2011-12 KRACH RANKINGS - FINAL - Updated 02/26

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Updated 01/07 AM

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Updated 01/07 AM:

No Score Reported for These Games:
ghshockeyfan wrote:Bold Red are the scores actually missing vs those known but just not updated yet.

Note that none of the scores/games listed below will be in the KRACH or QRF rankings until these are updated on MN Scores.

Other scores could be missing from MN Scores and/or HUB at this point as sometimes placeholders were not entered for tourney TBDs, etc. So, this is the time of year that games get missed as far as entry.

If the record for your team looks odd - chances are it had a game that was missed, has a game on the list below, or it played a non-MN team that doesn't count in KRACH.
Fri, January 6, 2012
St. Paul Blades vs. Minnehaha
Hutchinson vs. Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato

Orono 1 vs. Rogers 2

Thu, January 5, 2012
Irondale 9 vs. St. Louis Park 1
Mound-Westonka vs. Holy Family Catholic/Waconia

Wed, December 28, 2011
Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato vs. Waseca
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Updated 01/07 NOON

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Updated 01/07 NOON:

No Score Reported for These Games:
ghshockeyfan wrote:Bold Red are the scores actually missing vs those known but just not updated yet.

Note that none of the scores/games listed below will be in the KRACH or QRF rankings until these are updated on MN Scores.

Other scores could be missing from MN Scores and/or HUB at this point as sometimes placeholders were not entered for tourney TBDs, etc. So, this is the time of year that games get missed as far as entry.

If the record for your team looks odd - chances are it had a game that was missed, has a game on the list below, or it played a non-MN team that doesn't count in KRACH.
Fri, January 6, 2012
St. Paul Blades vs. Minnehaha
Hutchinson vs. Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato


Thu, January 5, 2012
Mound-Westonka vs. Holy Family Catholic/Waconia

Wed, December 28, 2011
Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato vs. Waseca
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Updated 01/08

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No Score Reported for These Games:

Sat, January 7, 2012
Fairmont vs. Windom Area
Eagan vs. Bloomington Kennedy

Fri, January 6, 2012
Hutchinson vs. Litchfield/Dassel-Cokato
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No Score Reported for These Games:

Sat, January 7, 2012
Fairmont 8 vs. Windom Area 1 - not updated yet
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Updated 01/10 - No Update

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No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE
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Updated 01/11 AM

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No Score Reported for These Games:

Tue, January 10, 2012
Spring Lk Pk/St. Anth Vill vs. St. Francis/North Branch
St. Paul Blades vs. Holy Family Catholic/Waconia
Woodbury vs. Cretin-Derham Hall
Rochester John Marshall vs. Rochester Mayo
South St. Paul 9 vs. Tartan 0
East Ridge vs. Stillwater Area
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Stillwater 8
East Ridge 2
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northfield 4 - holy angels 1 (not a 1 to 1 tie as reported on mn-scores)
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hockeywild7 wrote:Stillwater 8
East Ridge 2
nfldraider wrote:northfield 4 - holy angels 1 (not a 1 to 1 tie as reported on mn-scores)
THANKS! And note that the Bloomington Jefferson/Eagan score was inverted when KRACH ran this AM. This is being corrected now along with an update for the scores that are now in.
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No Score Reported for These Games:

Tue, January 10, 2012
St. Paul Blades vs. Holy Family Catholic/Waconia
Rochester John Marshall vs. Rochester Mayo
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Moose Lake Area

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It was brought to my attention today that Moose Lake Area should be in Section 7A and not in 8AA.

The MSHSL has updated their “Competitive Sections” online document to reflect the Moose Lake co-op as a Section 7A team:
http://mshsl.org/mshsl/competitiveSecti ... tivity=460

Apparently an early season version had Moose Lake also listed as an 8AA team with the addition of another school to the co-op.

