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Gretzky.... This was a weird year in the section, but I've got to point out Your No. 2 lost to No. 3 twice, by a combined 9-1 score. at the same time that same no. 3 lost twice to both 5 and 6.Gretzky9 wrote:My final rankings for Section 1A based on how teams played during the year and playoffs:
1. Lourdes
2. Northfield
3. New Prague
4. LS/SP
5. Red Wing
6. Albert Lea
7. West
8. Faribault
9. La Crescent
10. Waseca
11. Austin
12. East
Lourdes was just the class of the field when it came right down to it again.
Completely agree with you dad on the year that was. I saw every team at least once except RW and Waseca. 2-7 were all up and down this year with the exception of LS/SP which, according to the Hub, had only one loss all year by more than one goal (not couting ENG's) and the fact they continued their strong play through the Northfield game where they had a few great chances to tie things at the end of the game (and lost on a fluke goal) put them where they were at. If Amsden returns they have enough there (the Braun kid, #17 forgot his name, and one short forward with skill who was hurt a bit this year) and from what I was told might be able to put together a team that will be ok (not like this year's team) but better than the past years.hockeydad wrote:Gretzky.... This was a weird year in the section, but I've got to point out Your No. 2 lost to No. 3 twice, by a combined 9-1 score. at the same time that same no. 3 lost twice to both 5 and 6.Gretzky9 wrote:My final rankings for Section 1A based on how teams played during the year and playoffs:
1. Lourdes
2. Northfield
3. New Prague
4. LS/SP
5. Red Wing
6. Albert Lea
7. West
8. Faribault
9. La Crescent
10. Waseca
11. Austin
12. East
Lourdes was just the class of the field when it came right down to it again.
Teams 2 through 7 were so even, you could make a case for almost any order. I give props to Northfield for coming together at the end of the season, but I'm not sure they were the second-best team in the section. They were just the team that made it to the finals and lost. I'd say Red Wing was No. 2, although again, they lost twice to Northfield, which again points out what a strange year it's been.
Can't wait for next year. And Congrats to Lourdes - represent Section 1 well.
Unless there are consequences for the same players taking bonehead penalties, that stat will not change for NP!Gretzky9 wrote:Completely agree with you dad on the year that was. I saw every team at least once except RW and Waseca. 2-7 were all up and down this year with the exception of LS/SP which, according to the Hub, had only one loss all year by more than one goal (not couting ENG's) and the fact they continued their strong play through the Northfield game where they had a few great chances to tie things at the end of the game (and lost on a fluke goal) put them where they were at. If Amsden returns they have enough there (the Braun kid, #17 forgot his name, and one short forward with skill who was hurt a bit this year) and from what I was told might be able to put together a team that will be ok (not like this year's team) but better than the past years.hockeydad wrote:Gretzky.... This was a weird year in the section, but I've got to point out Your No. 2 lost to No. 3 twice, by a combined 9-1 score. at the same time that same no. 3 lost twice to both 5 and 6.Gretzky9 wrote:My final rankings for Section 1A based on how teams played during the year and playoffs:
1. Lourdes
2. Northfield
3. New Prague
4. LS/SP
5. Red Wing
6. Albert Lea
7. West
8. Faribault
9. La Crescent
10. Waseca
11. Austin
12. East
Lourdes was just the class of the field when it came right down to it again.
Teams 2 through 7 were so even, you could make a case for almost any order. I give props to Northfield for coming together at the end of the season, but I'm not sure they were the second-best team in the section. They were just the team that made it to the finals and lost. I'd say Red Wing was No. 2, although again, they lost twice to Northfield, which again points out what a strange year it's been.
Can't wait for next year. And Congrats to Lourdes - represent Section 1 well.
