Congrats to Benilde for winning 21-0 over Cooper. I can only image how proud you all were. Especially scoring 5 more goals in the 3rd period to make sure things were really in control.
I'm sure many people see the issue of running up the score differently. I'm not saying my point of view is right, I'm simply sharing it.
In my opinion, this is absolutely ridiculous and demonstrates incredibly poor judgement and sportsmanship on the part of the team as a whole, and the coaches in particular. How about you set aside your 100 point club awards and spend a little more time focusing on a team sportsmanship award.
We're all familiar with the examples and excuses that might be coming.....'the other coach told me not to let up' or 'you have to make 5 passes before you can shot' BS. Be serious. Better yet, be adult.
From one coach to another. Grow up. Show some class and character.
Let the tradition of Benilde be something else.....the kids and the school are a great place.
21-0 Win - CONGRATS BENILDE
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northern_guy
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so what is the solution? you seem to feel very strongly about this game yet offer no solutions? miss the net intentionally? turn around when you are on a break away? not saying i have any ideas...but you did not offer any either. these kind of games should not be on the schedule. and cooper sounds more like an "A" school....i don't care about enrollment size.
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tonkafan77
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Congrats Benilde and Coach Pauly. Just at a time when everyone was feeling bad for your team and how you sportsmanship has been turning Around, you do this. This score proves nothing more than their attempt to get their players atop the point leader board. Selfish and unclassy, just as the Red Knights were earlier in the season before the Jablonski incident occurred.
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HShockeywatcher
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The score was 15-0 as reported by both FTP and LPH.
Even if you were right on the score, beating Tech 16-0, Holy Angels 15-2 and Spring Lake Park 150 are okay, but this is wrong? Breck also beat a team 16-0 the other night. Where are your discussions about classlessness on those games?
These topics come up every season. There are two general opinions:
1. If you're on the losing end, it sucks to have the other team give up. Play other lines if you want, but don't stop trying to score.
2. This is bad and shows classlessness in everyone involved. But...they have no solution.
Years ago when Holy Angels was better they would beat conference teams by similar scores (are still) consistently. There were reports that 1st liners didn't see the ice the 3rd period and the lower lines still scored.
Like northern_guy says, you have a lot of complaints, as many do, but no solutions. There are basketball examples of this all the time but the articles also don't suggest solutions. In football, you can just run the ball and not pass, but you can still score with your back up RB. Hockey and basketball don't have that option.
If they put a forward in net and switch up the offense and defense, keep the top players on the bench, and implement a 10 pass rule, is it then okay to score?
What are the rules on forfeiting? If the game is really "out of hand" and the losing team doesn't want to play anymore, they can simply forfeit, right?
Even if you were right on the score, beating Tech 16-0, Holy Angels 15-2 and Spring Lake Park 150 are okay, but this is wrong? Breck also beat a team 16-0 the other night. Where are your discussions about classlessness on those games?
These topics come up every season. There are two general opinions:
1. If you're on the losing end, it sucks to have the other team give up. Play other lines if you want, but don't stop trying to score.
2. This is bad and shows classlessness in everyone involved. But...they have no solution.
Years ago when Holy Angels was better they would beat conference teams by similar scores (are still) consistently. There were reports that 1st liners didn't see the ice the 3rd period and the lower lines still scored.
Like northern_guy says, you have a lot of complaints, as many do, but no solutions. There are basketball examples of this all the time but the articles also don't suggest solutions. In football, you can just run the ball and not pass, but you can still score with your back up RB. Hockey and basketball don't have that option.
If they put a forward in net and switch up the offense and defense, keep the top players on the bench, and implement a 10 pass rule, is it then okay to score?
What are the rules on forfeiting? If the game is really "out of hand" and the losing team doesn't want to play anymore, they can simply forfeit, right?