I will make the update tonight based on this information and confirmation. Sorry for any confusion this has caused.
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Updated 01/13 AM

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No Score Reported for These Games:

Thur, January 12, 2012
Chaska/Chanhassen vs. Holy Angels
Hutchinson vs. Holy Family Catholic/Waconia
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I believe the ranking today is the first time this season that the KRACH top 20 contains the LPH top 20 (or vice-versa) - just in different order - for both classes. It makes sense that this is in better alignment as we have enough data now for both to formulate a pretty good opinion of rankings:
CLASS AA:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA.htm
-or-
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_AA_20120113.htm
CLASS A:
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A.htm
-or-
http://www.bgoski.com/KRACH_A_20120113.htm

Congrats to the Simley & Henry Sibley teams for breaking into the LPH top-20 in Class A just recently. They both belong there according to KRACH, QRF, and me (IMHO) from the games I've watched this season.

Henry Sibley has the 10th most difficult schedule in Class A and so their record can be deceiving. This is often why you see teams with approximately .500 or lower records ranked in KRACH Class A top-20 - as it accounts for SOS differences quite well and this is an especially important consideration when ranking Class A teams that play in the metro and have tougher schedules for their class on average unless they have intentionally decreased their SOS through very targeted scheduling of weaker opponents.

It's really easy for human rankers to get caught up in record/wins/losses and not fully consider SOS. I was guilty of this years ago as a LPH ranker and even had some very spirited discussions on this forum once I realized my errors and how they applied to the ranking of the metro Class A team I was coaching at the time with a terribly difficult SOS relative to other Class A teams in the state. I believe that human/LPH-like rankings for Class A slots 10-20 is the hardest to sort-out for this reason - and especially 15-20.
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Updated 01/14 AM

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No Score Reported for These Games:

Fri, January 13, 2012
White Bear Lake 2 vs. East Ridge 2
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Updated 01/14 NOON

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No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE
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Updated 01/15 AM

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No Score Reported for These Games:

Sat, January 14, 2012
Morris/Benson Area vs. Windom Area
Brainerd/Little Falls 2 vs. International Falls 5
Warroad 7 vs. Proctor/Hermantown 0
Woodbury 0 vs. Stillwater Area 3
St. Paul United 3 vs. Minneapolis 2
Mankato West vs. Owatonna
Roseville vs. Cretin-Derham Hall
Hastings vs. Mounds View
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Roseville- Cretin Derham Hall

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Roseville 4 Cretin Derham Hall 0
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Re: Roseville- Cretin Derham Hall

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ron123 wrote:Roseville 4 Cretin Derham Hall 0
THANKS!
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No Score Reported for These Games:

Sat, January 14, 2012
Morris/Benson Area vs. Windom Area
Hastings vs. Mounds View
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Updated 01/16 AM

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No Score Reported for These Games:

NONE
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Updated 01/18 AM

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No Score Reported for These Games:

Tue, January 17, 2012
Morris/Benson Area vs. LPGE/WDC
Champlin Park vs. Anoka
North Wright County vs. Rogers
Mound-Westonka vs. Hutchinson
Rochester John Marshall vs. River Falls
Roseville vs. Park of Cottage Grove
Superior vs. Moose Lake Area
Mahtomedi vs. South St. Paul
Henry Sibley vs. North St. Paul
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NWC 9 Rogers 1
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Other scores from the Star Tribune paper:

Champlin Park 3, Anoka 5
Mound-Westonka 3, Hutchinson 6
Roseville 3, Park of Cottage Grove 1
Mahtomedi 0, South St. Paul 7
Henry Sibley 3, North St. Paul 2
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woogieboogiewoogie wrote:NWC 9 Rogers 1
MNHockeyFan wrote:Other scores from the Star Tribune paper:

Champlin Park 3, Anoka 5
Mound-Westonka 3, Hutchinson 6
Roseville 3, Park of Cottage Grove 1
Mahtomedi 0, South St. Paul 7
Henry Sibley 3, North St. Paul 2
THANKS!
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Updated 01/21 AM

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No Score Reported for These Games:

Thu, January 19, 2012
Austin vs. Owatonna
Holy Angels vs. New Prague
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