The hard part was to order NP, Northfield, and RW based on the way they played and beat each other. What I looked at was overall record and how they faired in playoffs. Northfield gets the edge because of a little better record but also reaching the finals. They should be good again next year if everyone stays and should be around 2 or 3. They have a few of their top-end guys back. NP was too penalty prone to be consistent and dissappointed in playoffs but still favor slightly over RW. They are young and will be solid next year both at forward and D, but the loss of Morris will hurt a lot. A comment from a previous poster about NP only getting better. I agree with the population expansion from the metro. Something to keep an eye on is how much does the population expansion change NP, RW, and Northfield because there is always the danger of being bumped to AA.
That slots RW at 5. They should continue to slot in somewhere in the 3-4 range. Even though Albert Lea struggled down the stretch they did split with West and because of their run in the playoffs they get the slot above West.
West was just a young team that really lacked strong Senior leadership and skill to do much of anything other than what they did. Not sure what they have coming up to supplement the sophs but they should be in pretty good shape over the next couple years to get to their normal slot of 3-5.
Faribault had some wins closing the year and clearly is better than the balance of the section. I know Austin was seeded ahead of Waseca but based on their record and doing nothing to close the season they fall behind Waseca who follows La Crescent. LC has a few nice players but absolutely no depth.
East better hope the youth program has skill kids coming up or this program could be in trouble.
I think there's a time and place for penalties, but I personally have always liked watching New Prague play for that reason - because they take the aggressive (and some ill-advised) penalties! It made for a much more interesting game at times. It brought more of a "college-esque" tenacity to the games in moments. New Prague and Albert Lea were always the gritty teams and I loved seeing them play for that exact reason.urban iceman wrote:Unless there are consequences for the same players taking bonehead penalties, that stat will not change for NP!Gretzky9 wrote:Completely agree with you dad on the year that was. I saw every team at least once except RW and Waseca. 2-7 were all up and down this year with the exception of LS/SP which, according to the Hub, had only one loss all year by more than one goal (not couting ENG's) and the fact they continued their strong play through the Northfield game where they had a few great chances to tie things at the end of the game (and lost on a fluke goal) put them where they were at. If Amsden returns they have enough there (the Braun kid, #17 forgot his name, and one short forward with skill who was hurt a bit this year) and from what I was told might be able to put together a team that will be ok (not like this year's team) but better than the past years.hockeydad wrote: Gretzky.... This was a weird year in the section, but I've got to point out Your No. 2 lost to No. 3 twice, by a combined 9-1 score. at the same time that same no. 3 lost twice to both 5 and 6.
Teams 2 through 7 were so even, you could make a case for almost any order. I give props to Northfield for coming together at the end of the season, but I'm not sure they were the second-best team in the section. They were just the team that made it to the finals and lost. I'd say Red Wing was No. 2, although again, they lost twice to Northfield, which again points out what a strange year it's been.
Can't wait for next year. And Congrats to Lourdes - represent Section 1 well.
The hard part was to order NP, Northfield, and RW based on the way they played and beat each other. What I looked at was overall record and how they faired in playoffs. Northfield gets the edge because of a little better record but also reaching the finals. They should be good again next year if everyone stays and should be around 2 or 3. They have a few of their top-end guys back. NP was too penalty prone to be consistent and dissappointed in playoffs but still favor slightly over RW. They are young and will be solid next year both at forward and D, but the loss of Morris will hurt a lot. A comment from a previous poster about NP only getting better. I agree with the population expansion from the metro. Something to keep an eye on is how much does the population expansion change NP, RW, and Northfield because there is always the danger of being bumped to AA.
That slots RW at 5. They should continue to slot in somewhere in the 3-4 range. Even though Albert Lea struggled down the stretch they did split with West and because of their run in the playoffs they get the slot above West.
West was just a young team that really lacked strong Senior leadership and skill to do much of anything other than what they did. Not sure what they have coming up to supplement the sophs but they should be in pretty good shape over the next couple years to get to their normal slot of 3-5.
Faribault had some wins closing the year and clearly is better than the balance of the section. I know Austin was seeded ahead of Waseca but based on their record and doing nothing to close the season they fall behind Waseca who follows La Crescent. LC has a few nice players but absolutely no depth.
East better hope the youth program has skill kids coming up or this program could be in trouble.
