Section 3A

[Chalk_Talk]

I was at the LDC vs Delano game on Sat. LDC gave up way TOO many breakaways. They seem to get beat in transition. Delano was quick but, the D for LDC did nothing adjust for the speed of Delano. LDC could surprise someone in playoffs, a W before the end of the season might help that cause.

[CherryPicker99]

What are the predictions for Marshall vs. LeSueur/St. Peter game tonight? I've seen Marshall play but not LeSueur/St. Peter. I think this game could play a role in the seedings. Looks like New Ulm, Hutch and Litch have played them already and Luverne ends their regular season there on Friday.

[sssample54]

they're better than marshall and probably luverne assuming they dont make too many mistakes and if amsden plays his normal game.
marshall has not been playing very often and not playing well when they do play. they need to get out of they're own zone and find a forward to score. that goalie needs all the help he can get
Litch and Hutch have been playing tougher teams down the stretch it'll be interesting to see how that works out
i wonder how much credence coaches put in non section games when seeding. Anyone know?

[CherryPicker99]

I have no idea if the coaches look at non conference games or not. Good question.

[Sheetice]

My rankings are based on what I think, not so much on records and who beat who....

1...New Ulm
2...Hutch
3...Marshall
4...Luverne
5...Litch
6...Windom
7...Fairmont
8...Worthington
9...Redwood

[CherryPicker99]

Sheetice, I think you are right on track. It will be interesting to see what the coaches decide on the 2, 3 and 4 seeds. I think those are the only seeds that will really be discussed. Like I said in a previous post...If Litch is in the top 4 something is completely wrong with seeding process and actually I'm not convinced they should be 5. It's hard to put a team that high with only 5 wins.

[notTONIGHT]

What are the predictions for Marshall vs. LeSueur/St. Peter game tonight? I've seen Marshall play but not LeSueur/St. Peter. I think this game could play a role in the seedings. Looks like New Ulm, Hutch and Litch have played them already and Luverne ends their regular season there on Friday.

I agree, I think It will be a good barometer to see where Luverne and Marshall rank going into the playoff's. Luverne Won the most recent of the 2 meetings with marshall, and seem to be a team playing better.
If the goalie Amsden shows up for LHSP both nights, it will be tough for either squad to win.

[notTONIGHT]

Sheetice, I think you are right on track. It will be interesting to see what the coaches decide on the 2, 3 and 4 seeds. I think those are the only seeds that will really be discussed. Like I said in a previous post...If Litch is in the top 4 something is completely wrong with seeding process and actually I'm not convinced they should be 5. It's hard to put a team that high with only 5 wins.

Also agree with this, there must be some consequence for scheduling a more difficult schedule, then losing every single game that you scheduled. 19 loses in a row heading into the playoff.....dohkay!

[SouthernMNHockey]

LHSP beat Marshall tonight 3 to 1 with an empty netter i believe. Marshall heavily outshot Lesuer but all were weak outside angles. And still the game could have been a wider margin if LHSP took advantage of some scrums in front of campion as well as a crossbar and a whiffed tap in.

Very interested to see how the Luverne and LSHP game goes. As for marshall they better score a lot come playoff time. Because Campion needs a lot of help basing on what im seeing lately from him.

[CherryPicker99]

Is today the day the seedings are decided? Anyone know?

[SouthernMNHockey]

Yesss seedings come out today. in the next couple hours probably

[theoldref]

Here are the official Section 3A seedings:
1. New Ulm
2. Marshall
3. Luverne
4. Hutchinson
5. Windom
6. Litchfield
7. Fairmont
8. Worthington
9. Redwood

Both Marshall and Luverne ahead of Hutchinson and Litchfield receiving the 6th seed behind Windom because of a dismal 5 win season.

[new2coachin]

Here are the official Section 3A seedings:
1. New Ulm
2. Marshall
3. Luverne
4. Hutchinson
5. Windom
6. Litchfield
7. Fairmont
8. Worthington
9. Redwood

Both Marshall and Luverne ahead of Hutchinson and Litchfield receiving the 6th seed behind Windom because of a dismal 5 win season.

Well, the coaches have spoken, hopefully see more games between the 3A teams next season so that seedings are not so muddled.

[bardown27]

even though litch only has 5 wins this season, i would LOVE to see them beat luverne in the quarter final game.

[notTONIGHT]

Here are the official Section 3A seedings:
1. New Ulm
2. Marshall
3. Luverne
4. Hutchinson
5. Windom
6. Litchfield
7. Fairmont
8. Worthington
9. Redwood

Both Marshall and Luverne ahead of Hutchinson and Litchfield receiving the 6th seed behind Windom because of a dismal 5 win season.

Well, the coaches have spoken, hopefully see more games between the 3A teams next season so that seedings are not so muddled.

I agree, If the teams in the section would play the other teams in the section, this wouldnt be so muddled.

