Section 3A

Gino87 · Post by **Gino87** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:16 am

What do you rank the teams as of this point 3A scout?

Chalk_Talk · Post by **Chalk_Talk** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:48 am

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:Scores From Section 3A
St Peter 7 Redwood Valley 2
Waseca 4 Fairmont 1

Conflicting reports on the Luverne vs Worthington Score:
Follow the puck Luverne 6 Worthington 1
Hockey Hub Luverne 5 Worthington 1

Either way looks like Luverne continues to struggle maybe there kids and fans should quit talking about how great they and their youth program is on this board and worry about fixing their game.

Thought they learned last year I guess not.... Other note Windom handled St Peter on Saturday... St Peter dominated Redwood tonight... Redwood gave both Luverne and Marshall a run for their money.... I think Windom might be the 4 seed as we move forward...

just some thoughts

Just a side note to your new #4 seed..They have tied Worthington and only beat them by two the second time giving up 6 goals.

Just a thought!

Observer33 · Post by **Observer33** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:13 pm

These are not my rankings, but more who has the best chance to win the section.

Hutch - Battle tested in the Wright County Conference, will pay off come playoffs

New Ulm

Luverne

Marshall

I don't think anyone else has a chance to come out of the section.

Chalk_Talk · Post by **Chalk_Talk** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:23 pm

These are the pagstat rankings as of 1-21.

3A 1 HUTCHINSON 8 8 0 49 63 14.53
2 NEW ULM 9 10 0 95 76 14.47
3 LUVERNE 13 3 1 108 39 13.64
4 MARSHALL_ 11 5 1 66 55 12.89
5 LITCHFIELD 5 11 0 51 76 12.46
6 WINDOM 8 6 1 67 62 11.28
7 REDWOOD VALLEY 1 17 0 46 109 8.35
8 FAIRMONT 5 9 0 39 110 7.52
9 WORTHINGTON 2 12 1 34 78 6.56

new2coachin · Post by **new2coachin** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:30 pm

Chalk_Talk wrote:These are the pagstat rankings as of 1-21.

3A 1 HUTCHINSON 8 8 0 49 63 14.53
2 NEW ULM 9 10 0 95 76 14.47
3 LUVERNE 13 3 1 108 39 13.64
4 MARSHALL_ 11 5 1 66 55 12.89
5 LITCHFIELD 5 11 0 51 76 12.46
6 WINDOM 8 6 1 67 62 11.28
7 REDWOOD VALLEY 1 17 0 46 109 8.35
8 FAIRMONT 5 9 0 39 110 7.52
9 WORTHINGTON 2 12 1 34 78 6.56

01/27/2012 QRF Rankings:
Marshall 27th
Luverne T30th
Hutch T38th
New Ulm 40th
Windom 52nd
Litch 65th
Fairmont 72nd
Worthington 78th
Redwood Valley 82nd

01/27/12 Follow the Puck 3A Rankings:
1. Luverne
2. New Ulm
3. Hutch
4. Marshall
5. Litch
6. Windom
7. Worthington
8. Fairmont
9. Redwood Valley

Not saying, just saying

Next week will tell us alot.

Observer33 · Post by **Observer33** » Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:04 pm

QRF and rankings don't matter right now. If Luverne played A more challenging schedule, their record would look different. This is not a knock onLuverne, they are an improved team, but still a work in progress. Everyone knows section 3A is the place to be for a run t the X. Schools are praying to be placed in 3A when the MSHSL realigns. No disrespect intended, still fun hockey to watch. I like New Ulm or Hutch.

Bettman's Bender · Post by **Bettman's Bender** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:12 am

I let my leprechaun out of my fuzzy pink prison cell and he told me that Windom was going to be a 4 seed and Luverne was going to the X.

wake up people.

Section 3A HockeyScout · Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:58 am

Bettman's Bender wrote:I let my leprechaun out of my fuzzy pink prison cell and he told me that Windom was going to be a 4 seed and Luverne was going to the X.

wake up people.

Nice to see bender back on the board!

Section 3A Scores from (1/27/12)
Orono Beats Hutch 8-3
Mound Westonka beats LDC 6-2
New Ulm Area beats Chaska 6-2 .... Brody Peterson 5 goals kid is the best player by far in this Section.

