*New State Record*

[Scouting Players]

Josh Cisar of Moose Lake Minnesota broke the state record for the most goals in a game today against North Branch. He scored 8 goals in the game today. the previous record was 7. To top his day off he now has the most points in a season for Moose Lake and still has 5 games to play. Congrats on the season and keep doing your thing.

[rainier]

Good for Josh! People can think whatever they want, but a record is a record. Time will tell if he can have an impact at the next level, but for now he is an Elite HS player.

[SportsNorthFan]

Congrats to him! It's fun watching his progress on the Hub

[rudy]

It might be a record officially, but it's far from what T.J. Oshie's great uncle did back in 1948:

Feb. 2009 news report...


By Paul Walsh
Star Tribune


Move over John Mayasich.

Your official state record for most goals in a boys high school hockey game is about to fall. And it's not even close.

Max Oshie, a star forward for the Warroad Warriors, scored 12 goals in a game on Jan. 6, 1948, as his squad defeated Thief River Falls 16-2, according to a news account of the contest.

That collection of four hat tricks easily tops what was thought to be the record of seven goals scored by Eveleth's Mayasich in a state tournament semifinal game in 1951.

Turns out, Mayasich said today, that seven was never really his highest one-game record anyway. He said he scored 11 goals in a 23-0 thumping of visiting Duluth Central in 1950. And it's a feat that he is not proud of, saying, "You should never do that against a team. It's embarrassing."

As for that and other moments of greatness, Mayasich shrugs them off. "I don't have anything, articles or anything, about records in high school," he said in a telephone interview from Eveleth.

"I don't consider them my records. I had good linemates and a good team."

Just this season, three other players scored seven in a game: Ben Hanowski of Little Falls, Michael Unzen of Moose Lake and Dan Billiar of Mankato East.

When it comes to verifying Oshie's goal barrage as the certifiable record, Ellen Giloy of the Minnesota State High School League said, "I would probably just need a copy of the clipping" from the Warroad Pioneer, adding that the MSHSL considers newspaper reports as "sound sources" for determining records.

Giloy said how the MSHSL collects records is simple. "The only way we hear about them is when people report them."

The Pioneer's coverage of Oshie's remarkable game came to the attention of startribune.com after one of his classmates read Monday's online report about this season's trio of seven-goal scorers.

In the game, played outdoors in Warroad, Oshie scored 11 of his goals against Thief River Falls netminder Ralph Engelstad. Yes, that's the same person whose name adorns the lavish hockey arena at the University of North Dakota.

While Oshie died in 2006 at age 78, his legacy lives on in the NHL. Great-nephew T.J. Oshie, a standout at Warroad in high school and North Dakota in college, plays for the St. Louis Blues.

[mulefarm]

Sounds like he's a few short?

[mitchrapp]

Turns out, Mayasich said today, that seven was never really his highest one-game record anyway. He said he scored 11 goals in a 23-0 thumping of visiting Duluth Central in 1950. And it's a feat that he is not proud of, saying, "You should never do that against a team. It's embarrassing."

Nice that he scores his 8th goal with less than 3 minutes left up 12-5, against a team they previously beat 12-2.

Why is he even on the ice? Do they only have one line??

Unbelievable

[SportsNorthFan]

I agree. Embarassing another team is not sportsmanship. But this is a new day now. Seems everybody is out for themselves, to be the best, to be at the top of the game (to see their name on the list). It kind of goes hand in hand with checking from behind. If you lose your morals (sportsmanship), there will be more illegal stunts happening on the ice. That's my opinion. There will always another hungry player waiting to to get to the top of that list.

[Scouting Players]

Turns out, Mayasich said today, that seven was never really his highest one-game record anyway. He said he scored 11 goals in a 23-0 thumping of visiting Duluth Central in 1950. And it's a feat that he is not proud of, saying, "You should never do that against a team. It's embarrassing."

Nice that he scores his 8th goal with less than 3 minutes left up 12-5, against a team they previously beat 12-2.

Why is he even on the ice? Do they only have one line??

Unbelievable

Funny you ask about having 1 line. they have a really short bench. but if it was you and you herd the previous record was 7 and you had 7 wouldnt you want that 1 more just to beat it? if i could say so myself i would love to have that record.

