Poll - Section 1AA Section Finals - Lakeville North vs South

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 8:59 am

for what its worth, the first two that north gave up were soft, the next two were anything but.

min090 · Post by **min090** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:00 am

nahc wrote:Goaltending was why North went to State last year and did so well. Goaltending was the reason North lost the game last night plain and simple. Three of the first 4 goals were VERY soft and put North in a deep hole. Realisitcally, it should have been 1-1 at the end of 2 and that makes it a totally differant game. South skated very well and very much deserved the win. South should represent Section 1AA very well at the X next week. Again, congratulations to Lakeville South!!

It's funny that a parent of one of the non-goalie players would post this...

The loss was a total team effort. Poor forechecking, back checking and especially poor play by the defensemen all contributed to the loss. it certainly shouldn't be laid on the goalie...

RickyTicky · Post by **RickyTicky** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:05 am

I agree with Stopper.. While I admit the 1st goal was soft I don't think you can blame the loss on the goaltender when you get outshot 42-13. Plain and simple it looked like South came ready to play and North was on their heels all game. You would think with Souths great power play that one of the game plans for North was to stay out of the box but that was exactly what they didn't do and it gave South all the momentum.

South's record: 20-8.. seems so unlike a Lakeville team to go into the tourny with anything but a .500 record

xy · Post by xy » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:22 am

A few things about the game:

- the shots were not 42-13 - that is a misprint. I believe it was actually something like 28-13 for the entire game. South dominated the first period, but they certainly didn't have 28 shots in that period alone. However, except for a stretch in the second period South did entirely control the play, to the point that you really wondered how North could have beaten them earlier this year.
- Freemark might have been the best guy on the ice last night (his not being named one of the three stars named by the Hockey Hub doesn't do wonders for their credibility). He was on the ice every time Winiecki was, and was the main reason Winiecki didn't do anything.
- North's coaches ought to be ashamed of the way their players ran around trying to maim South players during the last ten minutes.

DmanDad1980 · Post by **DmanDad1980** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:14 am

South looked good last night, and looked as if they were prepared well for the game and wanted it more early when the game was in doubt still...

First period South outshot North 14-3, but if you were there, you saw that North had two doorstep opportunities on shots 2 & 3, that if not for the South goalie, that might have evened up the score at 2 going into period 2... Both were incredible saves...

Others have brought this up, but North killed themselves with the penalities. With as disciplined as the South PP looked last night with puck control, puck protection and movement, one would think that the North game plan was to play aggressively, but do not take bad penalities... that did not happen for North... the 5 minute boarding call at end of 2nd was a killer... but they were also taking some pretty nasty runs at the South kids... No wonder Weber took Kloos out of the lineup for the last 10 minutes... Smart move...

South's team speed was very impressive. First time I saw them play. If they get good Dcore & goalie play, they will represent 1AA nicely...

Gopher Blog · Post by **Gopher Blog** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:26 am

Congrats to Lakeville South. It has to feel good to get over the hump this year and make the big show.

PantherPride · Post by **PantherPride** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:30 am

xy wrote:A few things about the game:

- the shots were not 42-13 - that is a misprint. I believe it was actually something like 28-13 for the entire game. South dominated the first period, but they certainly didn't have 28 shots in that period alone. However, except for a stretch in the second period South did entirely control the play, to the point that you really wondered how North could have beaten them earlier this year.
- Freemark might have been the best guy on the ice last night (his not being named one of the three stars named by the Hockey Hub doesn't do wonders for their credibility). He was on the ice every time Winiecki was, and was the main reason Winiecki didn't do anything.
- North's coaches ought to be ashamed of the way their players ran around trying to maim South players during the last ten minutes.

North got beat plain and simple. Congrats - Great Kids on both sides.
The shots were 32-16 on the scoreboard at the end of the game.
Without question...Freemark was definitely the best one on the ice. #24 for North was very frustrated.
Good Luck to the South Boys. Enjoy the moment.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:57 am

South was the better teamlast night. This was a very difficult game for all the kids and especially the seniors. This is the last class that played together prior to the split and there are close friends on both sides. I'm a little curious as to why when south clearly ran up the score on Winona and there was a huge out cry about sportsmanship..rightfully so...last night with souths top guys sitting the last ten minutes north spent the remainder of the game trying to just pummel south. As in the first example, I don't blame the kids, they were clearly frustrated, but isn't this a coachable moment just the same. How about you take a time out and explain to your team that maybe this isn't the way you want it to end but gooning it up won't change the outcome. Really just felt there was no reason for it.