As for Windom they did almost beat your Tigers twice... They are going to beat Luverne on Tuesday ... I think a 4 seed is not out of the question

Gretzky9 · Post by **Gretzky9** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:04 pm

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:
Bettman's Bender wrote:I let my leprechaun out of my fuzzy pink prison cell and he told me that Windom was going to be a 4 seed and Luverne was going to the X.

wake up people.
Nice to see bender back on the board!

Section 3A Scores from (1/27/12)
Orono Beats Hutch 8-3
Mound Westonka beats LDC 6-2
New Ulm Area beats Chaska 6-2 .... Brody Peterson 5 goals kid is the best player by far in this Section.

As for Windom they did almost beat your Tigers twice... They are going to beat Luverne on Tuesday ... I think a 4 seed is not out of the question

Please define best player. Best scorer/offensive player.....no doubt. Best overall player...no. Not even best overall player on team maybe. Banal can score and is really good defensively. Good topic. Please share your definition.

Cujo · Post by **Cujo** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 12:27 pm

I see Hutch plays in Le Sueur today. Im expecting a pretty close game because the bulldogs are not a very bad team at all. Its also Hutchs second game in as many days. Hard to do that sometimes. IF Hutch did lose it wouldnt change my mind on where they sit in the section at all. Itll be a tough one considering they dont really have a defined goal scorer and Amsden is a very good goalie! Im expecting a close game, maybe 3-2 or 4-3. Could go either way. I would rather see them win because if they dont the whole town of Windom will be on here saying they're better then Hutch!! Thad be a mess. I agree Bettman some people need to wake up!

Peterson is deffinatley the best player in the section. Sure he's not the best defensive player but he scores a lot of goals, which is what most of the teams in the section lack. Obviousy Banal is going to be better defensively because he plays D! Its his job to be good playing that way. Id still say Cowger is the best defender in the section.

Gretzky9 · Post by **Gretzky9** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:21 pm

Cujo wrote:I see Hutch plays in Le Sueur today. Im expecting a pretty close game because the bulldogs are not a very bad team at all. Its also Hutchs second game in as many days. Hard to do that sometimes. IF Hutch did lose it wouldnt change my mind on where they sit in the section at all. Itll be a tough one considering they dont really have a defined goal scorer and Amsden is a very good goalie! Im expecting a close game, maybe 3-2 or 4-3. Could go either way. I would rather see them win because if they dont the whole town of Windom will be on here saying they're better then Hutch!! Thad be a mess. I agree Bettman some people need to wake up!

Peterson is deffinatley the best player in the section. Sure he's not the best defensive player but he scores a lot of goals, which is what most of the teams in the section lack. Obviousy Banal is going to be better defensively because he plays D! Its his job to be good playing that way. Id still say Cowger is the best defender in the section.

Nice compliment to LS/SP Cujo.....you could have said "they don't suck as bad as they usually do"...ha ha. Actually, I have seen them once and thought they looked pretty good....as good as any team in 3A, but that was only one game. I had heard they lost to Windom and thought that was a head scratcher. Talked to a friend who saw the game and seems to see more games from both teams. Said Windom capitalized on LS/SP falling asleep for about 5 minutes during the second. Said LS/SP looked to be playing un-inspired and/or took Windom for granted WAY too much (Windom has a few kids that are good enough to bite you). Can't believe I am actually about to say this but I think I will be in LS twice within the next week. Will drive down to watch the Hutch game and follow that up with the NU game on Tuesday. Should be interesting to see what happens.
Back to Peterson....by my definition he is the best offensive player in the section and the MVP of the section.....I am not saying he is the best all around player. Want to wait to see Marshall, Hutch, and Luverne to confirm...but from what I have seen personally I like Banal for best two way player.

feller · Post by **feller** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:22 pm

Peterson is the best player by far. Banal does score a lot of goals, but defensively is not that great. That is part of NU's problem, they give up too many goals and that happens when your defense is deep in the zone trying to score. Yes he is a very good scoring defenseman, but I disagree that he is very good defensively. Average maybe.

Gretzky9 · Post by **Gretzky9** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:31 pm

feller wrote:Peterson is the best player by far. Banal does score a lot of goals, but defensively is not that great. That is part of NU's problem, they give up too many goals and that happens when your defense is deep in the zone trying to score. Yes he is a very good scoring defenseman, but I disagree that he is very good defensively. Average maybe.