[starmvp]

Turns out, Mayasich said today, that seven was never really his highest one-game record anyway. He said he scored 11 goals in a 23-0 thumping of visiting Duluth Central in 1950. And it's a feat that he is not proud of, saying, "You should never do that against a team. It's embarrassing."

Nice that he scores his 8th goal with less than 3 minutes left up 12-5, against a team they previously beat 12-2.

Why is he even on the ice? Do they only have one line??

Unbelievable

Funny you ask about having 1 line. they have a really short bench. but if it was you and you herd the previous record was 7 and you had 7 wouldnt you want that 1 more just to beat it? if i could say so myself i would love to have that record.

I would love to have scored it AND worked on my spelling/grammar..

[starmvp]

Turns out, Mayasich said today, that seven was never really his highest one-game record anyway. He said he scored 11 goals in a 23-0 thumping of visiting Duluth Central in 1950. And it's a feat that he is not proud of, saying, "You should never do that against a team. It's embarrassing."

Nice that he scores his 8th goal with less than 3 minutes left up 12-5, against a team they previously beat 12-2.

Why is he even on the ice? Do they only have one line??

Unbelievable

Funny you ask about having 1 line. they have a really short bench. but if it was you and you herd the previous record was 7 and you had 7 wouldnt you want that 1 more just to beat it? if i could say so myself i would love to have that record.

And as for the short bench, this doesn't look that short: http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/stats/team_i ... ason=46241

[warriors41]

Turns out, Mayasich said today, that seven was never really his highest one-game record anyway. He said he scored 11 goals in a 23-0 thumping of visiting Duluth Central in 1950. And it's a feat that he is not proud of, saying, "You should never do that against a team. It's embarrassing."

Nice that he scores his 8th goal with less than 3 minutes left up 12-5, against a team they previously beat 12-2.

Why is he even on the ice? Do they only have one line??

Unbelievable

I think there is quite a bit of difference between 23-0 and 12-5.

Besides, how many people on this board rip on this kid for playing an easy schedule? Not that you guys are wrong but for him to make up for that he needs to put up big numbers every game. If he only goes out and scores 4 against this team scouts won't be impressed. If he scores 8 he might get a shot. If he needs to hurt some other kids feelings to get a shot to extend his hockey career and have a shot at the next level, I don't have a problem with that.

[Jackler]

Nice that he scores his 8th goal with less than 3 minutes left up 12-5, against a team they previously beat 12-2.

Why is he even on the ice? Do they only have one line??

Unbelievable

I agree. Embarassing another team is not sportsmanship. But this is a new day now. Seems everybody is out for themselves, to be the best, to be at the top of the game (to see their name on the list). It kind of goes hand in hand with checking from behind. If you lose your morals (sportsmanship), there will be more illegal stunts happening on the ice. That's my opinion. There will always another hungry player waiting to to get to the top of that list.

Justin Kloos registered his third assist (5th point of the night) with :40 seconds left in the game versus Rosemont. It made the score 13-1.
Does this bother you as well?

[keepyourheadup]

It should. I was at that game and while it was the only shift he played in the last 22 minutes there was no reason for him to be on the ice.

[almostashappy]

It should. I was at that game and while it was the only shift he played in the last 22 minutes there was no reason for him to be on the ice.

I don't think it's a good enough excuse, but it looks like LS had just killed off a penalty at 15:45. You could make a very, very weak argument that with all of the extra man-up situations being called this season that LS has good reason to practice kills with their top two lines, even with the score what it was.

Frankly, I'd be more worried about my ticket to St. Paul getting injured during garbage time by opponents who take offense at running up the score, but that's me.

[EHSHack]

It should. I was at that game and while it was the only shift he played in the last 22 minutes there was no reason for him to be on the ice.

You only get so many high school games. Id want to be out every shift. Sorry if the team wasnt prepared or just sucks. Thats life.

[observer]

He scored 8 goals in the game today.

Congratulations Josh! That ain't easy! Pay no attention to the scoring challenged jealous.

[almostashappy]

It should. I was at that game and while it was the only shift he played in the last 22 minutes there was no reason for him to be on the ice.

You only get so many high school games. Id want to be out every shift. Sorry if the team wasnt prepared or just sucks. Thats life.

One of the core missions of the MSHSL is. "To elevate standards of sportsmanship and to encourage the growth of responsible citizenship among
the students, member schools and their personnel."