nahc · Post by **nahc** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:32 pm

Gooning it up? I am not sure there were single roughing penalties handed out to North last night during the last 10 minutes of the game. If that was thet case, I believe the South penalty box would have been empty........which wasn't the case. Zero boarding, head hits, or checking from behind penalties were called in the last 10 minutes of the game which I would call "gooning it up"....and believe me, the refs sure would have called them. The refs did not "lose control" of the game and there wasn't anything that marred an outstanding game played by Lakeville South. The better team by far won last night!!!!!

easton18 · Post by **easton18** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 2:41 pm

nahc wrote:Gooning it up? I am not sure there were single roughing penalties handed out to North last night during the last 10 minutes of the game. If that was thet case, I believe the South penalty box would have been empty........which wasn't the case. Zero boarding, head hits, or checking from behind penalties were called in the last 10 minutes of the game which I would call "gooning it up"....and believe me, the refs sure would have called them. The refs did not "lose control" of the game and there wasn't anything that marred an outstanding game played by Lakeville South. The better team by far won last night!!!!!

I agree, the refs did a fantastic job of keeping control of the game. The only thing that wasn't in control was the Lakeville North student section. Very distasteful and disrespectful, especially after the boarding call in the second when the South player was laying on the ice. Anybody else at the game think that too, or am I the only one it struck a nerve with?

RickyTicky · Post by **RickyTicky** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:16 pm

Easton I would agree with you.. I couldn't make out exactly what they were chanting but North's student section was chanting some sort of insults back and forth with South's student section when they were down 7-1 late in the 3rd. I guess some of it is expected due to intracity rivalary but you'd expect a little more respect and humility when your team is getting dominated and the game is all but over. Kids will be kids I guess..

I stayed until the end and I wouldn't say North was "gooning it up". They were a little more physical and took out some frusteration but nothing I would consider reckless or even illegal and obviously the refs thought so too. Not much at all happened after it reached 7-1, a lot of dumbing and chasing. Both teams realized the game was over and just played it out.

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:17 pm

I thought both student sections were fine, Both were sizable and cheered for their team. I've seen much worse from parents than this year than either of these student sections.

easton18 · Post by **easton18** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:20 pm

RickyTicky wrote:Easton I would agree with you.. I couldn't make out exactly what they were chanting but North's student section was chanting some sort of insults back and forth with South's student section when they were down 7-1 late in the 3rd. I guess some of it is expected due to intracity rivalary but you'd expect a little more respect and humility when your team is getting dominated and the game is all but over. Kids will be kids I guess..

I stayed until the end and I wouldn't say North was "gooning it up". They were a little more physical and took out some frusteration but nothing I would consider reckless or even illegal and obviously the refs thought so too. Not much at all happened after it reached 7-1, a lot of dumbing and chasing. Both teams realized the game was over and just played it out.

Yeah I was sitting about 10 rows up behind them and there were quite a few chants involving expletives being thrown around. Perhaps times have changed, but back when I was in high school (fairly recently) swearing coming from the student section wasn't tolerated at all. But this is by no means the worst I have seen, goldy has a very good point, I've seen parents way worse than anything that happened last night.

RickyTicky · Post by **RickyTicky** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:25 pm

Anybody know when they seed the teams and make the Tourament schedule? Is it tonight or tomorrow?

clutterbuck22 · Post by **clutterbuck22** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 4:32 pm

RickyTicky wrote:Anybody know when they seed the teams and make the Tourament schedule? Is it tonight or tomorrow?

Tomorrow.

keepyourheadup · Post by **keepyourheadup** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 5:24 pm

No beef with the officiating, South spent that last 10 minutes mostly just dumping the puck and not really ever controlling it. I just felt that , again understandably frustrated, that North spent a lot of time finishing checks and chipping guys after they had gotten rid of the puck. They seemed intent to do that instead of trying to score. I figured the refs could of called 2 or 3 pairs of coincidentals during that time frame but they just let them go. There were a couple of big runs taken where the south player was able to duck them and nothing happened. Not really that big of deal but I felt the North staff could have handled it better.