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MNHockeyFan
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backspin, now that you've offered your criticism it's time to recommend what you would do. Some options:
a. No shots on net after scoring 10 goals
b. Practice penalty kill the entire game
c. Cross red line and dump - cannot enter offensive zone
d. Play 3rd and 4th lines only
e. Play with no goalie
f. Play with no sticks
g. Keep sticks but right-handed shots play left-handed and left-handed shots play right-handed
h. Take off skates and play boot hockey
-- OR --
Show the other team some respect by playing your normal game.
a. No shots on net after scoring 10 goals
b. Practice penalty kill the entire game
c. Cross red line and dump - cannot enter offensive zone
d. Play 3rd and 4th lines only
e. Play with no goalie
f. Play with no sticks
g. Keep sticks but right-handed shots play left-handed and left-handed shots play right-handed
h. Take off skates and play boot hockey
-- OR --
Show the other team some respect by playing your normal game.
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The Enlightened One
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Well actually about Holy Angels I would say you are wrong. I took a look at their game against Chaska this week. The final score was 11-0. They were up 8-0 after the first period! Benilde was up 8-0 after the first period last night! Holy Angels went on to score 2 goals in the 2nd and 1 in the third. Compare that to what Benilde did.HShockeywatcher wrote:The score was 15-0 as reported by both FTP and LPH.
Even if you were right on the score, beating Tech 16-0, Holy Angels 15-2 and Spring Lake Park 150 are okay, but this is wrong? Breck also beat a team 16-0 the other night. Where are your discussions about classlessness on those games?
These topics come up every season. There are two general opinions:
1. If you're on the losing end, it sucks to have the other team give up. Play other lines if you want, but don't stop trying to score.
2. This is bad and shows classlessness in everyone involved. But...they have no solution.
Years ago when Holy Angels was better they would beat conference teams by similar scores (are still) consistently. There were reports that 1st liners didn't see the ice the 3rd period and the lower lines still scored.
Like northern_guy says, you have a lot of complaints, as many do, but no solutions. There are basketball examples of this all the time but the articles also don't suggest solutions. In football, you can just run the ball and not pass, but you can still score with your back up RB. Hockey and basketball don't have that option.
If they put a forward in net and switch up the offense and defense, keep the top players on the bench, and implement a 10 pass rule, is it then okay to score?
What are the rules on forfeiting? If the game is really "out of hand" and the losing team doesn't want to play anymore, they can simply forfeit, right?
If the leaders of the school and the conference can't find a solution to let BSM play and independent schedule they should be fired. This happens every year, and with the emphasis that BSM places on hockey, will continue to happen. Why would it be so hard to let them play in the league with Tonka, Edina and the other teams? That is a small conference, not much travel and great games would happen.
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for4checker
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tough call
Most athletes at one point take a thumping like this, the main thing that it does is create animosity 
towards the team(s) that are still having success. And at some point creates rivalries. Not sure what the history is of these two teams.
I saw the score and was more curious then my mind went what the "he double tooth picks" are they doing playing a team they have no reason skating against.
We all know that some of these kids have been scoring goals all of their careers, tough to still not have that "knack" all of a sudden.
They could have played their 3 and 4 lines put defense to forwards and vice versa, still not a good way as coaches know who the players are.
towards the team(s) that are still having success. And at some point creates rivalries. Not sure what the history is of these two teams. I saw the score and was more curious then my mind went what the "he double tooth picks" are they doing playing a team they have no reason skating against.
We all know that some of these kids have been scoring goals all of their careers, tough to still not have that "knack" all of a sudden.
They could have played their 3 and 4 lines put defense to forwards and vice versa, still not a good way as coaches know who the players are.
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HShockeywatcher
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hockey4ever
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Several years ago my son was playing a AAA game in a tournament against a team that may have been the best in the country at that age. The score was about 5-0 after 3-4 minutes and maybe 10-0 after 1. The final score was something like 14 or 15 - 0. It was obvious the other team and coach knew they were playing a team that wasn't anywhere near their ability, so they backed off and continued to play bit didn't play to embaress us more than the score already was. Had they continued to play as they were capable they may have scored 30 goals. But they didn't.
I thought the other team showed a lot of class by not purposely trying to run the score up more than it already was. It can be done if you try.
I thought the other team showed a lot of class by not purposely trying to run the score up more than it already was. It can be done if you try.
Absolutely...you are then focusing on improving your squad...not padding stats.HShockeywatcher wrote:So if the 3rd and 4th liners are the ones scoring it's okay?The Enlightened One wrote:The whole respect deal is OK but I think that a smart coach would look at this as a chance to get his 3 and 4th lines broken in.