Playing your first line in running time with the score 12-1 does little to elevate standards of sportsmanship.

Can't imagine how p.o.'ed the parents of LS's third and fourth line players must have been when they spotted Kloos back on the ice. Their kids get so little playing time as it is, what with all of the specialty team play these days.

[warriors41]

Nice that he scores his 8th goal with less than 3 minutes left up 12-5, against a team they previously beat 12-2.

Why is he even on the ice? Do they only have one line??

Unbelievable

I agree. Embarassing another team is not sportsmanship. But this is a new day now. Seems everybody is out for themselves, to be the best, to be at the top of the game (to see their name on the list). It kind of goes hand in hand with checking from behind. If you lose your morals (sportsmanship), there will be more illegal stunts happening on the ice. That's my opinion. There will always another hungry player waiting to to get to the top of that list.

Justin Kloos registered his third assist (5th point of the night) with :40 seconds left in the game versus Rosemont. It made the score 13-1.
Does this bother you as well?

Personally, I'm fine with it. But even if this offends you, this is a different circumstance from the Cisar kid. Kloos has already committed to the college program at the next level. He's earned his shot and doesn't really need to prove anything. No one truly doubts his ability as one of the states best players.

Cisar has to put up huge numbers because so many people doubt whether his success is true or not. Honestly, I'm one of those doubters. But because of that, I won't blame him for scoring 8 goals trying to shut me up. With a schedule that he has, he will either not score enough and be labeled as not good enough, or he will score too much and be labeled a jerk. Give the kid a break.

[SPUDNUT]

[quote="Scouting Players"]Josh Cisar of Moose Lake Minnesota broke the state record for the most goals in a game today against North Branch./quote]

Sounds like someone should've done some homework before making a claim like that.

[xy]

Opinions always vary on these one-sided games, and there's no easy answer apart from not scheduling them in the first place (which wasn't an option for Lakeville South-Rosemount as it was a conference game) - is it more humiliating to keep scoring, or to quite obviously quit trying to score? But to give the complete picture, if you look at the game sheet the assist on the last goal was Kloos's only point of the third period. And the player who scored the last goal didn't have a point all year before that goal and was one of the third or fourth liners mentioned above. The player who scored the 12th goal has only three points all year. You'd have to have been there, which I wasn't, to know exactly what happened, but as far as running up the score goes this doesn't really seem that bad.

[northern blueliner]

Did anyone notice who the author was for the thread "New State Record" and make the connection to comments made to the thread "Cisar Brothers"? Sounds like Cisar is tooting his own horn. My theory is....if your that damn good someone WILL find you regardless. Just saying.

[MHGr8ness]

Did anyone notice who the author was for the thread "New State Record" and make the connection to comments made to the thread "Cisar Brothers"? Sounds like Cisar is tooting his own horn. My theory is....if your that damn good someone WILL find you regardless. Just saying.

Zach is the Scouting Players one. Josh is the one who broke the record. So if it truly is him it would be him giving props to his brother.

[fivehole628]

Josh Cisar of Moose Lake Minnesota broke the state record for the most goals in a game today against North Branch. He scored 8 goals in the game today. the previous record was 7. To top his day off he now has the most points in a season for Moose Lake and still has 5 games to play. Congrats on the season and keep doing your thing.

Against North Branch? Good for him

[Defensive Zone]

It should. I was at that game and while it was the only shift he played in the last 22 minutes there was no reason for him to be on the ice.

You only get so many high school games. Id want to be out every shift. Sorry if the team wasnt prepared or just sucks. Thats life.

One of the core missions of the MSHSL is. "To elevate standards of sportsmanship and to encourage the growth of responsible citizenship among
the students, member schools and their personnel."

Playing your first line in running time with the score 12-1 does little to elevate standards of sportsmanship.

Can't imagine how p.o.'ed the parents of LS's third and fourth line players must have been when they spotted Kloos back on the ice. Their kids get so little playing time as it is, what with all of the specialty team play these days.

Typical South development of players. It’s been like that for years. No wonder players leave and go else ware.

[keepyourheadup]

Now that is quite the leap.....kid plays one shift in the third period of a blow out and that is one of the main reasons others leave the program? Not sure I can see any correlation what so ever. I'm sure for those that left they have their own reasons and every right to do so but i doubt this would be one of them.