florida, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, and Vermont 2 each; North Carolina, Wisconsin, and Vermont 1 each
Canada 51: Ontario 24; Alberta 8; Quebec 6; Manitoba 5; BC, and Nova Scotia 3 each; New Brunswick, and Saskatchewan 1 each
Czech:1, Denmark:1, Finland: 1, Norway: 1, Sweden: 3
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From Hux on the college forum

New Hampshire
Megan Armstrong ................D .......................(Edina) ................................Edina, MN
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Post by hockey_is_a_choice »

That's fantastic news about Ali. I remember meeting Ali at the Acceleration gym in Edina. She was in eighth grade at the time. My son was on the skating treadmill and she was waiting for the next treadmill session to start. We were both killing time so we started to chat. I could tell immediately that she was smart, articulate, and driven. She ended the conversation by telling me that her goal was to play hockey at an Ivy League college. As I said, she was smart and driven. I closed the conversation by asking her for her name so that I could follow her progress. The Yale Bulldogs are in for a treat.
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Hux (as of 7/31/11) has updated the College Forum with recrutis to date at
http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?9 ... 2013/page6

U.S. 32: Minnesota 12; Massachusetts 5; Ohio, Michigan, and New York 2 each; Arizona, Alaska,
California, Connecticut, Florida, Maryland, New Jersey, North Carolina, Texas, and Wisconsin 1 each

Canada 5: Alberta 2; British Columbia, Manitoba, and Nova Scotia 1 each

Last year on 7/25/10 Hux posted the following totals so the rate of recruiting is again appears to be increasing:

U.S. 23: Minnesota 16; California, Florida, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Vermont 1 each

Canada 1: BC 1
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Hux released an updated list at: http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?9 ... 2013/page7

U.S. 33: Minnesota 12; Massachusetts 5; Ohio, Michigan, New Jersey, and New York 2 each; Arizona, Alaska,
California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Maryland, North Carolina, Texas, and Wisconsin 1 each

Canada 5: Alberta 2; British Columbia, Manitoba, and Nova Scotia 1 each
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joehockey wrote:Hux released an updated list at: http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?9 ... 2013/page7

U.S. 33: Minnesota 12; Massachusetts 5; Ohio, Michigan, New Jersey, and New York 2 each; Arizona, Alaska,
California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Maryland, North Carolina, Texas, and Wisconsin 1 each

Canada 5: Alberta 2; British Columbia, Manitoba, and Nova Scotia 1 each
Don't believe it's only my imagination but it sure seems like the number of Eastern hockey programs recruiting in Minnesota is on the rise. Look at UNH for instance. Former Gopher asst. Jamie Wood now with the UNH Wildcats. I wonder if his time at the U didn't have some influence on their increasing recruiting presence in the state?
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MN Girls 12 Total

WCHA - 6
- MN 3
- UND 3

East - 6
- UNH 3
- Providence 2
- Yale 1

Last Year final split (schools this fall)
WCHA - 20
East - 29
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Hanna Brodt to St. Cloud State! Way to go Hanna!! Very happy to see the Brodt tradition continue an hour north of the cities!! Go Huskies!
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brookyone wrote:
joehockey wrote:Hux released an updated list at: http://board.uscho.com/showthread.php?9 ... 2013/page7

U.S. 33: Minnesota 12; Massachusetts 5; Ohio, Michigan, New Jersey, and New York 2 each; Arizona, Alaska,
California, Connecticut, Delaware, Florida, Maryland, North Carolina, Texas, and Wisconsin 1 each