Have seen NU play twice so my sample size isn't very big, but have talked to several who have seen them play a lot. Look at Banal's offensive output for a defenseman....off the charts. He is a very good skater...maybe the best in the section. He clearly is asked to generate offense. However, in the two games I saw he did a nice job on the back-end. Great- no...but nice. Peterson does NOTHING defensively. So, I go back to what I had said before. Best 2-WAY player versus all offense.

Cujo · Post by **Cujo** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:24 pm

Ive only seen NU Play four times this year(Hutch, Litch, Marhall, and last night against Chaska).. New Ulm is not a very good defensive team. They are probably going to let up a few goals every game and I think they know that. But in order to win they have beat teams down in the offensive zone and thats where that first line comes in. They dont play the best D but they dont spend a lot of time in there D zone to begin with. That line is out there to score and by what I saw last night they did a good job of it. Thats just my opinion, most are going to be different. And like I said, most of the top teams lack a goal scorer and thats something New Ulm brings to the table. They are going to have to prove themselves next week against Marshall and Litch.

We can argue about this all day but id personally like to get back to the rest of the section. Maybe some thoughts on other teams/players. Also Gretzky did you say you were going to the LS/Hutch game? If so id be nice to have some updates during the game and inside thought.

feller · Post by **feller** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:27 pm

Gretsky9, nice overall take, I only disagreed with the comment that Banal was "very good defensively". Good, maybe, not very good.

"Peterson does NOTHING defensively". Agree 100%!! NOTHING. I guess you could say he played like 99 did, on one end of the ice. Often he doesn't even attempt to hustle back to appear to help out of D.

He does have great hands, speed and wonderful wrist shot and very good slap shot.
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Duster99 · Post by **Duster99** » Sat Jan 28, 2012 6:50 pm

I just went through the hockey hub to check out the rest of this section...particularly luverne, and i really can not bring myself to belive that this team can beat any two of the big 3 come section time. They play too weak of a schedule all year long for it to be good for them. If you look at who they play(fairmontx2, windomx2, worthingtonx2, dodge countyx2, north branch, mankato east....etc) there numbers look good because of the poor poor talent level those schools have, and when you look at the decent teams they have played like owatonna, wilmar, princeton and marshall, they have not faired well at all being out shot and out played with the exception of the one win against marshall. They need to come into sections playing way above the level they are at right now to hope to make any sort of noise in this section. With that being said this is still New Ulms section to lose.. they play a much tougher schedule and have faired decent against most of the teams. They do need to find another scoring option besides brody peterson however or they will be in big trouble later on in the year.

Gretzky9 · Post by **Gretzky9** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:02 am

Went out with some friends tonight when I got back from Le Sueur. 3-1 Ls/SP. My impressions:
good game and very interesting. Thought Hutch was a little quicker than LS/SP but not too much. Game was pretty even...even though shots were pretty lopsided...I think about 39 to 16 or so. However, quality shots were about 8 to 3 or so LS/SP....LS/SP played a REALLY solid defensive game. From talking with a couple of people down there the MO of LS/SP is they can skate and have a few nice players...but when they play well they play good in their own zone and take advantage of opportunities to score. This was the case tonight. I saw them against Litchfield and were similar.
Not sure how much last nights game had affected Hutch but probably some. LS/SP is a good team. They are disciplined and have a bunch of decent players with a few good players and a really good goalie. Hutch could have had 70 shots....and if they were the same quality as tonight against this goalie they don't score more than the one they got...which was a fluke goal off a LS/ SP player.

Iranger33 · Post by **Iranger33** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:28 am

Gretzky9 wrote:Went out with some friends tonight when I got back from Le Sueur. 3-1 Ls/SP. My impressions:
good game and very interesting. Thought Hutch was a little quicker than LS/SP but not too much. Game was pretty even...even though shots were pretty lopsided...I think about 39 to 16 or so. However, quality shots were about 8 to 3 or so LS/SP....LS/SP played a REALLY solid defensive game. From talking with a couple of people down there the MO of LS/SP is they can skate and have a few nice players...but when they play well they play good in their own zone and take advantage of opportunities to score. This was the case tonight. I saw them against Litchfield and were similar.
Not sure how much last nights game had affected Hutch but probably some. LS/SP is a good team. They are disciplined and have a bunch of decent players with a few good players and a really good goalie. Hutch could have had 70 shots....and if they were the same quality as tonight against this goalie they don't score more than the one they got...which was a fluke goal off a LS/ SP player.