CRS · Post by **CRS** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 9:06 pm

Haven't had the opportunity to see LS play. Could they make some noise in the tournament? Possible upset?

Master Recruiter · Post by **Master Recruiter** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:41 pm

Very excited to get a chance to see Kloos and the cougars play at the Xcel

mn man · Post by **mn man** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:42 pm

CRS wrote:Haven't had the opportunity to see LS play. Could they make some noise in the tournament? Possible upset?

No

Master Recruiter · Post by **Master Recruiter** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 10:45 pm

CRS wrote:Haven't had the opportunity to see LS play. Could they make some noise in the tournament? Possible upset?

They have played Eagan tough twice this year according to Hockey Hub

Wouldn't consider them the favorites, but definitely could make some noise

Jimbo99 · Post by **Jimbo99** » Fri Mar 02, 2012 11:30 pm

goldy313 wrote:I thought both student sections were fine, Both were sizable and cheered for their team. I've seen much worse from parents than this year than either of these student sections.

North chants included ripping on their own goalie. It was tacky.
Freemark was the best player on the ice last night.
None of North's players stood out last night.
The best team won.

RickyTicky · Post by **RickyTicky** » Sat Mar 03, 2012 12:13 am

Great post mn man.. compelling and rich

They will be an underdog but are definitely capable of making some noise. They have played the top teams in the state tight but just not able to pull out a victory. Anything can happen at state..

greasy mitts · Post by **greasy mitts** » Sun Mar 04, 2012 3:07 pm

RickyTicky wrote:Great post mn man.. compelling and rich

They will be an underdog but are definitely capable of making some noise. They have played the top teams in the state tight but just not able to pull out a victory. Anything can happen at state..

What are you? A south parent? East will win easy 6-1

hockeydog62 · Post by **hockeydog62** » Mon Mar 05, 2012 3:48 pm

Been following this forum for several years since my kid graduated from Lakeville hockey - never joined or commented, but after reading some comments on several Lakeville threads, felt compelled to do so.

The Game: I have followed both teams this season - South was prepared and stepped it up; North was not prepared and took a step down. North's loss was a team loss - for nahc to blame the goalie is a typical comment from a non-goalie parent whose son must have played this game, and not well (just assuming he is a parent). South has had some rough games this year as well - luckily for them this was not one of them. North has played much, much better than this, especially this goalie - unluckily for them, this was not one of them. #10 on North looked like the only defensive player who came to play - the rest of the defense looked like deer in headlights. North's offense was shut down by South's defense, who stepped it up this game. South's goalie had a very good game, although the shots were not that tough or numerous - but he did the job. North took some unnecessary penalties, and got away with a few as well. Weber was smart in taking Kloos out the final 10 min.

North's goalie situation: For what ever reason, North's coaches rotated the heck out of 3 goalies this year. For any goalie to play this year for North after the year that Lindgren had, kudos to them. I'm sure they took a lot of flack from classmates, parents of teammates, and obviously outsiders (i.e., members of this forum) that they will never measure up. I don't blame Lindgren's family for putting the younger goalie somewhere else - would've been tough for that kid to live up to his brother's rep. The best goalie I saw out there this year was the goalie in net on Thursday, #1. He played some of the tougher teams (East, Wayzata), and still kept his team in the game, after they pretty much hung him out to dry (he often had 30-40 shots, vs. North's offense having 10-15 shots). Yea, he let a few soft ones in this game, and I'm sure it was nerves, but a good team can compensate for that, but not the way they were playing. I will be interested in following this young man, should he choose to continue with hockey after high school.

North's Coaches: With all the drama around the firing of Schmitz, hiring of the new guys, and having this all go down just a mere few weeks before the season started, North's season turned out pretty well, aside from their last game. These coaches had very little time to learn how these players played, their styles, who worked well with who, much less their names. They know their stuff. Did they make some mistakes? Of course. Doing chew and cussing out players is not a good thing (if this is true), and hopefully they learned from this. But this is no reason to turn around and kick them out. They have been involved with the LHA's younger teams, and will hopefully use their connections to help the senior players move on with their hockey careers, should they choose to do so. The previous coaches did neither - they were nice guys, but to stay competitive in hockey, the new coaches have the right idea.

The kids on both these teams have been lifelong friends, and any meeting between these 2 teams is always a good one. The better team won this year, and if South plays like they did Thursday and them some, they should give East a run for the money.

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