Canada 5: Alberta 2; British Columbia, Manitoba, and Nova Scotia 1 each
Don't believe it's only my imagination but it sure seems like the number of Eastern hockey programs recruiting in Minnesota is on the rise. Look at UNH for instance. Former Gopher asst. Jamie Wood now with the UNH Wildcats. I wonder if his time at the U didn't have some influence on their increasing recruiting presence in the state?
Ah, yeah, I think it is safe to say he is well versed in the who's who of the State of Hockey and that it has had an impact on recruiting. However, prior to Coach Wood's arrival at UNH, Head Coach Brian McCloskey had expressed a wish to recruit more players out of Minnesota, Michigan, and Illinois. And that may well have been a prime motivator in hiring Coach Wood.
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Looks like Providence, Syracuse, and Connecticut have also stepped up their efforts as well as UNH. So far 4 of 5 top fwds have gone east. Those are great hockey and educational opportunities for these girls and it may not be long before Hockey East and ECAC reach parity with WCHA. I wonder if this trend continues, will this create even more separation in WCHA. WI/MN seem to lock up the top (1-3) targeted players and then maybe miss on a few of these players that head east. But they also won't have to play against them 4 times a year. Can the other WCHA teams compete with MN/WI without landing the tier 1 players? There are so many good players now maybe this is not an issue. It also seems like more Canadians and Europeans are looking at the WCHA. Maybe this is just a cycle and balances itself out based on strength of recruiting class/ scholarships available/ etc.
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puckskillz wrote:Looks like Providence, Syracuse, and Connecticut have also stepped up their efforts as well as UNH. So far 4 of 5 top fwds have gone east. Those are great hockey and educational opportunities for these girls and it may not be long before Hockey East and ECAC reach parity with WCHA. I wonder if this trend continues, will this create even more separation in WCHA. WI/MN seem to lock up the top (1-3) targeted players and then maybe miss on a few of these players that head east. But they also won't have to play against them 4 times a year. Can the other WCHA teams compete with MN/WI without landing the tier 1 players? There are so many good players now maybe this is not an issue. It also seems like more Canadians and Europeans are looking at the WCHA. Maybe this is just a cycle and balances itself out based on strength of recruiting class/ scholarships available/ etc.
The WCHA is great at the top MN, WI, UND, UMD - they attract the top MN, CDN and EU players. The rest of the WCHA and the EAST split players.
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puckskillz wrote:Can the other WCHA teams compete with MN/WI without landing the tier 1 players? There are so many good players now maybe this is not an issue. It also seems like more Canadians and Europeans are looking at the WCHA. Maybe this is just a cycle and balances itself out based on strength of recruiting class/ scholarships available/ etc.
I asked the very same question in the women's college hockey forum. While some responses indicated that might become more difficult for SCSU, BSU and MSU to improve their position in the WCHA standings when / if they are unable to successfully recruit their share of the local "tier 1" players, generally most opinions were that there are now enough good players that those programs should be able to field rosters with which they can be competitive with The Big Three of the WCHA. That may be true...I'm not absolutely sure. My only point in that forum was that the number of those first tier players going to the ECAC and HE...players that in the past St. Cloud and Mankato were usually able to recruit a few of...well, I think that potentially hurts the chances for the Huskies, Mavericks and Beavers to move up in the WCHA standings. Your point about the Canadians and Euros is a good one. It would help SCSU, MSU and BSU a great deal if they could recruit some quality players from outside of Minnesota to replace the quality local players lost to programs in the East. It's great that so many are getting those opportunities at ECAC and HE schools. Teams in the CHA are picking up more Minnesotans as well.
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It will be interesting to watch the impact of the '11-12 class. It is so large and diverse across all conferences. If these girls have a positive impact on those teams, that could increase the total number of teams that feel they need MN talent. Good luck girls.
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brookyone wrote:While some responses indicated that might become more difficult for SCSU, BSU and MSU to improve their position in the WCHA standings when / if they are unable to successfully recruit their share of the local "tier 1" players, generally most opinions were that there are now enough good players that those programs should be able to field rosters with which they can be competitive with The Big Three of the WCHA.
I think it depends on what you mean by "they can be competitive with The Big Three of the WCHA." If competitive means win titles or crack the top 3 in the league, then likely not. If competitive means means be in most games and win a game every now and then from those powers, then sure. Over their histories, SCSU, BSU and MSU haven't won enough in-state recruiting battles for players Minnesota and Wisconsin covet (UMD doesn't seem to care much one way or the other) to gain much ground. While the Minnesota HS talent seems to be deeper than ever, there are only so many in that very top tier.
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GopherFanARM wrote:I think it depends on what you mean by "they can be competitive with The Big Three of the WCHA." If competitive means win titles or crack the top 3 in the league, then likely not. If competitive means means be in most games and win a game every now and then from those powers, then sure. Over their histories, SCSU, BSU and MSU haven't won enough in-state recruiting battles for players Minnesota and Wisconsin covet (UMD doesn't seem to care much one way or the other) to gain much ground. While the Minnesota HS talent seems to be deeper than ever, there are only so many in that very top tier.
I look at "being more competitive" as...ah, well my concept of being more competitive is for those three programs mentioned to be much closer to the Big 3 in the standings than they've been at any time to this point...when the dust settles. Which obviously means they have to win more games. I don't see this happening anytime soon if ever in my time. Let alone finishing in the top 3 or winning the WCHA. Which is not what I expect when I speak of being more competitive. But that was my point. One thing they need to even start to climb / compete better is to do better in Minnesota per recruiting and I do think that the trend of increased competition for those players and the success programs in HE and the ECAC are achieving with recruiting in Minnesota is adding considerable difficulty well beyond the already difficult task of competing against the U and UW for those players. I don't like a possibility for a year like the Huskies had last season becoming more common / typical for the Beavers, Mavericks and Huskies...and I see the recruiting "trend" fans are talking about as potentially tipping the scale, or results in that direction.

However...there's much more to it than just Minnesota players. those WCHA teams have never garnered the attention or had the success recruiting top players from outside Minnesota and outside the US that the U, UW and UMD have had either, that I'm aware of. That's been a pretty key factor in the success of the Big 3 also I'd say.

I guess it all comes down to a bottom line. Options are increasing for the Minnesota players and the staffs of those "other" Minnesota based programs aren't getting it done when it comes to selling their program to many local kids. I know it's not an easy thing...but it is their job.

The young ladies are smart...making the education a big part of their decisions.


You're right about the limited number at the very top level. Another opinion I read was that there are enough quality players available within Minnesota for those teams to be much more competitive (regularly much closer in final standings) to the Big 3 even with strictly Minnesota player heavy rosters. I'm not too sure I buy that one. That kind of overlooks the impact of very gifted players from other locations that Minnesota, Duluth and Wisconsin always have on their rosters.
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