I agree, but with the latest rule changes the ref's don't care about that and are now dictating outcome of games!!Roy01 wrote:I think there's a time and place for penalties, but I personally have always liked watching New Prague play for that reason - because they take the aggressive (and some ill-advised) penalties! It made for a much more interesting game at times. It brought more of a "college-esque" tenacity to the games in moments. New Prague and Albert Lea were always the gritty teams and I loved seeing them play for that exact reason.urban iceman wrote:Unless there are consequences for the same players taking bonehead penalties, that stat will not change for NP!Gretzky9 wrote: Completely agree with you dad on the year that was. I saw every team at least once except RW and Waseca. 2-7 were all up and down this year with the exception of LS/SP which, according to the Hub, had only one loss all year by more than one goal (not couting ENG's) and the fact they continued their strong play through the Northfield game where they had a few great chances to tie things at the end of the game (and lost on a fluke goal) put them where they were at. If Amsden returns they have enough there (the Braun kid, #17 forgot his name, and one short forward with skill who was hurt a bit this year) and from what I was told might be able to put together a team that will be ok (not like this year's team) but better than the past years.
The hard part was to order NP, Northfield, and RW based on the way they played and beat each other. What I looked at was overall record and how they faired in playoffs. Northfield gets the edge because of a little better record but also reaching the finals. They should be good again next year if everyone stays and should be around 2 or 3. They have a few of their top-end guys back. NP was too penalty prone to be consistent and dissappointed in playoffs but still favor slightly over RW. They are young and will be solid next year both at forward and D, but the loss of Morris will hurt a lot. A comment from a previous poster about NP only getting better. I agree with the population expansion from the metro. Something to keep an eye on is how much does the population expansion change NP, RW, and Northfield because there is always the danger of being bumped to AA.
That slots RW at 5. They should continue to slot in somewhere in the 3-4 range. Even though Albert Lea struggled down the stretch they did split with West and because of their run in the playoffs they get the slot above West.
West was just a young team that really lacked strong Senior leadership and skill to do much of anything other than what they did. Not sure what they have coming up to supplement the sophs but they should be in pretty good shape over the next couple years to get to their normal slot of 3-5.
Faribault had some wins closing the year and clearly is better than the balance of the section. I know Austin was seeded ahead of Waseca but based on their record and doing nothing to close the season they fall behind Waseca who follows La Crescent. LC has a few nice players but absolutely no depth.
East better hope the youth program has skill kids coming up or this program could be in trouble.
In some regard, I agree yes. It definitely waters down some (many) games and clearly hurts the teams that bring a physical presence to the ice.urban iceman wrote:I agree, but with the latest rule changes the ref's don't care about that and are now dictating outcome of games!!Roy01 wrote:I think there's a time and place for penalties, but I personally have always liked watching New Prague play for that reason - because they take the aggressive (and some ill-advised) penalties! It made for a much more interesting game at times. It brought more of a "college-esque" tenacity to the games in moments. New Prague and Albert Lea were always the gritty teams and I loved seeing them play for that exact reason.urban iceman wrote:Unless there are consequences for the same players taking bonehead penalties, that stat will not change for NP!
Call it what you want but I personally have always liked teams that win with skill versus indimidation/goon hockey. There IS a difference between taking a player out of the play and taking the body for the sake of punishment. NP has always been that way and that style is taught from early on. I think smarter people would look to see the direction the game in the US is going and adapt. We shall see.urban iceman wrote:I agree, but with the latest rule changes the ref's don't care about that and are now dictating outcome of games!!Roy01 wrote:I think there's a time and place for penalties, but I personally have always liked watching New Prague play for that reason - because they take the aggressive (and some ill-advised) penalties! It made for a much more interesting game at times. It brought more of a "college-esque" tenacity to the games in moments. New Prague and Albert Lea were always the gritty teams and I loved seeing them play for that exact reason.urban iceman wrote:Unless there are consequences for the same players taking bonehead penalties, that stat will not change for NP!