The shot total was not lopsided Hutch outshoot LSSP 24 to 17, scores keeper was counting shots that were wide and covers. LSSP outplayed Hutch, no excuses. The Bulldogs were the better team tonight and Hutch needs to figure things out if they are going to do anything in the playoffs.

Observer33 · Post by **Observer33** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 12:44 am

Wrong! Hutch did outshoot LSH by a significant margin. High end scoring chances were similar. LSH is much better this year and Amsden is solid in nets. I expected a tight game and goaltending was the sole difference today.

Section 3A HockeyScout · Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:03 am

Greetings Section 3A Followers,

Well we get another week closer to the playoffs and we are starting to see this Section is truly up for grabs.

Section 3A Rankings (1-29-12)
1. New Ulm Area (10-10-0)
2. Marshall (13-5-1)
3. Hutchinson (8-11-0)
4. LDC (5-14-0)
5. Windom (9-6-1)
6. Luverne (14-3-2)
7. Fairmont (5-11-0)
8. Redwood Valley (1-19-0)
9. Worthington (3-14-1)

Section 3A Notes
New Ulm Area- Brody Peterson is a kid who can change a game. He is the Best player in the Section.
Marshall- Big Week for the Tigers should wrap up the SWC Title on Tuesday then a HUGE Section 3A Match-up on Thursday with New Ulm Area. Both games at Home!
Hutch- The Tigers have lost 5 straight.... Dont be surprised if they lose to Litch on Tuesday.
LDC- have lost 13 straight games yet if they beat Hutch on Tuesday or New Ulm Area on Saturday they lock up a top 4 seed. Big Week for the Dragons.
Windom- The hottest team in the Section... They will beat Luverne on Tuesday and make my change look brilliant!
Luverne- Seem to have really fallen off playing a weak schedule has really hurt these guys. Not impressive.
Fairmont- Wins over Worthington,Windom and Redwood x2 should give the 7 seed.
Redwood Valley- Have played better as of late
Worthington- Much better then last year.

There you have it one guys insight!

Cujo · Post by **Cujo** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:30 pm

This week could be very interesting!! It could shake everything up or solidify teams spots come seeding time.

My Predictions:
Hutch over Litch
New Ulm over Marshall
Windom over Luverne
New Ulm over Litch.

If this all happens I suspect the seedings to come out as:
1. New Ulm
2. Hutch
3-6 Is very hard to seed these teams! Id like to here what other people think on it.
3. Marshall
4. Litch
5. Windom
6. Luverne
7. Fairmont
8. Redwood
9. Worthington
*remember these seedings are based on my predicions above, if they are all right this is how I see seedings going into playoffs.

Gino87 · Post by **Gino87** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:10 pm

What do you guys think happens if litch loses out the rest of the year and Windom and luverne win out. Cause we all know who the top 3 are

Gino87 · Post by **Gino87** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:11 pm

^ luverne or Windom winning out.*

Gino87 · Post by **Gino87** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:20 pm

^ luverne or Windom winning out.*

timcorbin21 · Post by **timcorbin21** » Sun Jan 29, 2012 7:29 pm

# 1 New Ulm's top of the list they handled litch and hutch, mysterious loss to marshall. and they've managed to play with a few better teams.

#2 Hutch's record is better than Litch and their schedual is much tougher than Luvernes

# 3 Luverne gets it with a spanking of Marshall on top of that they've been doing a better job of handling the lower end of the section except for the tie with morris. but morris isn't in the section. Luverne is still a young team.

Litch has a horrible record but if their healthy and if they've grown from the experience of the last couple of months maybe there gold at the end or the bruise colored rainbow. Maybe not.

Marshall has some wins but haven't played anyone well. I guess they dominated Fairmont. Windoms players and goalie are getting a bit better. So are Redwood and Worhington. tough year for Fairmont

Litch vs hutch for game of the week