If Litch thinks they are so untouchable, and so offended by their seed, then head to the corner of the state and beat That luverne team there.

I also think, the seedings are pretty accurate as to how they should have played out.

[computerguy]

I'm sure after litchfield drives 3 hours to play a game that they will want to do it every year. People fail to see that the reason all teams don't play each other is travel, conference games and not everyone has Jv.

[notTONIGHT]

I'm sure after litchfield drives 3 hours to play a game that they will want to do it every year. People fail to see that the reason all teams don't play each other is travel, conference games and not everyone has Jv.

Last I checked, luverne has a jv and is willing to play at hutch and litch. However there is hesitation to allow that from the teams that would be the home squad.

Windom , worthington, redwood, and fairmont do not have a jv. I understand the reluctance there.

[TheSiouxSuck]

I'm sure after litchfield drives 3 hours to play a game that they will want to do it every year. People fail to see that the reason all teams don't play each other is travel, conference games and not everyone has Jv.

Last I checked, luverne has a jv and is willing to play at hutch and litch. However there is hesitation to allow that from the teams that would be the home squad.

Windom , worthington, redwood, and fairmont do not have a jv. I understand the reluctance there.

When you have a limited number of games to schedule outside of conference, it hardly makes sense to schedule traditionally weak teams in the farm west corner of the state where neither team is going to benefit.

[MHGr8ness]

I'm sure after litchfield drives 3 hours to play a game that they will want to do it every year. People fail to see that the reason all teams don't play each other is travel, conference games and not everyone has Jv.

Last I checked, luverne has a jv and is willing to play at hutch and litch. However there is hesitation to allow that from the teams that would be the home squad.

Windom , worthington, redwood, and fairmont do not have a jv. I understand the reluctance there.

I agree. If people don't like it then they should do something about it. Just ONE game. Another option is to win more than 5 games....

[computerguy]

Got it that Luverne has Jv. But you all are saying that hutch, litchfield, and Nu should play everyone in 3a. So is your argument that they should all play Luverne? If so its still a 3 hour drive and we still have a lot of conference games to play that are 45 min at best.

[notTONIGHT]

Got it that Luverne has Jv. But you all are saying that hutch, litchfield, and Nu should play everyone in 3a. So is your argument that they should all play Luverne? If so its still a 3 hour drive and we still have a lot of conference games to play that are 45 min at best.

Point is, that the seedings would be more clear if the "big 3" would allow section opponents willing to travel to their barn, to open it up and let em play. It's no big deal for teams way outstate to travel hours to get a game. They do it all the time... However, no respect will be given until it is earned, if luverne gets beat by litch, all conversations are off.

[SouthernMNHockey]

okay guys im eager to hear some predictions

[Chalk_Talk]

Got it that Luverne has Jv. But you all are saying that hutch, litchfield, and Nu should play everyone in 3a. So is your argument that they should all play Luverne? If so its still a 3 hour drive and we still have a lot of conference games to play that are 45 min at best.

Computerguy, if you have been following this thread we have been down this road already, look back a few pages. In 2,3 or 4 years Luverne might not want to schedule some of these teams. I understand there are teams closer to home to play, but litch might want to work in more section games so coaches can seed teams to the best of their opinion. You can thank the MSHSL for putting these teams in the same section. I understand that cost is also an issue. I bet that about 75% of the teams in the state play a non-section, non-conference game that is over 3 hrs of drive time. You make it sound like Litchfield must not have played in youth tournaments that were out of town? Those aren't cheap to play in, for the assn. or the parents! But now that the kids are in high school people are going to use that as an excuse to why they don't play more section games. Its called fundraising. Instead schedule Holy Family twice and get beat by a combined 17-1?

Litchfield played 6 section games this year
2 vs Hutch, section and conference team
2 vs Nu
1 vs Redwood
1 vs Marshall

How can the coaches in the section properly seed this team with so few sectin games?

[theoldref]

You might as well give Luverne a shot at playing these teams since they have a JV and since they are willing to drive all the way to Litchfield, Hutchinson, and New Ulm and not requiring those 3 schools to make the drive to Luverne. It's not like it's a contract that can never be broken, if they beat the crap out of Luverne 3 years in a row they can just drop them from their schedule. Litchfield could easily drop the one game it plays against Morris/Benson for Luverne or drop one of the two games it plays against St. Peter!!! God forbid they drop the one game they play against Wadena of Prairie Centre!!!! Which are teams that aren't all that better or aren't better than a team like Luverne at all. The big 3 don't have to schedule every other team from the section, but they could schedule at least one other than Marshall to try and make the seeding process a little easier.

[TheSiouxSuck]

So when the "big 3" are making their schedules they're supposed to try and predict when these weaker teams will have enough players to 1) field a JV and 2) produce a game that isnt a laugher? Having the only argument in favor of these games being so that the coaches can rank the teams more easily should be the absolute last factor going through teams minds when they are making their schedule.